NYC installs microphones in the street to detect gun crime.

[mickybrighteyes]

lmao.... to detect gun crime.
I wonder what else it'll detect.

[Cthulhu 2020]

In other words, gun control doesn't work?

The point is to reduce crime. If you thought it was to completely eliminate it you were egregiously misled in that assumption. If the goal of laws designed to reduce crime had the goal of completely eliminating it, we may as well not have laws against murder, cause those clearly don't work.

[WskyDK]

Privacy issues aside (unrelated to a crime) I'm ok with this system. Used something similar in the military to detect mortar flight paths and drop locs, and a man-portable one to detect snipers.

[fengosa]

Privacy issues aside (unrelated to a crime) I'm ok with this system. Used something similar in the military to detect mortar flight paths and drop locs, and a man-portable one to detect snipers.

It really doesn't matter if it's a public area. There's no reasonable expectation of privacy there.

[WskyDK]

It really doesn't matter if it's a public area. There's no reasonable expectation of privacy there.

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[Poopymonster]

The point is to reduce crime. If you thought it was to completely eliminate it you were egregiously misled in that assumption. If the goal of laws designed to reduce crime had the goal of completely eliminating it, we may as well not have laws against murder, cause those clearly don't work.

You're confusing things Batman. One side wants to do things to prevent the crime from happening. The other side wants the crime to happen and then have Rambo's middle aged cousin shoot the person.

[Theinquisition]

Australia and places like Hong Kong would proibably disagree with that. But then again it could also because people there aren't as sociopathic.

So theres no gun crime in either city?

Tell me, who did that muslim nutjob manage to get a shotgun?

[prwraith]

If you are that scared to live in your own county you should be ashamed of your country. When I read "freedom" the only thing I see is people scared shitless of their own.

Scared no? Because I have protection. Being stripped of protection would make anyone scared and rightly so.

[Conspicuous Cultist]

Scared no? Because I have protection. Being stripped of protection would make anyone scared and rightly so.

I personally can't buy into the pro-gun arguments. I'm perfectly fine with just admitting it's for my own selfish motivation because it's a hobby (Archery, eh, we won't get bow control any time soon but I empathize with guys with guns) and that the individual should be able to do whatever they want as long as it doesn't interject on peoples' liberties (and no, firing in a firing range doesn't do that).

I'm responsible and if I'm not and kill someone then I get life or execution, simple as is. That's good enough.

I'm also willing to admit my life is boring and nothing bad will probably not happen to me in particular.

[Dispraise]

Wouldn't the solution to this problem simply be to have the system not record ?

Yeah, I see no reason for the system to record other than the express purpose of invading privacy.

[Kellhound]

"In an effort to increase the safety of all Americans, everyone in the US will be required to have a video camera, microphone, and GPS device implanted in them and hooked to a central FBI computer. As the data will only be accesses with a court order, there are no Constitutional issues."

[Slicer299]

This has been used in cities like Washington D.C. for years. Nothing new, invasive or ground breaking. You have no expectation of privacy in public. Cameras, microphones, all irrelevant as privacy does not exist in public.

[Kellhound]

This has been used in cities like Washington D.C. for years. Nothing new, invasive or ground breaking. You have no expectation of privacy in public. Cameras, microphones, all irrelevant as privacy does not exist in public.

Yet the police try to prevent people from filming them in public...

[Wells]

Yet the police try to prevent people from filming them in public...

And are then routinely told to go fuck themselves by courts.

[Kellhound]

And are then routinely told to go fuck themselves by courts.

After getting to destroy the evidence of their misconduct, so its a minor slap on the hand at best.

[dextersmith]

Big Brother will be used for everything but.

[Cosmic Janitor]

So theres no gun crime in either city?

Tell me, who did that muslim nutjob manage to get a shotgun?

Because anecdotal evidence is just that? If one bastards wants to get a gun an do a crime he will get one, doesn't mean the thousands of other cases on gun related crimes are happening. No one buys a gun for 20 grand on the black market to rob a liquor store for 200 bucks.

[IIamaKing]

You're confusing things Batman. One side wants to do things to prevent the crime from happening. The other side wants the crime to happen and then have Rambo's middle aged cousin shoot the person.

Will never happen with out crushing oppression, precrime or thought police. You cannot stop things before they happen.

[Daethz]

Couldn't vehicle backfire easily be detected as a gunshot?
Or even dropping something heavy?

Crime in america is at its lowest levels, in history. I fail to see why we need to ramp up our anti-crime ability's more than ever when crime is lower than ever.
Plus these microphones should be illegal to place within so much distance of anything residential and businesses should have to inform people there is a microphone in their establishment, not just in small righting, try multiple massive signs and a specific shared icon/sign so everyone easily recognizes it.
Spying on everyone is not an acceptable alternative to crime.
Like i said, id rather have 1 9/11 every ten years instead of the NSA, and I would be fine dieing in one of them, mainly because the evil person would be the terrorist, not our own government, protector.

[Sunseeker]

Good, bad or a direct violation of your 4th amendment?

How is it a violation of the 4th amendment? Jesus do you just pull out random amendments and ask if a law violated them?

You have no reasonable expectation of privacy in public, that's why it is called "public" as opposed to "private". Anything you say or do can be recorded, retained, monitored or transmitted.

I think the bigger question is if the devices are even useful! With a 75% inaccuracy rating that sounds like a terrible device that is going to be running the police on more wild-goose chases than less.