"It is a little late, after you are both undressed, to say: "I don’t want this.""

[Renedric]

That's not late.

You don't get it. She says that if you go that far with someone that will fuck you no matter what, you can't say no. It just won't work and there's not much you can do other than physically push the other person away (which in most cases won't work for obvious physical reasons). Not all men can switch their primal instincts to procreate off at will. You have to have the mental fortitude as a woman to decide whether you'll go that far before you actually do. It is exactly why she's saying drinking equivalently with men is not about "equal rights" it's about avoiding stupid situations where a "no, i've changed my mind" won't make everything go away. Let's face it, when you add alcohol to the equation, all reasons get thrown out the window.

[DarkBlade6]

Well that happened to me once.. we were kissing, slowly getting undressed and ready to do it and then she took her bra off ....... she had like fucking big washer on her tits. I said to myself, Oh God, "I don’t want this."

[Lady Dragonheart]

While I know what BDSM is, it's not really for me. But hey, to each their own I guess. I just hope that if I ever meet a girl that's into it, she will tell me beforehand and not at the last minute.

If you met outside the premise, for most girls, it's hard to admit. I can see most girls waiting until the last minute to mention it, but also be fine with basic vanilla sex if it turns out that they are not into it. It's more like something that you hope for.

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It's pretty safe to say you should know each other pretty well first. There's a lot of trust that goes into this stuff.

For me, most definitely. Especially with choking, as I have a PTSD trigger that can happen from it.

[Deleted]

If she says stop, and you don't, you're a rapist. Period.

What if you're already achieving penetration when she says it?

lets face it, in current society women get away with so much bullshit such as unsubstantiated rape claims.

And often when they make such false accusations, they get away with it scott free, doesnt matter than some man's life got ruined.

I thought you wanted equality? Seems to me women want only the benefits but none of the burdens and downsides that come with that.

[THE Bigzoman]

It's not a shitty thing to do.

It is a shitty thing to do.

Shes well within her right to do it, but it's still a shitty thing to do.

[Dextroden]

Is it rape when after it's all gone down, she stares up at the ceiling and says, for thexample first and only time, "I don't want this"?

[buck008]

Do we need this exact same thread every three or four days? I doubt anyone's opinion has changed, and it's all the same people saying the same things.

[judgementofantonidas]

For me, most definitely. Especially with choking, as I have a PTSD trigger that can happen from it.

you were deployed when?

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What if you're already achieving penetration when she says it?

lets face it, in current society women get away with so much bullshit such as unsubstantiated rape claims.

And often when they make such false accusations, they get away with it scott free, doesnt matter than some man's life got ruined.

I thought you wanted equality? Seems to me women want only the benefits but none of the burdens and downsides that come with that.

you can have been at it for long enough that you are one pump from done and if she says she doesn't want you to thrust that one more time it is rape if you do. it is completely unfair but it is what society has come to.

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you were deployed when?

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you can have been at it for long enough that you are one pump from done and if she says she doesn't want you to thrust that one more time it is rape if you do. it is completely unfair but it is what society has come to.

Thats my point. Its utter bullshit. Women cry they want equality but really, they dont, they just want more priviliges and power.

because if their was equality, women wouldnt be getting away with all the bullshit they do now.

Right now, in that scenario, it would be his word vs hers, and GL proving that it wasnt rape.
She just ruined an innocent person's life forever.

And lets not even get started on the "oh silly geezers, men cant get raped"

[Lady Dragonheart]

you were deployed when?

You can get PTSD from a lot more than being in the military.

[Ilikegreenfire]

you were deployed when?

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you can have been at it for long enough that you are one pump from done and if she says she doesn't want you to thrust that one more time it is rape if you do. it is completely unfair but it is what society has come to.

I don't know if she was ever deployed but you can get PTSD from any traumatic experience not just combat.

[buck008]

My favorite part of this debate is when someone points out that statistically false accusations of rape only make up about 6% of cases. The response is an immediate, violent, "Of course it happens more than that!!!111!" even when there is not a shred of evidence to suggest that. These same people laugh when someone suggests real rape happens more often than is reported. Both positions make assumptions based on very little, and neither actually give a shit about what really happens. But it'll go back and forth for another 50 pages.

[Dextroden]

My favorite part of this debate is when someone points out that statistically false accusations of rape only make up about 6% of cases. The response is an immediate, violent, "Of course it happens more than that!!!111!" even when there is not a shred of evidence to suggest that. These same people laugh when someone suggests real rape happens more often than is reported. Both positions make assumptions based on very little, and neither actually give a shit about what really happens. But it'll go back and forth for another 50 pages.

My favorite part is when people claim they are against rape in all cases, but immediately down play rape against males when people ask about that.

Or say something like "If he had an erection, it isn't rape."

[Egregious]

Yes and we should be allowed to vilify women who do this. However, we're not allowed to. You try to do that and you get called all sorts of names and then get sued by some feminazi like that guy in Canada.

Yep, definitely agree.

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Your insurance company may have some opinions, that would constitute - Victim blaming - You should get on that.

lol 10/10, sir.

[buck008]

My favorite part is when people claim they are against rape in all cases, but immediately down play rape against males when people ask about that.

Or say something like "If he had an erection, it isn't rape."

Yea, hypocrisy is fun.

[Egregious]

No, it isn't. You can change your mind, not feel like it anymore. Doesn't make someone a bitch.

Please see the excellent and humorous comparison about "inviting your friend over for dinner then telling them to fuck off" post in the thread.

You're a bitch there, and you're a bitch here. Nothing is wrong with being a bitch other than that people may not like you. You can't have your cake and eat it too.

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That's not a very good allegory. Eating food and getting a d*ck stuck in you are two very different things.

It doesn't matter if it's perfectly lined up. The point is that you enter into a social contract with a person. You say or imply that you will do an activity and later renege on your contract, however you want to look at it. These aren't legal contracts mind you, just social ones. So it's not illegal, nor should it be, to change your mind but you can't blame people for seeing you as a bit of a bitch for doing so.

[THE Bigzoman]

No, it isn't. You can change your mind, not feel like it anymore. Doesn't make someone a bitch.

You're right.

It makes you a indecisive bitch.

[Egregious]

That's not being a hero. That's YOU looking for justification to play out racist fantasies of killing muslims.

If only the two were mutually exclusive. You're saying that, just because someone is a bigot, they cannot also do something heroic?

[Lady Dragonheart]

You're right.

It makes you a indecisive bitch.

I think that would matter more on her reasoning than anything. As there are a plethora of reasons to stop having sex.

[buck008]

You're right.

It makes you a indecisive bitch.

It doesn't make her a bitch. I understand the frustration involved when someone changes their mind at the last second, but that doesn't make them anything. You are more than welcome to vent that frustration and call names, etc. It says very little about the kind of person she is.