So, having some priesty issues

[Riltia]

I've been playing priest for... I'd say at least 8 months now. I've gotten to 80, and been dragged into Naxx 10/25. My healing has been fairly good, from what I've been told. At least, to the point of showing up another guild.

But, I'm having some serious issues. I'm finding myself OOM a lot, and I have a large issue with spike healing/panic healing. I've been stacking haste now, getting Greater Heal to ~2.13s cast time.

This is a mock up of my talents and glyphs :
http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?prie...5&version=9868

Now, when raiding I'm often put on raid healing due to taking CoH. I've never, ever taken Lightwell (I see it as pointless, to be honest. Or at least, my talents are best spent elsewhere).

Unbuffed, my stats are :
1018 Int, 718 Spirit, 719 Stamina.
1892 Spell Power, 13.26% Holy Crit, 361 Haste Rating, 485 MP5 not casting, 293 MP5 during casting.

Armory :
http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...27tar&n=Riltia

I know Girdle of Bane is a DPS item, but my guildies made me take it (massive upgrade, plus no other clothies wanted it). It, along with the shoes, are on my to-replace list.

Any and all help is appreciated, thanks!

[Venara]

I usually don't do this....buuuut:

Your talent build sucks. You don't have Holy Concentration, no wonder you're having mana issues. If you want to be holy, then don't spend more than 14 points in discipline.

Also, you have bad enchants on:

Head
Chest
Feet

+ you Meta gem is bad. Go for IED.
+ Holy needs spirit (thus HC), your spirit is very low.

Don't EVER take Silent Resolve. You shouldn't have any aggro issues.

[darkdestiny]

um yeah that talent tree is horrible and glyphs. I would do something like
http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?prie...6&version=9868

I haven't been healing very long on my priest (used to be shadow but quit) but even a noob can tell you something is wrong with the spec you picked.

[Riltia]

I usually don't do this....buuuut:

Your talent build sucks. You don't have Holy Concentration, no wonder you're having mana issues. If you want to be holy, then don't spend more than 14 points in discipline.

Also, you have bad enchants on:

Head
Chest
Feet

+ you Meta gem is bad. Go for IED.
+ Holy needs spirit (thus HC), your spirit is very low.

Don't EVER take Silent Resolve. You shouldn't have any aggro issues.

The boot enchant isn't a worry of mine. I'm hoping to replace them at some point. I've got my eye on the ones from HC Nexus (from the commander).
Could you suggest better enchants for the head and chest? I (personally) thought the Revered WRA head enchant was quite good. I'm working on SoH rep for the shoulder enchants, too.

Will take a look for the meta too.

Thanks both for your advice, and I'll look at that talent tree.

[Lacramosa]

I've been playing a priest for 2 years+ now and I have a talent build extremely similar to this, but with a few tweeks, which has been tested in 10/25 nax, VOA and OS (and works lol):

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?prie...6&version=9868

It misses out all the bells and whistles from both trees in my opinion, and gives a good strong and versatile healing spec. You need to stack spirit like crazy and make sure you have enough mp5. Holy concentration is a must to increase your mana regen, otherwise you will go out of mana very quickly.
Healers dont really have rotations, but stack serendipty to 3 and try to keep it stacked for the mega quick greater heals (think mine with 3 stacks are down to a 1.2second cast, though that might be with egg trinket as well). With around 2.1k bonus healing you can crack out a 15k crit greater heal, perfect for those panic moments =) Cast CoH whenever off cooldown, as this has a great chance of giving you surge of light, giving a free instant flash heal, saving mana and great heals =)

Despite what people have said in this thread, it does work very well as a raid healing spec and as a single target healer.

Hope that helps =)

[nowimnothing30]

http://elitistjerks.com/f77/t54618-w...craft_dargons/

this is a great read on holy and disc healing/gear/enchants/gems/chants

[dahighpriest]

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?prie...3&version=9868

I've been playing Priest since WoW's release. I like Discipline ALOT more than holy. The reason being is peneance, and all of the nifty little buffs to your PW:S.

I put 3 points into silent resolve, beacuse Inner Fire is just not worth it. Hey, 30% less chance of dispelling, pretty good for a talent filler.

[Xelaeno]

I put 3 points into silent resolve, beacuse Inner Fire is just not worth it. Hey, 30% less chance of dispelling, pretty good for a talent filler.

Are you talking about pvp? Because who is there to dispel your heals in pve raids? And I hope you do realize that Improved Inner Fire gives you 54 extra spellpower from your Inner Fire buff.

[syanid]

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?prie...3&version=9868

I've been playing Priest since WoW's release. I like Discipline ALOT more than holy. The reason being is peneance, and all of the nifty little buffs to your PW:S.

I put 3 points into silent resolve, beacuse Inner Fire is just not worth it. Hey, 30% less chance of dispelling, pretty good for a talent filler.

With 3 points in inner fire you get more spelldamage. Disc is about spelldamage. If it's pvp what you're talking about then it's arguable, but Silent Resolve is useless for pve.

Hybrid specs without any juicy talents can cut it for naxx / os / malygos pugs, but for higher end raiding they're not as good as deep holy / disc specs.

[nowimnothing30]

With 3 points in inner fire you get more spelldamage. Disc is about spelldamage. ... but Silent Resolve is useless for pve.

