Irresponsible Oil Companies

[InventiveMeasures]

Here's an interview with John Bolenbaugh, a Navy vet who use to work in the oil industry in Michigan. He's exposing their being responsible for polluting the water and not only acknowledging it wasn't clean but covering it up, resulting in dead animals and thousands of dead fish. In addition, they've delayed evacuation and many people he's spoken with are either experiencing health issues or are dealing with a death in the family shortly after the spill.



If you're tired of the hour upon hour coverage of nonsense on mainstream media, here's a couple of independent media channels that are great: TheRealNews, Democracy Now, TYT Politics, Let the Madness Begin, The Humanist Report, Redacted Tonight. If I've missed any or you have a source you get your information from regularly, link it. There's many things to disagree over but polluted water is unacceptable for anyone. Wherever you live, I hope you and your family have clean water and are eating well. Stay safe out there and happy holidays.

[Garnier Fructis]

We need more of this to be known anytime someone complains that nuclear is dangerous.

[Polyxo]

Energy companies have a financial incentive to be as lax with safety and environmental concerns as possible, as it makes oil/gas/coal production as cheap as possible. Andrew Cuomo's taken a somewhat reasonable approach to this regarding gas exploration in New York State by stating an openness to the prospect of gas exploration as long as extensive safety and environmental standards are in place and adhered to. Naturally, companies are trying to 'wait out' Cuomo's tenure in hopes of some republican governor that will turn New York State in to a wild west of gas production, but I don't think people really want Cr6 pumped into the water table.

[Poopymonster]

Energy companies have a financial incentive to be as lax with safety and environmental concerns as possible, as it makes oil/gas/coal production as cheap as possible. Andrew Cuomo's taken a somewhat reasonable approach to this regarding gas exploration in New York State by stating an openness to the prospect of gas exploration as long as extensive safety and environmental standards are in place and adhered to. Naturally, companies are trying to 'wait out' Cuomo's tenure in hopes of some republican governor that will turn New York State in to a wild west of gas production, but I don't think people really want Cr6 pumped into the water table.

Until the "fines" for companies like this fucking up are actually have teeth and they are held liable for said fuck ups, nothing will change.

"Oh, we'll pay that dreadful dreadful awful fine, we're sorry" it was a low end single digit percent of their profit, sometimes they pay a fraction of a percent.

Then back to business as usual.

[alexkeren]

A) It wasn't covered up, at least mostly, it was covered by the media at the time it happened.

B) In 2005, 5 years before the spill, the pipeline was 40 years old and didn't even have many of the safeguards that the Trans-Alaska Pipeline had put in during the 70s.

C) That spill is a prime example of why DAPL is needed. Current technology can prevent a repeat of that spill because of the human error that caused it and more sensors and shut offs along the whole pipeline. Especially immediately on both sides of water crossings.

BTW: None of the Alaskan pipeline spills have happened at either of three plus major water crossings.

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Thank God you have a president now that cares about pollution and strict laws for oil companies

[InventiveMeasures]

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We need more of this to be known anytime someone complains that nuclear is dangerous.

They're both dangerous but I agree, these oil leaks are having huge impacts on the environment.

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A) It wasn't covered up, at least mostly, it was covered by the media at the time it happened.

B) In 2005, 5 years before the spill, the pipeline was 40 years old and didn't even have many of the safeguards that the Trans-Alaska Pipeline had put in during the 70s.

C) That spill is a prime example of why DAPL is needed. Current technology can prevent a repeat of that spill because of the human error that caused it and more sensors and shut offs along the whole pipeline. Especially immediately on both sides of water crossings.

BTW: None of the Alaskan pipeline spills have happened at either of three plus major water crossings.

Sorry, did you see the video? Watch from 6:03

[alexkeren]

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They're both dangerous but I agree, these oil leaks are having huge impacts on the environment.

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Sorry, did you see the video? Watch from 6:03

Did you fact check it like I did, and see that the EPA actually tested and fined the company two years after the spill to dig up the riverbed in three places plus all the news stories day one.

I never said they didn't cut corners, I am telling you it wasn't covered up to the extent he is saying.

He also clearly doesn't understand the economic impact that infrastructure jobs have on an economy. About 10:50 he talks about how there were only 2,000 jobs for Keystone XL and how a waitress tipped isn't a job. Except when a town has an influx of construction workers for 8 months or so lots of jobs are created because demand for services increases above the norm.

And it took more than 2,000 people to build that pipeline, he just wants to look at permanent jobs like many other conspiracy sites without taking into somebody who wasn't working before the construction did have a JOB during construction.