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    Ukraine Prime Minister Arseniy Yatsenyuk to resign

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36010511

    The Ukrainian Prime Minister, Arseniy Yatsenyuk, has announced he will resign next week, blaming politicians' failure to enact "real changes".
    Mr Yatsenyuk, in office since former pro-Russian President Viktor Yanukovych was ousted in February 2014, said he would inform parliament on Tuesday.
    The current President, Petro Poroshenko, asked him to quit in February, saying he had lost support.
    His government has been accused of inaction and corruption.

    The International Monetary Fund (IMF) has threatened to withhold aid money if it does not carry out reforms.

    Parliamentary Speaker Volodymyr Groysman has been nominated by Mr Poroshenko's party to replace Mr Yatsenyuk.
    Announcing his resignation on Twitter, Mr Yatsenyuk called for the formation of a new government immediately to prevent "destabilization of [the] executive branch during a war".

    The government in Kiev is signed up to an uneasy truce with pro-Russian rebels in two of Ukraine's eastern regions, with frequent ceasefire violations reported.

    Russia itself annexed the southern region of Crimea two years ago after a controversial referendum on self-determination.
    "As of today," Mr Yatsenyuk tweeted on Sunday, "my goals are broader: new electoral law, Constitutional reform, Judicial reform, Ukraine's membership in the EU and NATO."

    Ukraine's EU ambitions suffered a setback on 6 April when voters in the Netherlands roundly rejected a landmark EU trade deal with the former Soviet state in a referendum.

    Dutch referendum a difficult result for EU and Ukraine
    Mr Yatsenyuk came to power promising to tackle corruption and implement economic reforms but has increasingly become the focus of accusations of corruption, even though no concrete evidence was produced.

    Western governments have expressed concern over the resignation of reform-minded figures from the government.
    President Poroshenko himself came under scrutiny this week after leaked documents suggested he had set up an offshore company as a tax haven using Panamanian legal firm Mossack Fonseca.

    He said he had done nothing wrong and Ukrainian prosecution officials said there was no evidence of a crime but there were calls for his impeachment.

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    Bring back that Putin puppet they had before the maybe the blood pressure of certain induviduals in here would drop.
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    In other countries like Canada the population has chosen to believe in hope, peace and tolerance. This we can see from the election of the Honourable Justin Trudeau who stood against the politics of hate and divisiveness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibito View Post
    Bring back that Putin puppet they had before the maybe the blood pressure of certain induviduals in here would drop.
    how low would it drop?

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    If only there were a 1500 page thread or two to discuss Ukraine topics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skroe View Post
    If only there were a 1500 page thread or two to discuss Ukraine topics.
    Does every topic involving the USA share the same thread?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kangodo View Post
    Ooh my, does he really plan on becoming a EU-member?
    It's not possible, due to the size of Ukraine's population the current EU members cannot all simply vote yes/no to admittance. A number of them are law bound to hold a public referendum on admitting a new member of that size, which would undoubtedly fail for at least one of them resulting in a rejection for Ukraine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caervek View Post
    Does every topic involving the USA share the same thread?

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    It's not possible, due to the size of Ukraine's population the current EU members cannot all simply vote yes/no to admittance. A number of them are law bound to hold a public referendum on admitting a new member of that size, which would undoubtedly fail for at least one of them resulting in a rejection for Ukraine.
    Why did you mention USA?
    Quote Originally Posted by Tennisace View Post
    In other countries like Canada the population has chosen to believe in hope, peace and tolerance. This we can see from the election of the Honourable Justin Trudeau who stood against the politics of hate and divisiveness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by caervek View Post
    A number of them are law bound to hold a public referendum on admitting a new member of that size, which would undoubtedly fail for at least one of them resulting in a rejection for Ukraine.
    what is taken into account: territory or population size?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kangodo View Post
    Ooh my, does he really plan on becoming a EU-member?
    The only reason people even voted for that treaty was after numerous promises that this wasn't about them joining the EU.

    We really do not want his corrupt broke country in the EU.
    It's more likely countries are going to kicked out.

    "We" are not you. I support Ukraine's fight against an invading fascist state.

    And the netherlands are pretty dispensable - if you want out by all means leave. You are hardly big players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibito View Post
    Why did you mention USA?
    Because it's a comparison (and actually a self-explanatory one so I'm not sure why you're asking :S), the person I quoted seemed to think that every topic that involves Ukraine should all go into the same thread, but doesn't appear to complain the same in any of the topics involving the USA.


    Quote Originally Posted by Keeponrage View Post
    what is taken into account: territory or population size?
    Population size, I.E in the case of France any country with a population greater in size than 5% of the EU population requires a public referendum in order to gain admittance. Ukraine (and also Turkey) would be blocked by this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by advanta View Post
    "We" are not you. I support Ukraine's fight against an invading fascist state.

