Shadowpriests highest DPS

[Acerra]

KT is the only fight currently in game where I go below 75% mana and even then the lowest I go there is 50%. I do not use SW at all in my rotation. I even tease our mages (the group I'm always in is 2 mages, a lock & an ele shaman) about them going oom on nearly every fight or dropping down to like 10% then popping gems/mana pots/evo cause me & the shaman never seem to use our mana up. Most fights I'm sitting at 90-95% mana at the end and am always in top 10 (usually top 5) on dmg meters for overall dmg & dps. Using SW was removed from rotations back at the end of BC for a reason....the dmg per mana wasn't worth it even if you were in Kara/ZA gear.

So, you leave SW out of your priority at the cost of dps in order to save mana...even though you end up with, as you say, almost full mana at the end of most every fight? Seems a bit pointless imo to brag about your infinite mana when you are sacrificing dps to get there. And not to be rude, but the op was asking for information about single fights, not where you end up on overall dmg meters, which is skewed by the scaling of mind sear anyway(if you meant "overall dmg and dps" for that particular fight then of course nvm."

[wildcardNS]

I usually charge up my illustration of the dragon soul by healing myself before the pull, then I hit shadowform just as we pull so I start with the extra spellpower.

Might I suggest instead mind searing the rats behind where most raids buff for the pull? You start with more mana, not that it really matters I guess

[gaymer77]

So, you leave SW out of your priority at the cost of dps in order to save mana...even though you end up with, as you say, almost full mana at the end of most every fight? Seems a bit pointless imo to brag about your infinite mana when you are sacrificing dps to get there. And not to be rude, but the op was asking for information about single fights, not where you end up on overall dmg meters, which is skewed by the scaling of mind sear anyway(if you meant "overall dmg and dps" for that particular fight then of course nvm."

Ok let me clarify. I leave SW out of my rotation because the waste of a GCD isn't worth it when I could start a mindflay that does the same amount of dmg in addition to costing a mere faction of the mana. Its not worth it & as I stated, every decent spriest removed it from their rotation halfway through BC because that's about when it started sucking ass. As for my statement about ending fights with near full mana, that was boss fights not trash. On AOE trash fights (which we do for nearly every pull in Naxx as it is since we pull 2-3 groups at once unless we're doing Immortal runs) I'm top of the meters. When I said I'm "always in top 10 (usually top 5) on dmg meters for overall dmg & dps" that was referring to boss fights. I guess my wording of "overall dmg & dps" might have sounded wierd to you. What I meant is the overall dmg done on the boss fight & dps. You can be #1 on dps but in the middle of the pack for overall dmg done on the boss and vice versa.

[Priested]

I have not done patch with my current gear. I sat out last week for a friend and then proceeded to get upgrades when I came back in. But I did a 25 Man Maly last night and sustained 6.2k DPS (with drake) and 4.8k without. What numbers are you guys getting on Maly?

[cokegirl]

http://www.wowmeteronline.com/rank/clazz/dps/pri/6/0/3

scroll down to patchwerk

[Anglarana]

I have not done patch with my current gear. I sat out last week for a friend and then proceeded to get upgrades when I came back in. But I did a 25 Man Maly last night and sustained 6.2k DPS (with drake) and 4.8k without. What numbers are you guys getting on Maly?

Just finished our Maly raid for 2night with 20 man. I do not count the drake phase with dps because it really is luckbased. We had 2 tries on maly because we went for the denying the scion achy for our healers and tanks. The first try during the drake phase i had a total of 11 surges. The 2nd try i had 6 surges and the 3rd try (when we killed him) I only had 2 surges.

I had a sustained dps ranging from 5400 dps to a maximum of sustainable dps at 6100. This is P1 + P2, without the drake phase (As I already said).

[Juicebox]

Malygos is a very stupid fight to measure dps at.
It's mostly based on luck. But as a Shadowpriest I often win P1+P2 damage meters, since my dots got time to tick during the vortex, and the fact that i can throw dots in P2 while running between bubbles.

