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    CNN: Japan's Abe on track for 'landslide victory'

    Haven't seen this posted yet.

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    ABC on the matter.

    Supposedly he'll be able to start making constitutional changes with this one. Watch out.
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    goodbye pacifism

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    Quote Originally Posted by Putricide View Post
    Supposedly he'll be able to start making constitutional changes with this one. Watch out.
    Polling is ridiculously vague, but I guess there's still hope that voters will shoot down Article 9 revision, since the Japanese public has long been opposed to this. Remember, Abe needs 2/3 in both houses and simple majority support in a referendum. Referendum polls have been largely inconclusive lately, because the level of support or opposition depends on how the questions are asked. Essentially, people are more open now to slight revision. But if Abe gets greedy and pushes for full re-militarization, voters are likely to tell him to fuck off.

    Any revision of Article 9 needs to be done under a Prime Minister that understands the consequences. Not under a history whitewashing, war criminal glorifying scumbag like Abe.
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    can you leftist twits just fucking admit that quantum mechanics has fuck all to do with thermodynamics, that shit is just a pose?

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    Not to mention more of the Fukushima contamination, cover up and lies that has gone on for over 6 years now with no end in sight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garnier Fructis View Post
    Polling is ridiculously vague, but I guess there's still hope that voters will shoot down Article 9 revision, since the Japanese public has long been opposed to this. Remember, Abe needs 2/3 in both houses and simple majority support in a referendum. Referendum polls have been largely inconclusive lately, because the level of support or opposition depends on how the questions are asked. Essentially, people are more open now to slight revision. But if Abe gets greedy and pushes for full re-militarization, voters are likely to tell him to fuck off.

    Any revision of Article 9 needs to be done under a Prime Minister that understands the consequences. Not under a history whitewashing, war criminal glorifying scumbag like Abe.
    Ah, so now it's the lefties calling out the polls...

    But in all seriousness, this election for them is very situational, as the reality of stuck between the Glorious Kim Jong "Use Nippon as a test site for missile range" Un and President Donald "Fire and Fury" Trump is kicking in full force.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Putricide View Post
    Ah, so now it's the lefties calling out the polls...

    But in all seriousness, this election for them is very situational, as the reality of stuck between the Glorious Kim Jong "Use Nippon as a test site for missile range" Un and President Donald "Fire and Fury" Trump is kicking in full force.
    I know you weren't being totally serious with the polling thing, but it's not like I'm being inconsistent or anything. The U.S. is heavily polled on a variety of issues; most other countries aren't. It's simply not comparable and there's no contradiction in judging the quality of polling differently.

    And yeah, Kim Jong Un is basically giving Abe an early Christmas present with this. He's wanted to re-militarize Japan for over a decade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ctd123 View Post
    goodbye pacifism
    Plus if Japan gets nukes. There's no incentive for them to build the giant mechs they promised us.

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    It seems like the most short-slightest political-thing after brexit: He heavily build his campaign on elder people.

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    Never has a more left-wing economic program than this won in any democratic country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paralleluniverse View Post
    Never has a more left-wing economic program than this won in any democratic country.
    Well they are approaching 30 years of abject failure economically. They are so far in debt at this point they are better off invading China than trying to pay it back

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maklor View Post
    What the hell are you talking about?
    Educate yourself on Abe's economic policy.

    They involve huge amounts of fiscal stimulus, government spending, huge amounts of quantitative easing. This is a guy who takes his economic advice from Nobel Prize winning economist Paul Krugman.

    https://twitter.com/TokyoWoods/statu...84226875969536

    Like I said, this is the most left-wing economic program that has ever won a democratic election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by satimy View Post
    Well they are approaching 30 years of abject failure economically. They are so far in debt at this point they are better off invading China than trying to pay it back
    Wrong. Japan's problem is low inflation.

    Yes, Japan has the largest government debt in the world, but it has one of the lowest unemployment rates and inflation rate, and government borrowing costs are virtually 0. If anything, the lesson from Japan should be that government debt doesn't matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by satimy View Post
    Well they are approaching 30 years of abject failure economically. They are so far in debt at this point they are better off invading China than trying to pay it back
    huh? just like the US the majority of the debt is owned by the Japanese not foreigners.

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    He ran virtually unopposed after Koike split up the main opposition party. Still, Abe is probably more unpopular than Trump in Japan because of the two school scandals. The mood here is very populist and anti-political right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paralleluniverse View Post
    Educate yourself on Abe's economic policy.

    They involve huge amounts of fiscal stimulus, government spending, huge amounts of quantitative easing. This is a guy who takes his economic advice from Nobel Prize winning economist Paul Krugman.

    https://twitter.com/TokyoWoods/statu...84226875969536

    Like I said, this is the most left-wing economic program that has ever won a democratic election.

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    Wrong. Japan's problem is low inflation.

    Yes, Japan has the largest government debt in the world, but it has one of the lowest unemployment rates and inflation rate, and government borrowing costs are virtually 0. If anything, the lesson from Japan should be that government debt doesn't matter.
    Japan is still recovering from a massive asset bubble bursting followed by 20 years of low economic growth

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    What makes me wonder is the effects on the economy, if they happen to change constitution then enforce a conscription based army. Don't think it will happen but I wonder. I mean look at us spending insane amount of money on military stuff. All that money could have been used for something more productive.

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    There's a big difference between calling into question the specificity of a poll and just labelling them "fake".
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    It is a fact, not just something I made up.

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    So, the rise of ethno-nationalism continues in Japan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Polyxo View Post
    So, the rise of ethno-nationalism continues in Japan.
    The rise of Keynesian economics continues in Japan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by satimy View Post
    Japan is still recovering from a massive asset bubble bursting followed by 20 years of low economic growth
    Low growth (big part of this is demographics) and low inflation. But not a debt crisis as you incorrectly implied.

    Living standards in Japan is fine, it's not a country in recession, unemployment is super low.

    And they're dealing with this with the most left-wing economic program.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paralleluniverse View Post
    The rise of Keynesian economics continues in Japan.

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    Low growth (big part of this is demographics) and low inflation. But not a debt crisis as you incorrectly implied.

    Living standards in Japan is fine, it's not a country in recession, unemployment is super low.

    And they're dealing with this with the most left-wing economic program.
    It is a debt crisis because they spent all of that money and it didn't improve the economy. Servicing the debt also takes up something like half of Japan's tax revenues

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