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    Balance spec?

    Hi people...

    I am a Restoration Druid, and I will have Balance as my secondary spec. I just don't know how talents should be and which glyphs etc. It's just for making dailies and joining dungeons/raids if my raid needs me or something like that.

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    Re: Balance spec?

    A nice talent for moonkin is http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?drui...0&version=9551

    U can read alot of nice info here if u need it :
    http://elitistjerks.com/f73/t41030-m...guide_dummies/

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    Re: Balance spec?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sasser
    A nice talent for moonkin is http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?drui...0&version=9551

    U can read alot of nice info here if u need it :
    http://elitistjerks.com/f73/t41030-m...guide_dummies/

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    Re: Balance spec?

    I'm not a boomkin expert but Improved Moonfire? Gale Winds? No Celestial Focus?

    I haven't kept up with the EJ research for Boomkins even though I play one as an alt so I'll admit that I could be mistaken, but I'm a little leery of that one. Ulduar trash / AE packs might justify the increased AE damage, but +haste and in 3.1 -pushback, why wouldn't you take that?

    Actually looked again, that's a 3.0 calculator.

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    Careful as even the EJ link is Outdated, it said so on the top

    "Discontinued as of patch 3.09."
    "Peace is a lie"

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    Re: Balance spec?

    Personally I'll go for
    http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?drui...1&version=9767

    But if you're not going to raid, it doesn't matter much. Get decent gear and any mob should die in 3 starfires.

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    Re: Balance spec?

    Quote Originally Posted by Panoramixe
    Personally I'll go for
    http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?drui...1&version=9767

    But if you're not going to raid, it doesn't matter much. Get decent gear and any mob should die in 3 starfires.
    I really hope that is not a raid spec.

    You dont have Intensity OR Dreamstate. Enjoy going out of mana on most boss fights within the first 2 minutes.

    You have Gale Winds. Largely useless in almost all boss encounters.

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    Re: Balance spec?

    Gonna try

    http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?drui...0&version=9767

    If the Mana nerf isnt so bad, gonna move 2 points of Moonglow for Imp Moonfire.


    edit
    Copied the wrong link LOL

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    You mention dreamstate for a raiding spec :?

    No decent moonkin goes oom in a raiding environment. Most of your mana regen comes from moonkin form (crits) and replenishment. The very minor mana regen buffs you get from talents are not worth sacrificing dps for ... most raiding moonkins agree on this.

    As for gale winds, it speeds up trash and is nice for the few boss fights that require aoe .. if you really need mana regen use those two points in intensity.

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    Re: Balance spec?

    http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?drui...0&version=9767

    thats what im gonna be running, only 3/3 moonglow for mana regen iv tested all the US boss's and didnt have any mana problems so this is a small insurance. I might however dual spec a regen heavy spec for ol yoggy if he does end up being 10+ min fight.

    [edit] @Panoramixe dont forget we will be losing 7-8% crit once you replace your first piece of t7 our mana regen MIGHT be lowered and with the length of some ulduar boss's we may need a regen talent.

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    Re: Balance spec?

    Pano is right..

    For Moonkin talents that affect their mana, the Order goes..

    Omen of Clarity -> Intensity -> Moonglow -> Dreamstate



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    Re: Balance spec?

    remember, Imp moonfire does not stack with the IMf glyph. would suggest putting the 2 points into something else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by revasky
    http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?drui...0&version=9767

    thats what im gonna be running, only 3/3 moonglow for mana regen iv tested all the US boss's and didnt have any mana problems so this is a small insurance. I might however dual spec a regen heavy spec for ol yoggy if he does end up being 10+ min fight.

    [edit] @Panoramixe dont forget we will be losing 7-8% crit once you replace your first piece of t7 our mana regen MIGHT be lowered and with the length of some ulduar boss's we may need a regen talent.
    Brambles? If you want mana, Get Intensity.

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    Do you relize how much damage trees do with brambles? and now with the aoe avoidence they get coupled with the length of ulduar fights you get 2-3 of them off in a fight, so yes brambles. Its either 3/3 moonglow or 1/3moonglow and 2/2 imp moonfire.

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    Treants will be about 5% of your total damage max, 15% bonus is still less than 1% for three points. You're better off with improved moonfire then; I haven't heard anything about it not stacking with the glyph btw ... wouldn't make sense tbh both bonusses count for the dot too.

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    Re: Balance spec?

    Quote Originally Posted by revasky
    Do you relize how much damage trees do with brambles?
    You got the math? or just guessing cuz you saw treants do lil more dmg and automatically concluded its better dps over time.. You also said 3/3 moonglow for mana regen, If your short on Mana, You chose Moonglow over Intensity?

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    Re: Balance spec?

    A dps increase is a dps increse no matter how small, i normally have 2/2 imp moonfire and only 1/3 moonglow but losing the 5% crit from mages i decided to try it. I used both specs in my ptr testing and never got below half mana in a 25 man. However in our 10 man iron council hard mode kill i did go oom useing a spec without regen talents.

    @ gankero i didnt chose moonglow over intensity you need the points to get to the next tier in balance i alrdy said that its either 3/3 moonglow or 1/3 moonglow and 2/2 imp moonfire.

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    I would really like somebody to verify that the glyph and talent for moonfire don't stack. I can't imagine how it would be justified that they don't stack, since they do two entirely different things.

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    Re: Balance spec?

    http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?drui...00000000000000

    I think this is what I'm gonna roll with.

    I have never really done Moonkin before, so if anyone has any feedback about it, like whether not taking Typhoon and Starfall is a bad idea, lemme know! I'm balance nub.

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