A different view on ISIS

[Deleted]

In this video the interviewee sheds a completely different light on the growth of ISIS. blaming it primarily on the repression of peaceful democratic movements in the region. Worth a listen:

[Sunseeker]

Okay so what? Yeah, okay suppressing democratic movements sucks....but the shit they've done? Not a fucking excuse.

[PC2]

blaming it primarily on the repression of peaceful democratic movements in the region.

The overwhelming blame and responsibility goes to each individual who decided to join and kill for ISIS.

[Deleted]

Okay so what? Yeah, okay suppressing democratic movements sucks....but the shit they've done? Not a fucking excuse.

Neither of the individuals is making excuses for ISIS, they are explaining how and why they rose to power.

Personally I'm all for drowning the leaders of ISIS in a vat of pigs blood and the leaders of the US military -industrial complex in barrels of oil next to each other.

[May90]

Am I the only one who finds it ironic that their movement is called ISIS (Isis is a Egyptian goddess), and yet they believe that women should have very few rights?

[PC2]

Neither of the individuals is making excuses for ISIS, they are explaining how and why they rose to power.

Personally I'm all for drowning the leaders of ISIS in a vat of pigs blood and the leaders of the US military -industrial complex in barrels of oil next to each other.

Drown Obama in oil? Do you not think we should drone terrorist organizations?

[Belize]

Am I the only one who finds it ironic that their movement is called ISIS (Isis is a Egyptian goddess), and yet they believe that women should have very few rights?

The U.S. seem to be one of the few that calls them ISIS.

Everywhere else I've seen is IS or ISIL.

[Radaney]

This doesn't give a different view on ISIS at all.

[Deletedaccount1]

The only reason ISIS rose to power was because of the power vacuum created by the Obama administration.

[callipygoustp]

Americans and their 15minute memory span. This situation is not new to ISIS. Since the 40s this shit has been going on.

[Belize]

The only reason ISIS rose to power was because of the power vacuum created by the Obama administration.

Thanks Obama.

[PC2]

Thanks Obama.

Which is about as convincing as,

Thanks Bush.

[Deleted]

The only reason ISIS rose to power was because of the power vacuum created by the Obama administration.

I knew it was a waste of time posting this stuff. You are confirming the stereotypical view of Americans the world has: you are only capable of communicating in over-simplified emotionally potent slogans and reduce everything to your tedious partisan politics.

[PC2]

I knew it was a waste of time posting this stuff. You are confirming the stereotypical view of Americans the world has: you are only capable of communicating in over-simplified emotionally potent slogans and reduce everything to your tedious partisan politics.

Are you not the one doing the exact opposite, blaming everything wrong on the USA or Western civ?

[Belize]

Which is about as convincing as,

Thanks Bush.

Thanks Reagan! I dunno, what he did, but he's done something I know it.

[Surfd]

Am I the only one who finds it ironic that their movement is called ISIS (Isis is a Egyptian goddess), and yet they believe that women should have very few rights?

It would only be ironic if you were intelligent enough to know the difference between a name and an acronym......add in the fact that ISIS isnt even a name they use to refer to themselves generally, but is used by other people to refer to them, and it gets even better.

[May90]

I knew it was a waste of time posting this stuff. You are confirming the stereotypical view of Americans the world has: you are only capable of communicating in over-simplified emotionally potent slogans and reduce everything to your tedious partisan politics.

And you are confirming the stereotypical view of socialists the world has: they write long passages with a lot of smart words, but fail to make even a resemblance of a point and content.

See, I can do ad hominems too!

It would only be ironic if you were intelligent enough to know the difference between a name and an acronym......

Sigh...

[Deletedaccount1]

I knew it was a waste of time posting this stuff. You are confirming the stereotypical view of Americans the world has: you are only capable of communicating in over-simplified emotionally potent slogans and reduce everything to your tedious partisan politics.

There are hundreds of reasons why ISIS particularly is the way it is but the fact is that they rose from a power vacuum as most similar organizations do. That power vacuum in Syria was caused largely by U.S. supported destabilization of the Assad government and in Iraq it was created by the withdrawal of American forces.

[Stormspark]

Am I the only one who finds it ironic that their movement is called ISIS (Isis is a Egyptian goddess), and yet they believe that women should have very few rights?

It's an English acronym made up by the US, and the US is the only country that uses it. Their actual name is in Arabic and just translates as "Islamic State". Ironically, it was founded by someone from Al-Qaeda who had been kicked out for being too militant.

[Deleted]

Borderline apologetic. Simplistic narritive. Worth a listen like a Mick Jagger solo album.