[heriana]

Ok let me clarify. I leave SW out of my rotation because the waste of a GCD isn't worth it when I could start a mindflay that does the same amount of dmg in addition to costing a mere faction of the mana. Its not worth it & as I stated, every decent spriest removed it from their rotation halfway through BC because that's about when it started sucking ass. As for my statement about ending fights with near full mana, that was boss fights not trash. On AOE trash fights (which we do for nearly every pull in Naxx as it is since we pull 2-3 groups at once unless we're doing Immortal runs) I'm top of the meters. When I said I'm "always in top 10 (usually top 5) on dmg meters for overall dmg & dps" that was referring to boss fights. I guess my wording of "overall dmg & dps" might have sounded wierd to you. What I meant is the overall dmg done on the boss fight & dps. You can be #1 on dps but in the middle of the pack for overall dmg done on the boss and vice versa.

I'm not going to take the time to argue numbers with you, so I simply have 1 question for you. Why do you suppose that every single one of the top 10 patchwerk dps shadowpriests used Shadow Word: Death during the encounter if every single decent spriest removed it from their 'rotation'?

http://wmo.178.com/combat/compare/41946486

[Strykzor]

5.4k
3 minute kill
Popped Wild Magic b4 hero by mistake.
No extra buffs pi/tricks/focus magic.
Unlucky RNG with crits.
300mc (Oceanic Ping)
And I was a bit slow keeping VT/DP up and not MB every cd. (was also keeping VE up, immortal run)
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...san&n=Strykzor
http://wowwebstats.com/4ie2gt6svc1r1?s=245960-277967

Im sure i could do 5.8kish with Good kill time and focused on my rotation

[AetherMcLoud]

I'm not going to take the time to argue numbers with you, so I simply have 1 question for you. Why do you suppose that every single one of the top 10 patchwerk dps shadowpriests used Shadow Word: Death during the encounter if every single decent spriest removed it from their 'rotation'?

http://wmo.178.com/combat/compare/41946486

The most SWDs that one of those got off was 10. Over a ~3 minute fight. Most of them used 1-4 SWDs. Can't really talk about a rotationt here. They oughta use it when the time is right, just as I use it.

For example when there is a 3 second cooldown on DP left, MB has cooldown too, and VT needs to be refreshed. I might go VT-SWD-DP-MB there then.

[gaymer77]

I'm not going to take the time to argue numbers with you, so I simply have 1 question for you. Why do you suppose that every single one of the top 10 patchwerk dps shadowpriests used Shadow Word: Death during the encounter if every single decent spriest removed it from their 'rotation'?

http://wmo.178.com/combat/compare/41946486

Of the links that were in English & didn't have a dead link, here are ones that used them and those that didn't. I'm only posting those that aren't dead links & those that are in English. YOu can set the filter to show the whole fight at once & the event type to "attack". Using those 2 filters will show you all of spells used as dmg dealing & removes stuff like inner focus, replinishment, gaining misery, etc

http://wmo.178.com/combat/eventfilte...2E26/0/HIT/nil Used once at the end of the fight

http://wmo.178.com/combat/eventfilte...CCC1/0/HIT/nil Used it 4 times in the course of 2 1/2 minutes.

http://wmo.178.com/combat/eventfilte...53E0/0/HIT/nil Used it 9 times including the one that crit himself for nearly 10k

http://wmo.178.com/combat/eventfilte...DF8A/0/HIT/nil Used once at the very start of the fight & never again

http://wmo.178.com/combat/eventfilte...92DE/0/HIT/nil Used once at the end of the fight only

http://wmo.178.com/combat/eventfilte...FE02/0/HIT/nil Used 5 times and average dmg done was around 6k

http://wmo.178.com/combat/eventfilte...DEE5/0/HIT/nil Uses it 3 times in the 2 1/2 minute fight

http://wmo.178.com/combat/eventfilte...7D32/0/HIT/nil Uses it 2 times in the 2 1/2 minute fight

http://wmo.178.com/combat/eventfilte...DEE5/0/HIT/nil Uses it 3 times in the 2 1/2 minute fight



Do you see a pattern here? Priests removed it from their rotation. Yes a few times we do use it like when a prayer of mending bounces to use we bounce it back off us by using SW. That priest that used it 9 times is NOT the norm. The more SP that we get, the more dmg it does to us even with our reduction talent. Not only that, but it doesn't give as much dmg per mana as other spells. For the most part, a tick of mindflay does the same dmg that SW does & doesn't waste a GCD to use since MF is a good chunk of our rotation.

