View Poll Results: 10 days left, what'll it be?

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  • Hard Brexit (crash out)

    45 48.91%
  • No Brexit (Remain by revoking A50)

    24 26.09%
  • Withdrawal Agreement (after a new session is called)

    0 0%
  • Extension + Withdrawal Agreement

    3 3.26%
  • Extension + Crashout

    9 9.78%
  • Extension + Remain

    11 11.96%
  1. #281
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    Quote Originally Posted by Floopa View Post
    people think all leave voters are conservative

    i'm pretty damn socialist, and i support corbyn all the way, and that's why i voted to leave.

    as well as the other reasons i've stated.
    there was a nationalism sentiment associated with the leave campaign. I remember people saying that the british culture was being "diluted" and that was bad. Those ideology are generaly associated with the right or the far right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vankrys View Post
    there was a nationalism sentiment associated with the leave campaign. I remember people saying that the british culture was being "diluted" and that was bad. Those ideology are generaly associated with the right or the far right.
    i think immigration is great. i'm all for it. it helps out, offering cheaper labour and the work ethic of immigrants is far better than that of british citizens (as sad as that is to admit).

    voting leave however was the right choice. teresa may is just trying her hardest to get us to stay in the EU because she's a remainer, and always has been

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    Quote Originally Posted by Floopa View Post
    i think immigration is great. i'm all for it. it helps out, offering cheaper labour and the work ethic of immigrants is far better than that of british citizens (as sad as that is to admit).

    voting leave however was the right choice. teresa may is just trying her hardest to get us to stay in the EU because she's a remainer, and always has been
    can you articulate, in simple language, why?
    don't go into the great rethoric, don't parrot the campaign slogan, but with your own words,simple words, with your own understanding, why is leaving better for UK?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vankrys View Post
    can you articulate, in simple language, why?
    don't go into the great rethoric, don't parrot the campaign slogan, but with your own words,simple words, with your own understanding, why is leaving better for UK?
    because the eu is made up of self elected individuals whose purpose is to create a continental state with 1 parliament, 1 army, and 1 treasury. we would lose everything that's traditional and dear to us, and lose any hope of embracing democratic socialism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Floopa View Post
    because the eu is made up of self elected individuals whose purpose is to create a continental state with 1 parliament, 1 army, and 1 treasury. we would lose everything that's traditional and dear to us, and lose any hope of embracing democratic socialism.
    So you are misinformed about the EU, that explains a lot, there is just one question left:

    Why do you want to move there after you have ruined the UK?

  6. #286
    Quote Originally Posted by Noradin View Post
    So you are misinformed about the EU, that explains a lot, there is just one question left:

    Why do you want to move there after you have ruined the UK?
    house prices in france are considerably less (and they're nicer homes too) than the UK because we have a horrible government in power currently.

    the home we could buy in france would cost about triple/quadruple in the UK.

    food for thought.

  7. #287
    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    No, it's conservative movements. This echoes a lot of what we heard during the 2008 US presidential campaign. Not from McCain as much, if memory serves he ran a pretty solid campaign personally, but you bet your ass Palin was all over it and so were a large number of conservative pundits/politicians/news outlets.

    It's not idiots hijacking, it's more or less become a core part of many modern conservative ideologies.
    Palin is not representative of any conservative movement. She's representative of crazy people. It's absolutely fine to reject idiots and say "They pretend to be conservatives, but they're really not. Their primary function is 'The Crazies'."
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  8. #288
    Quote Originally Posted by Maklor View Post
    ^ I'd like to see you learn French - LMAO!
    duolingo

    not to mention there are lots of british expats living in france at the moment who don't speak french, and more importantly britain has the great advantage (albeit ignorant) of most of the western world speaking english as a primary language for business etc.

  9. #289
    Quote Originally Posted by ati87 View Post
    Seriously hijacking by who exactly? The politicians that run disgusting racist campaigns based on fabricated lies or the people that vote them in power?

    This may be a Brexit topic but in a sense Brexit and trump are the same thing.

