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    Exclamation Right wing extremists praise Finsbury Park Terror Attack

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7799901.html

    Right-wing extremists have responded to the Finsbury Park terror attack by urging UK citizens to “rise up and cast Islam out of their country.”

    Extremists also sought to defend the attack, in which a van ploughed into Muslims after late-night Ramadan prayers, by claiming: “This is war … We have the right to fight back.”

    The social media posts were shown to The Independent amid anxieties that the British authorities are “way behind” the increasingly sophisticated tactics used by right wing extremists to radicalise followers online.

    Tell Mama, the anti-hate and Islamophobia group said that extremists are now covering their tracks by using untraceable mobile phones and (Virtual Private Network) VPN services that conceal their computer’s location – leaving the police unable to find them.

    They have also used less regulated social networks like the Russian-based VKontakte (VK) service to build up “spider’s web” networks of like-minded individuals who then support and radicalise each other.

    It is not clear what influence – if any – social media and online radicalisation played in the Finsbury Park incident.

    But it appears that the tactics highlighted by Tell Mama have already been used by British right-wingers to plot violence online.

    In December 2016 one extremist, thought to have been based in the West Midlands, responded to the Berlin Christmas market truck attack of December 2016, by asking on VK: “t's time for Europe to act these vile creatures need flushing out of our homelands into the sea! Looking to join a group who is active in fighting Islamic invaders in Europe! I'm UK based but will travel to Paris and Germany, drop me a message!”

    Photographs posted on the extremist’s VK profile revealed him showing off his dagger, and posing in balaclava with the blade strapped to his belt. He also showed himself giving a Nazi salute.

    Tell Mama passed his post to the counter-terrorism police, but Fiyaz Mughal, founder of Tell Mama, said that more generally: “There is a problem. The British authorities are way behind.

    “The Home Office has its own extremism analysis unit, but it doesn’t act on some of the information. It doesn’t see the extremism element as something it needs to work robustly on.

    “We are not fully using all legal means to challenge the extremists’ narrative. Initiatives to create a counter-narrative are stalled. Right now, the British Government is fumbling.”

    Meanwhile, he said, right-wing extremists were able to operate like a mirror image of Isis.

    “They are doing exactly what Daesh [Isis] are doing,” said Mr Mughal. “They are preying on people who are vulnerable, who may have some sort of crisis in their lives.

    “They are throwing out a net and seeing which fish they catch. Sadly, their assumption is that out of a population of 60 million people, someone will do something on the back of the information they put out.”

    The extremists behind some websites, he said, might be careful to avoid directly calling for violence, but they aimed to produce “the inference of violence”.

    “It’s creating an atmosphere of hatred, of mistrust,” said Mr Mughal. “It’s creating an enmity that basically says ‘These people are in no way part of our society’.”

    Tell Mama showed The Independent screengrabs of a Facebook paged linked to British far-right supporters which on Monday evening hosted an online discussion of the Finsbury Park attack.

    One user, who appeared to be based outside the UK, praised the man suspected of carrying out the attack.

    “Good for him,” he wrote. “Muslims are killing them left and right over there, and their own government won’t help them.

    “It is time for the citizens to rise up and cast them out of their country.”
    The U.K. needs to do something about this. Hopefully May steps down and the next PM is ready to take serious action. How many more of these attacks are going to happen..

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    This never would have happened had they deported his great grandfather.

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    I hope there isn't a backlash against innocent right-wingers because of a few extremists that have perverted right-wing politics. Right-wing politics are a politics of peace. Living with anti-Islamic terrorism is just part and parcel of living in a great, international city.

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    What's troubling is how they're hiding being VPNs and other tools to avoid detection by the authorities. We need to see way more funding dedicating to stamping this ideology out.

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    Right wing extremists are not evil. They want to protect their families.

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    Its ok, Thinkpol will get them.

    They already got one guy.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-40347813

    Quote Originally Posted by BBC
    A man has been arrested on suspicion of posting an offensive Facebook post about the London Finsbury Park attack. Police said a 37-year-old, believed to be the son of an owner of the Rhondda Cynon Taff company whose van was used in Monday's attack, is in custody.

    Richard Evans allegedly posted: "It's a shame they don't hire out steam rollers or tanks could have done a tidy job then."

