Can we get rid of the manual recruitments for Mythic Dungeons?

[ThatsOurEric]

Seriously, nothing is more of a pain in the ass than trying to get into a group.

Its especially tiring of seeing groups constantly demanding 700+ ilvls when last
I checked, the gear that NORMALLY drops is ilvl 685.

It was frustrating to deal with back in MoP with heroic scenarios, and its stupid
that Mythic Dungeons isn't just another difficulty level you can select from the
list. Normal & Heroic are there, why not Mythic?

[Belloc]

Why not just make your own group? No ilvl reqs that way.

[Kazuchika]

Sorry all I got out of this thread is "I have no friends and can't get carried so I want queues so I can force people to carry me after I become immune to kicks"

[Spiffums]

Why not just make your own group? No ilvl reqs that way.

You're supposed to put a trigger warning before you say "make your own group"....

[Nynax]

Yeah it's annoying. My mage alt @ 705 ilvl got "auto" declined 10 times before I finally landed a low ilvl group where I was top dps.

It's annoying, but thems the brakes; because it's still better than an auto lfg group where I'm almost guaranteed to be doing 30-50% of the damage....

[Natrii]

I like it honestly, I like having to actually find other players to get something done. Having to look for people rather than getting thrown in with them increase accountability and community for players.

[Okacz]

Because Mythic dungeons are on a difficulty level that does not guarantee success. LFR and HC dungeons kind of do, but Mythics are on a much higher level, and require at least decent communication and knowledge.

Basically Blizzard is avoiding the early Cata fiasco. Players who were unfortunate enough to pug the HCs in their leveling gear with 4 similar players were hitting a brick wall they couldn't overcame much too frequently. There was nothing as frustrating as progressing through Grim Batol or Lost City only to realise that your group is just not good enough for the last boss, and replacements won't help much either. This caused a mass exodus from WoW, and made Blizzard extra careful with queueable content.

Another thing is the keystone runs in Legion. The system wouldn't work if this was a queue, not in any way. Players with a keystone would be banging their heads against puggers who would just want a normal, keystoneless run - which again, leads to frustration.

[Hey There Guys its Metro]

No we can't. That's the whole point of the dungeon dificulty. Stop perpetuating this whiny casual mentality and go play the game the way it's meant to be played. This sort of whining is what has set us down this dark path in wows history.

[Obsession]

No, "back when wow was great" you had to find your own groups in trade chat. They're finally listening to the community

[Video Games]

You'd only have a point if you couldn't get 700+ mere hours after getting to 100.

[elmoe420]

Seriously, nothing is more of a pain in the ass than trying to get into a group.

Its especially tiring of seeing groups constantly demanding 700+ ilvls when last
I checked, the gear that NORMALLY drops is ilvl 685.

It was frustrating to deal with back in MoP with heroic scenarios, and its stupid
that Mythic Dungeons isn't just another difficulty level you can select from the
list. Normal & Heroic are there, why not Mythic?

Blizzard sets the expectation that when you queue for a random group (whether a dungeon or a raid) you should be able to complete that content successfully within a certain time frame with the group that matchmaking provides for you. My guess is the time they target is roughly 60 minutes for success.

When Blizzard introduced Mythic difficulty for dungeons they tuned the difficulty in such a way that they felt they could not meet this expectation. They simply chose not to set any expectation of success at all with a purely random group for this new dungeon difficulty. Hence, you cannot queue for mythic dungeons.

To explain why you see a lot of groups demanding 700+ item level for mythic dungeon it is because these people are not running the dungeons for gear. They are simply farming them for quick valor and/or the weekly event quest. Since their goal is to complete the dungeons as fast as possible they want a geared group for a "speed run". I do this myself and set the minimum requirement at 715 item level. On the week of the mythic dungeon event you are going to see a large number of these "speed run" style groups being formed.

The best advice I have for you is to create your own group and advertise that the goal is not a speed run but rather a run to gear up. Set the item level to something like 680 to help emphasize this. Your listing should attract the right kind of players interested in a similar style run.

[Natrii]

Benefits of having to use trade list, trolls got blacklisted hardcore

[Deleted]

You can literally kill heroic Archimonde right now by merely inviting people from a naked level 100 character without ever typing anything in the chat. You just have to know how to do it. And you seem to imply that you are forced to bear the supposed torture of being invited to a 5man without ever having the chance to do it on your own?

[Cracked]

Look, even when I just want fast valor on my alt, I'm gonna put a 720 requirement, because I'm not looking for people who will slow the run down. If you want to do mythic dungeons to collect gear, find likeminded groups.

[Deleted]

You can literally kill heroic Archimonde right now by merely inviting people from a naked level 100 character without ever typing anything in the chat. You just have to know how to do it. And you seem to imply that you are forced to bear the supposed torture of being invited to a 5man without ever having the chance to do it on your own?

Only for 1 more week, after that.... good luck lol.

[Ealyssa]

I have no friends
I want to be carred and not be accountable for my gameplay
I want blizzard to force other people to play with me
I am too lazy to build my own group

Is all I understand reading OP.

[orgonutil]

def not, if you dont like this probabily the comunity will be healthy without you

[dacoolist]

Manual recruitment for dungeons this tough is a good measure IMO. When some guy can pull a bunch of mobs with his bs starfall trinket, and wipe a LEGIT 725 avg ilvl group no matter how you spin it.. something's off. The boss's aren't even hard, it's the damn trash being chain pulled (at least as a healer). And this is coming from a group that's usually really good.. I can't even imagine like 660 groups when the content first came out.. That shit would be near impossible. So When you're thinking queuing into this with some BADS.. hell no. Mythic+ in Legion doesn't need a queuing system that screws with peoples keys, it needs a weekly static TIGHT NIT group that can grow together, and stay together.

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I have no friends
I want to be carred and not be accountable for my gameplay
I want blizzard to force other people to play with me
I am too lazy to build my own group

Is all I understand reading OP.

I mean I'm a mean motherfucker right, I don't have friends either - but I still find people to run this stuff with pretttttty damn easily as a healer. And I mean, prettttty damn easily. So you can be a scumbag like me, and STILL find people do run this stuff with: As long as you can put down some big dick heals/dmg/tanking

[glowpipe]

No, "back when wow was great" you had to find your own groups in trade chat. They're finally listening to the community

Not at all what made wow great. But do go on

[Queen of Hamsters]

How about no? Want absolute success and zero accountability and the very lowest requirements put on you? Use the LFD tool. Mythic and (in Legion) Mythic+ dungeons are for people that can put in at least a LITTLE effort... Be it something as simple as starting your own group.

The less content where you can auto-win and have automated grouping, the better.