    The GOP primairy had 18 people who ran for president and at least 2 or 3 weren't the darlings of the deplorable movement.
    Brexit and Trump are the same movement of bored idiots that want to see "What happens if we all vote... Fuck you?" Make no mistake, when those trolls are being serious, they don't vote Brexit nor Trump. But many, many people voted as a joke and the rest voted out of ignorance and a severe lack of basic education. But that's not even the issue. The issue is that people like Jonsson, Farage or Trump do not care about political agendas, politican orientation or streams and certainly not who they have to fuck to get access to a "legit" platform on which to perform their show.

    If the liberals had been desperate enough to embrace them, we'd be having this conversation about the liberals right now. These leeches aren't conservative... they're destructive. They just want to fuck things up and then see what happens. How can I make such a bold statement? Easy, none of them has an actual idea what to do when they actually get power. One of them tweets his poor little heart out due to the sheer panic of him having to actually run a country and the fact that he's more overwhelmed by it than a 5 year old by the idea that Vader is indeed Luke's father... and the other ones waved goodbye and admitted it being a fraud basically as soon as they won their precious little troll-poll.

    No, this isn't conservatism. This is destructivism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Floopa View Post
    house prices in france are considerably less (and they're nicer homes too) than the UK because we have a horrible government in power currently.

    the home we could buy in france would cost about triple/quadruple in the UK.

    food for thought.
    Wait, so the whole self elected individuals who are out to create a contintenal state with 1 parliament, 1 army and 1 treasury becomes meaningless as soon as you have a nice house?

    hu

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    Quote Originally Posted by Floopa View Post
    duolingo

    not to mention there are lots of british expats living in france at the moment who don't speak french, and more importantly britain has the great advantage (albeit ignorant) of most of the western world speaking english as a primary language for business etc.
    Those expats will become illegals if your government won't reach a deal with the EU.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mayhem View Post
    Those expats will become illegals if your government won't reach a deal with the EU.
    that's not how it'll work but ok.

  12. #292
    Quote Originally Posted by Floopa View Post
    people think all leave voters are conservative

    i'm pretty damn socialist, and i support corbyn all the way, and that's why i voted to leave.

    as well as the other reasons i've stated.
    And that's why you're looking forward to moving to France if Brexit goes tits up?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Floopa View Post
    house prices in france are considerably less (and they're nicer homes too) than the UK because we have a horrible government in power currently.

    the home we could buy in france would cost about triple/quadruple in the UK.

    food for thought.
    Maybe you should eat that thought food.
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  13. #293
    Quote Originally Posted by Slant View Post
    Brexit and Trump are the same movement of bored idiots that want to see "What happens if we all vote... Fuck you?" Make no mistake, when those trolls are being serious, they don't vote Brexit nor Trump. But many, many people voted as a joke and the rest voted out of ignorance and a severe lack of basic education. But that's not even the issue. The issue is that people like Jonsson, Farage or Trump do not care about political agendas, politican orientation or streams and certainly not who they have to fuck to get access to a "legit" platform on which to perform their show.

    If the liberals had been desperate enough to embrace them, we'd be having this conversation about the liberals right now. These leeches aren't conservative... they're destructive. They just want to fuck things up and then see what happens. How can I make such a bold statement? Easy, none of them has an actual idea what to do when they actually get power. One of them tweets his poor little heart out due to the sheer panic of him having to actually run a country and the fact that he's more overwhelmed by it than a 5 year old by the idea that Vader is indeed Luke's father... and the other ones waved goodbye and admitted it being a fraud basically as soon as they won their precious little troll-poll.

    No, this isn't conservatism. This is destructivism.
    Current day conservatisme is by essence destructive be it on social issues or economical.

    What was good about the ''good old days'' that real conservative want to go back to? between the end of the 19th century and WW2 the governments around the world discovered that liberal economical policies where the government makes sure people are educated, healthy and well off is the way to go.

    Social issues I'm not going to even touch because that's pretty obvious.

    Conservatives want to reverse and destroy both because of either stupidity or hate which doesn't make any motivation better.

  14. #294
    Quote Originally Posted by Mormolyce View Post
    And that's why you're looking forward to moving to France if Brexit goes tits up?