    And the netherlands are pretty dispensable - if you want out by all means leave. You are hardly big players.
    uh?
    That is a... weird comment. Netherlands is an important player in EU's energy sector. Nevermind Benelux being a founder of the EU project from the very beginning.
    You support Ukraine in the EU? Based on what exactly? You know, without mentioning russia and USA and anything, Ukraine's political situation IS out of control. Corruption is rampant, has always been rampant, and it's most likely not going to change anytime soon. Sure they went through a MAJOR CHANGE and STILL, the same people are in power, change is not coming and the economy keeps on going down the drain.

    So, without being aggressive, I'm asking you, on what exactly do you support Ukraine's entry in the EU?

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    The whole point of Russia-Ukraine military conflict is totally stupid. Russians and Ukrainians are nearly same folks - absolutely every Ukrainian citizen speaks Russian language. What is going on for real - brothers are killing brothers, incited by malicious politicians from both sides.

    You cannot possibly claim that Putin is fascist and evil and Poroshenko, Yatsenyuk, etc. are good and noble freedom fighters; BOTH parties, involved in that collision, are corrupt the same way. USA hides behind Ukrainian revolution just the same way Russia hides behind those Donetsk and Lugansk' separatists. Obama incited the Maidan, Putin could not let this pass without consequences.


    And who's suffering? Commoners. As always.
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    and what about Poland?

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    Quote Originally Posted by advanta View Post
    "We" are not you. I support Ukraine's fight against an invading fascist state.

    And the netherlands are pretty dispensable - if you want out by all means leave. You are hardly big players.
    No, the current thing that was on the table was not for membership to the EU but for support of the EU, not the samething even if the netherlands didn't oppose it through a referendum it would be a decade off from even joining the EU, after Greece corruption surfaced and caused a crisis, countries that have a large corruption problem and aren't economically stable won't get in that easily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kangodo View Post
    A referendum to kick Poland or Greece out of the EU would probably mean a Grexit
    Poland won't be kicked out considering it's growth, neither will other Eastern European nations. Greece is far more likely the first to go if such a thing would happen what is highly unlikely since otherwise it would have happened already.

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    So, one jewish oligarch quits government of the rotten, corrupted shithole that is Ukraine and will be replaced by another soon. I fail to see how this is an important news that warrants starting a new thread. Nothing will change for an average Ukrainian, some of which (maybe even most of them) are good people. Their governments are a joke and only some of them deserve what they are getting now.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ermelloth View Post
    The whole point of Russia-Ukraine military conflict is totally stupid. Russians and Ukrainians are nearly same folks - absolutely every Ukrainian citizen speaks Russian language. What is going on for real - brothers are killing brothers, incited by malicious politicians from both sides.
    This is wrong, you know. The only official language of Ukraine is Ukrainian, and it's not really that similar to Russian, it's actually more similar to Polish. Ukrainian is a bit like old rustical Polish, it sounds like some deformed eastern countryside dialect. It's definitely a lot less refined and simpler than Polish, classic or modern, but it's also why it's pretty easy to understand, as opposed to Russian, which is completely different.

    Yes, the grand majority of Ukrainians does speak Russian, though in the west they don't speak it all that well. But it's definitely not "absolutely every Ukrainian", and they definitely are not nearly the same folks. I guess it's like saying that Fins are pretty much Swedes. Your opinion probably comes from the fact that the eastern Ukraine is inhabited, for the large part, by true Russians that just happened to be on the wrong side of the border when Ukraine seceded from USSR. Those guys are not real Ukrainians.

    Quote Originally Posted by advanta View Post
    "We" are not you. I support Ukraine's fight against an invading fascist state.
    I'm sorry to break it for you, but Ukraine is also pretty much a fascist state. They, on a national scale, glorify some of the worst criminals Europe has ever seen, scum that easily challenged SS as far as war crimes are concerned. They may not have killed as many people, but the methods they used were far worse. This alone makes them a fascist state.
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    Quote Originally Posted by caervek View Post
    Does every topic involving the USA share the same thread?
    Oh no, we could and should talk about this if course.

    I was just pointing out the fact that it would have been nice to still have one of those two 1500 page Ukraine threads to do it in......

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    Its funny a Putin supporting brit is talking about how bad it is supporting ukraine and the eu.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibito View Post
    Its funny a Putin supporting brit is talking about how bad it is supporting ukraine and the eu.
    Skroe's American, or at least it says so under his avatar

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    Quote Originally Posted by caervek View Post
    Skroe's American, or at least it says so under his avatar
    Was aimed at Djalil who is so pro putin even summerdrake seems sane at times.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tennisace View Post
    In other countries like Canada the population has chosen to believe in hope, peace and tolerance. This we can see from the election of the Honourable Justin Trudeau who stood against the politics of hate and divisiveness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibito View Post
    Was aimed at Djalil who is so pro putin even summerdrake seems sane at times.
    Why are you allowed to talk in here is beyond my understanding.

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