^^^ that

"Inner Fire Rank 9
2400 Armor
120 Spellpower
20 Charges

Improved Inner Fire 3/3
3538 Armor (+1138 from talents)
174 Spellpower (+54 from talents)
32 Charges (+12 from talents)"

[Xelaeno]

I recommend you go deep holy rather than half discipline. Of course you can still heal fine as you said with your current spec but 3/3 Enlightenment is just not worth it. I have seen this kind of spec before patch 3.1, back when Improved Divine Spirit is still in the books. That's when discipline actually offers something for holy, a spirit buff and 80 spellpower. But now, with the discipline tree revamped, you are forced to waste points on fillers before getting down to the talents that actually benefit you.

Think of it this way, you have problems with mana reg and heals landing too slow. One way to fix this is to stack mana reg via spirit and speed up your casting through haste. However, a better option is to simply go deep enough into the holy tree to increase your overall healing numbers. Stronger heals means less healing casted, which in turn means less mana used or less mana reg required. You said you have problems with spike damage/panic moments. Test of Faith, Guardian Spirit, and Serendipity are there to help you deal with those moments.

14/57/0

I recommend replacing Glyph of Spirit of Redemption with Glyph of Flash Heal.

You said you are primarily a raid healer so I would advice you to take Serendipity over Empowered Renew.

Oh and stack spirit like crazy, you will need a lot more than you have now to be fully functional as holy. Aim for 900+

[syanid]

I'd take 3/3 Healing Focus for Ulduar and drop Divine Fury to get 3/3 Empowered Renew too and points for 3/3 Healing Focus.

[Riltia]

I'm not at the Ulduar stage yet, so I'm not too bothered about that.

I've tried a new spec, and I seem to OOM less and my healing still seems fine.

Getting used to Serendipity though!

[Izenhart]

Go for a standard 14/57/0, drop Silent Resolve, Enlightment and Mental Strenght get Holy Concentration, Serendipity, Empowered Renew, Divine Providence and GS, take the glyph of GS and the glyph of Flash Heal and you're fixed.

[Worshaka]

Lets make the assumption you are going to specialise in raid heals (which is usually the case for holy priests) and because you're still learning lets not do anything too advanced.

I'd highly recommend this spec, it's quite high on mana efficiency and gives you all the tools to heal multiple people quickly and effectively.

Note the glyph changes, Glyph of Flash Heal is an absolute must, most holy priests are reporting a large proportion of their healing is comming from that spell, particularly since they rarely MT heal... that alone will save you a ton of mana. I was never a fan of glyph of imp death... why are you dying? And if you don't die (which is the goal) how is that glyph helping you? The 3rd glyph is a bit of personal choice, I like PoH but Renew or Guardian Spirit are good choices as well. As I assumed you are specialising in raid heals I think PoH edges out the competition.

Note there is only 1 point in SoL... you can check www.elitistjerks.com for the numbers but 1 point is plenty to proc the talent enough. When use PoH, CoH, PoM it will go through enough targets that there is little to distinguish a 25% chance form 50%.

When you get more advanced the high level priests are reporting there is 0 need for divine fury, meaning you can pick up spell warding (which is only useful in Uld)... there are also some priests that are picking up Body & Soul as there are a few encounters in Uld where quick movement is a real plus... I don't suggest you get these talents until you are doing that content and you are well and truly more advanced than you are now.

[Zeelian]

um yeah that talent tree is horrible and glyphs. I would do something like
http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?prie...6&version=9868

I haven't been healing very long on my priest (used to be shadow but quit) but even a noob can tell you something is wrong with the spec you picked.

Pretty basic build, but id remove lightwell and take 3/3 inspiration, and serendipidy instead of ToF

[syanid]

I just find it odd how no one suggested 2/2 Healing Focus, as if you've never been bothered by pushback. If a holy priest raid heals, what's the point in maxing out Divine Fury?
The OP said he's not in Ulduar yet so the suggested buld is alright for previous content, but still - if you don't cast Gheal very often and if it's not the crucial spell - why not take Healing Focus and leave Divine Fury at 3/5? In the end, if you raid heal all you do is coh / poh / flash heal / renew. You can, of course, argue that you heal with Gheal often but it's unlikely to be used when there's a lot of raid damage (Mimiron, XT).

[Riltia]

I thought I'd report back.

I took my spec into Naxx 10, and it did fine. As usual, I OOM'd on Patchwerk, but otherwise I seemed fine. Serendipity is quite good, and I'm finding myself turning into more of a FH priest instead of a GH priest.

I'd like to thank everyone for the constructive advice, and keep it coming

EDIT : Wor, could you try create a link to that spec again please? I keep getting the same spec as I posted for some reason.

[Sarkli]

I've been playing Priest since WoW's release. I like Discipline ALOT more than holy. The reason being is peneance, and all of the nifty little buffs to your PW:S.

I put 3 points into silent resolve, beacuse Inner Fire is just not worth it. Hey, 30% less chance of dispelling, pretty good for a talent filler.

So then playing a priest since WoW's conception and knowing your class well must mean you know that Inner Fire gives you 174sp w/ 3 points into it, and 174sp is nothing to just 'pass up'.

[Worshaka]

I thought I'd report back.

I took my spec into Naxx 10, and it did fine. As usual, I OOM'd on Patchwerk, but otherwise I seemed fine. Serendipity is quite good, and I'm finding myself turning into more of a FH priest instead of a GH priest.

I'd like to thank everyone for the constructive advice, and keep it coming

EDIT : Wor, could you try create a link to that spec again please? I keep getting the same spec as I posted for some reason.

I obviously had a brain snap... try this.