    Maybe you should eat that thought food.
    if brexit goes as planned then i wont obviously. if we exit without a deal that would be best, but if we have some stupid transitional period where we pay £ billions for the privilege of 'almost leaving' and 'trade' then i would because we'd basically be wasting our £s in that case.

    NO DEAL is the best deal britain can get. the EU knows it, UK knows it and the world knows it. that's why the remoaner cabinet and DExEU are colluding with the EU to sabotage the brexit dream.

  15. #295
    Quote Originally Posted by Floopa View Post
    house prices in france are considerably less (and they're nicer homes too) than the UK because we have a horrible government in power currently.

    the home we could buy in france would cost about triple/quadruple in the UK.

    food for thought.
    Food for thought?
    Yes, absolutely, you should take some time and think about that, and then think about why you vote to make the homes in the UK even more unaffordable for everyone but the rich. Because that is what the Brexit will archieve.

  16. #296
    Quote Originally Posted by Floopa View Post
    if brexit goes as planned then i wont obviously. if we exit without a deal that would be best, but if we have some stupid transitional period where we pay £ billions for the privilege of 'almost leaving' and 'trade' then i would because we'd basically be wasting our £s in that case.
    A) You're paying billions anyway, because you already owe it.
    B) The "best deal" is the one you already had, any deal the UK makes with the EU will be objectively worse than simply staying in it. The EU has an incentive to ensure that this is the case and the UK has no bargaining power.

    Quote Originally Posted by Floopa View Post
    NO DEAL is the best deal britain can get. the EU knows it, UK knows it and the world knows it. that's why the remoaner cabinet and DExEU are colluding with the EU to sabotage the brexit dream.
    C) What in the name of God are you talking about?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Floopa View Post
    duolingo

    not to mention there are lots of british expats living in france at the moment who don't speak french, and more importantly britain has the great advantage (albeit ignorant) of most of the western world speaking english as a primary language for business etc.
    Yes, unfortunately English speaking people sometimes labour under the delusion that they do not need to learn the language of the country they live in.
    They think it is an advantage, but they are really just deluding themselves.

  18. #298
    Quote Originally Posted by Noradin View Post
    Food for thought?
    Yes, absolutely, you should take some time and think about that, and then think about why you vote to make the homes in the UK even more unaffordable for everyone but the rich. Because that is what the Brexit will archieve.
    brexit will mean no deal, which means the conservative party will lose power at the next GE, and labour will take over.

    under corbyn and mcdonnell and their socialist policies, the housing market will crash reducing house prices by 40%~, utilities, transport, education will all become nationalised again, cutting prices significantly for everyone. capitalism will cease to exist.

    that's why no deal is the best deal brexit can bring.

    checkmate remoaners.
    Quote Originally Posted by Noradin View Post
    Yes, unfortunately English speaking people sometimes labour under the delusion that they do not need to learn the language of the country they live in.
    They think it is an advantage, but they are really just deluding themselves.
    it's not delusion it's fact.

    for example: all of you europeans are using my language on this board, which was founded by a french person. this board was then sold to another french person (the individual who founded curse), and you're still using my language.

    checkmate europeans.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Floopa View Post
    brexit will mean no deal, which means the conservative party will lose power at the next GE, and labour will take over.

    under corbyn and mcdonnell and their socialist policies, the housing market will crash reducing house prices by 40%~, utilities, transport, education will all become nationalised again, cutting prices significantly for everyone. capitalism will cease to exist.

    that's why no deal is the best deal brexit can bring.

    checkmate remoaners.
    So, you want the UK to fucking burn? How the hell is that a victory?

  20. #300
    Quote Originally Posted by Floopa View Post
    brexit will mean no deal, which means the conservative party will lose power at the next GE, and labour will take over.

    under corbyn and mcdonnell and their socialist policies, the housing market will crash reducing house prices by 40%~, utilities, transport, education will all become nationalised again, cutting prices significantly for everyone. capitalism will cease to exist.

    that's why no deal is the best deal brexit can bring.

    checkmate remoaners.
    Did you overdose on some medication or are you trying to bash the UK by portraying their population as raving lunatics?

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