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    Quote Originally Posted by I Push Buttons View Post
    Its ok, Thinkpol will get them.

    They already got one guy.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-40347813
    More of this would result in a much safer society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tennisace View Post
    More of this would result in a much safer society.
    Careful what you wish for, you'd probably get a life sentence with all your fat shaming.

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    It's very strange times we live in, watching as people become radicalized towards violence and authoritarianism before our very eyes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tennisace View Post
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7799901.html



    The U.K. needs to do something about this. Hopefully May steps down and the next PM is ready to take serious action. How many more of these attacks are going to happen..
    Right wing extremists are so rare and such a small group. You can't be blaming one single act of extremism on all right wingers and making it like there's some evil war against Muslims from the right. This is hate speech.

    Stop with the Rightophobia Tennisace

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    Quote Originally Posted by Naadir View Post
    Right wing extremists are not evil. They want to protect their families.
    Right-wing people may want to protect their family but extremists are a bit more rabid and zealous so protection may be more of an afterthought, a coincidental goal to reach but not the forefront of their reasoning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tennisace View Post
    More of this would result in a much safer society.
    Yeah we might actually catch all extremists: Muslims, Christians, Right, Left, black, white. So let's crack down on them all. Oh wait that's not what you meant. Just the ones who hurt your side right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calfredd View Post
    Right-wing people may want to protect their family but extremists are a bit more rabid and zealous so protection may be more of an afterthought, a coincidental goal to reach but not the forefront of their reasoning.
    People are just throwing back what the left says when a Muslim attack occurs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by purebalance View Post
    People are just throwing back what the left says when a Muslim attack occurs.
    God forbid people ask others not to generalise.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
    The world is not divided between East and West. You are American, I am Iranian, we don't know each other, but we talk and understand each other perfectly. The difference between you and your government is much bigger than the difference between you and me. And the difference between me and my government is much bigger than the difference between me and you. And our governments are very much the same.

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    Just as how Muslim extremists praise whenever there is an attack carried out in the name of Islam.

    Next; Water is wet, who woulda thunk??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spectral View Post
    Living with anti-Islamic terrorism is just part and parcel of living in a great, international city.
    Misquoting people is also part and parcel of living in a great, international city

    “Part and parcel of living in a great global city is you’ve got to be prepared for these things, you’ve got to be vigilant, you’ve got to support the police doing an incredibly hard job,” said Mr Khan, who was in New York at the time.

    “The terrorists are evolving their tactics and we have got to evolve our response to them all the time. I am afraid the consequences of a terror attack are very, very scary. They want to kill. They want to maim and terrify. It is my job to try to make sure that we are as safe as we can be.”
    “The biggest communication problem is we do not listen to understand. We listen to reply,” Stephen Covey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spectral View Post
    I hope there isn't a backlash against innocent right-wingers because of a few extremists that have perverted right-wing politics. Right-wing politics are a politics of peace. Living with anti-Islamic terrorism is just part and parcel of living in a great, international city.
    We should really do our best to not insult or criticize the alt right. Anyone using the word "Trumpkin" or portraying Emperor Trump in a negative light is actually feeding into this terrorism. It's time to capitulate before anyone's feelings are hurt and other people might disagree with our freedoms.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Didactic View Post
    God forbid people ask others not to generalise.
    Well, at least you've never generalized about right-wing or conservatives or christians or republicans. It's good to know we have such a beacon of morality and wisdom here.

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    Doesn't the UK have some remote Island that they can deport all their extremists to? Solve all the problems in one fell swoop.

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    Radicals support acts of terrorism, the two often go hand in hand. Just as there are radicals and fundamentalists in the Middle East, we also have them at home in the west. I've watched plenty of people turn into both left wing, and right wing radicals in the last few years. It's very easy to become brainwashed, and can happen in an alarmingly short amount of time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemposs View Post
    Doesn't the UK have some remote Island that they can deport all their extremists to? Solve all the problems in one fell swoop.
    Sadly we don't have Australia anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pacox View Post
    This never would have happened had they deported his great grandfather.
    Some other nutjob would have done it. This wouldn't have happened if the grand fathers and grandmothers of the muslims were not allowed in in the first place.

    No muslims, no friction.

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