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    demonology PTR OPness?

    on the ptr with full resil my lil gnome demonologist has 55% damage reduction 100% of the time. and 1900 spell power
    most times i can just drain tank people(rogues expesialy, its amazing)
    i have a feeling itll get nerfed or come live 3v3 teams will b gettin turtled to death by demo lock disc priest rogue

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    Re: demonology PTR OPness?

    Here's the problem face a caster or someone who can put out magic damage and heal and your done plus don't get your hopes up if you come up vs a priest rogue who can't just burn you down the priest will just go crazy with mana burn and make you tap yourself to death or make your damage output drop to zero.

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    Re: demonology PTR OPness?

    Your 55% damage reduction is equivalent to wearing plate. Not quite as OP as you're making it out to be.

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    Re: demonology PTR OPness?

    Why would a priest waste his mana burning a warlock? Isn't that scuicide?

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    Re: demonology PTR OPness?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gerian
    Your 55% damage reduction is equivalent to wearing plate. Not quite as OP as you're making it out to be.
    wearing plate + fears + deathcoil + fg intercep + dots + spamming searing pain when not focused is pretty damn good imo

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    Re: demonology PTR OPness?

    op that's why no one play demo in arena,no one like win easy and they prefer suffer with destro or affly

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    Re: demonology PTR OPness?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gerian
    Your 55% damage reduction is equivalent to wearing plate. Not quite as OP as you're making it out to be.
    ye but this plate guy has another pet, ranged attacks and has decent cc

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    Re: demonology PTR OPness?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gerian
    Your 55% damage reduction is equivalent to wearing plate. Not quite as OP as you're making it out to be.
    Gee I wish I had some of that magical plate of yours that mitigates spell damage as well.

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    Re: demonology PTR OPness?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gerian
    Your 55% damage reduction is equivalent to wearing plate. Not quite as OP as you're making it out to be.
    A cloth wearer with the equivalent of plate isnt OP? Dunno what game you play. Anyway, I haven't heard any talk about demonology yet, but I'll try it out. Gotta xfer my warlock and see whats crackin. I'd say its about time demonology gets some playing time though, considering that it's been basically useless ever since wrath launched, which is actually pretty ridiculous when you think about it.

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    Re: demonology PTR OPness?

    Quote Originally Posted by Agroculture
    Gee I wish I had some of that magical plate of yours that mitigates spell damage as well.
    This ^

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    Re: demonology PTR OPness?

    Quote Originally Posted by bowflexinbrah
    i can just drain tank people(rogues expesialy, its amazing)
    With all the interrupts around i find draintanking a bit hard, expecially rogues.

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    Re: demonology PTR OPness?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chronalis
    TBH, resi ruined the whole PvP system enough already. Now Blizzard have just gone overboard.
    yeah, reducing burst so people don't get faceroll 3 shot is bad. bring back 1shotting people in bgs with 0 res! the days of skill pvp!
    why do i have a feeling you can't break 1500 in arena.

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    Re: demonology PTR OPness?

    Unless a demonology warlock can shadowbolt or incinerate. His damage won't be high.

    It's fine. Demonology DoTs suck at level 80 standards.


    It's the melee's fault he isn't interrupting your drain life and gets his ass kicked.

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    Re: demonology PTR OPness?

    Can the OP do the math for us? ???

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    Re: demonology PTR OPness?

    Quote Originally Posted by patrin
    yeah, reducing burst so people don't get faceroll 3 shot is bad. bring back 1shotting people in bgs with 0 res! the days of skill pvp!
    why do i have a feeling you can't break 1500 in arena.
    Why do I have a feeling noone you know likes you or that you failed English?
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    Re: demonology PTR OPness?

    Assume a 10k normal hit

    10k - 10% Resilience = 9k
    9k - 6% Molten Skin = 8460
    8460 - 20% Armor = 6768
    6768 - 5% Master Demonologist + Felguard = 6430
    6430 - 25% Glyphed Soul Link = 4822

    4822 / 10000 = 52% Damage Reduction all the time (Physical, for magic factor armor out.)

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    Re: demonology PTR OPness?

    This is great.
    If it stays like this i might get to play my lock again
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    Re: demonology PTR OPness?

    Quote Originally Posted by gherkin
    Assume a 10k normal hit

    10k - 10% Resilience = 9k
    9k - 6% Molten Skin = 8460
    8460 - 20% Armor = 6768
    6768 - 5% Master Demonologist + Felguard = 6430
    6430 - 25% Glyphed Soul Link = 4822

    4822 / 10000 = 52% Damage Reduction all the time (Physical, for magic factor armor out.)
    Intruiging.

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    Re: demonology PTR OPness?

    Quote Originally Posted by gherkin
    Assume a 10k normal hit

    10k - 10% Resilience = 9k
    9k - 6% Molten Skin = 8460
    8460 - 20% Armor = 6768
    6768 - 5% Master Demonologist + Felguard = 6430
    6430 - 25% Glyphed Soul Link = 4822

    4822 / 10000 = 52% Damage Reduction all the time (Physical, for magic factor armor out.)
    please for the love of god add some disclaimers to this post befor the "omg locks are op must nerf qq" begins.

    The resil reduction applies to all classes so if a lock is specd deep demo which we will only like see in 5s with higher ratings I'd bet, the spec ang globs amount to about 47% reduction. And if this were the case the burst and raw dps will be lacking. I know you probably weren't going for that but I'd like to at least see a live patch before more nerf locks threads show up.
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    Re: demonology PTR OPness?

    Quote Originally Posted by gherkin
    Assume a 10k normal hit

    10k - 10% Resilience = 9k
    9k - 6% Molten Skin = 8460
    8460 - 20% Armor = 6768
    6768 - 5% Master Demonologist + Felguard = 6430
    6430 - 25% Glyphed Soul Link = 4822

    4822 / 10000 = 52% Damage Reduction all the time (Physical, for magic factor armor out.)
    Oh hai Gherkin! =D

    So your math is interesting however what I want to know is if you think rolling with Demon Armor (that's the only way you can get 20% physical damage reduction) is wise/going to work?

    The reason I ask is because with global damage reduced by ~10% (I'm guessing most people will have enough resilience to accommodate this) won't Warlocks need Fel Armor to keep their pew pew on par? Especially now that Shadow Priests and Mages will get an "MS" debuff effect.

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