[gaymer77]

Oh and if you want to look at what that priest that used it 9 times caused the healers to do then look at these

http://wmo.178.com/combat/eventfilte...3053E0/HEA/nil Both lifebloom & wildgrowth were used to heal him

[Simixiz]

Well, I'm back after another round with patchwerk.

This is the WWS report: http://wowwebstats.com/4ssdqi21bro3m...239&a=x12caf05
And as you can see I had 24% crit on MB resulting in a very low dps.
I'll see if I can get a more accurate crit rating next week.

[Battêry]

Damn all you non-oceanic players and your low ms!! I sit at around 400-450 all the time >.<

Anyway, can't like a WWS (GM hates it when we link them to randies), but my best is 5403 DPS. IMO I could easily go higher with decent ping, but oh well.

Also, why are you people trying to argue that SW is worth using? You do realise its 1, yes ONE, DPS increase according to SimCraft and goes to around 40 DPS if you have 4P T7, which you shouldn't. EDIT: Doesn't appear the latest SimCraft even has SW in it anymore, that should tell you something.

[Nezoia]

Managed to finally hit 5k+ dps in a raid last night. We always run very melee heavy setup, and don't have a Boomkin

So I'd say that's decent, and it was also my pre. Ulduar goal for dps.

(And I got the Torch, yay!)

[Lanfear]

I am seriously having some issues with getting dps up past 3500 on ANY giving wotlk boss.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...n=Lanf%C3%ABar

Yes...I know not hit capped however I use +40 hit rating buff food to get capped. I also have the emblem +hit offhand. However I just can't figure out what I am doing wrong on dps. I use vt,dp,mb,mf, swp rotation so that I get the 5 stacks of weaving and I seem to be hitting the dummies for 2700 self buffed.

Any constructive crit would be great, cause I hate failing like this.

[Qualia]

I am seriously having some issues with getting dps up past 3500 on ANY giving wotlk boss.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...n=Lanf%C3%ABar

Yes...I know not hit capped however I use +40 hit rating buff food to get capped. I also have the emblem +hit offhand. However I just can't figure out what I am doing wrong on dps. I use vt,dp,mb,mf, swp rotation so that I get the 5 stacks of weaving and I seem to be hitting the dummies for 2700 self buffed.

Any constructive crit would be great, cause I hate failing like this.

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Your gear & spec seem to be fine. Not the best attainable, but still enough to reach 4k7-5k on Patch easily. If you don't mind, can you give us a WWS so it would be easier to check why are you getting lower than 3.5k dps?

Back to topic, my DPS is usually ~5k on Patchy w/o flask n class buff, with the my best is 5k5 near 5k6 in a fully buffed + ToTT. However I've heard about SP doing 5k8-6k on shadowpriest.com already ._.

@ Battêry:

Also, why are you people trying to argue that SW is worth using? You do realise its 1, yes ONE, DPS increase according to SimCraft and goes to around 40 DPS if you have 4P T7, which you shouldn't.

I just joined the thread so I don't know what you guys were arguing, but SW is worth using, not whenever it's up like we did in BC but as a filter spell when you have 1s or less until MB is up or you have to move around =) I haven't checked SimCraft for a while, but I'm sure last time I checked it was more than 1 dps increase.

[Lanfear]

I don't have a current wws report, I will get one this week and post it for your input.

[Strykzor]

SWD is crap, if you use it you are crap.

END OF DISCUSSION

[Lanfear]

http://wowwebstats.com/df3k3vnefg5ck

That is a WWS report while on test dummy. Self buffed with inner fire and +40sp food buff. (Not Hit capped)

I am trying to upload another report where I am hitcapped...but it isn't uploading so go with this and when I figure out the wws stuff I will post another.

Thanks for the help.