Rate The Retribution Paladin Above You!

[Ronark]

Yeah, the NMT is only there because I use that weap for arenas and it's the only slot I can stick a NMT in.

I've seen you tell other people to drop Divine Intellect and take HL + UF, but 377 mana! It's not alot but it changes the threshhold for when I need to Plea. It isn't really gamebreaking, but for some 10man set ups, it can actually help. The only time I have found myself having to FoL with my AoW proc's was on Anub25HC progress where I would FoL the PC, but other then that I rarely drop a global to Flash. And I can't think of any fights where UF would come in handy considering I'm human so always have a pvp trinket.

True, sometimes the healing from FoL or HL isnt needed, but on specific fights UF is worth a lot more DPS than Divine Int is, moreso since EMfH is a 2 minute cooldown.

[Rlyskilled]

Above - Just simply curious as to why you chose to keep the agi based ring from the quest line. I know you will get more crit, which is something I'm trying to work towards myself. But it is some what of a substantial atk power loss.


I've noticed a lot of rets going with leather, as it is BiS right now. I guess I'm just trying to prep for 4.0 and avoiding it for now. Maybe if all others pass I may off spec it.


Quick note - Just got the cloak. Rumor has it, enchanting haste is actually better then agi now?

But this is what I'm sporting.
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...cn=S%C3%B9ntzu

If you look between BiS lists that are compiled by people that do maths better than I do you will see that an "all items" BiS list that includes leather only beats a "plate priority" list by around 200 DPS. You also have to take into account that there are only a handful of ret paladins that will even see every item on their BiS wishlist (especially if it includes leather, unless your guild doesn't care about proficiencies). There are some agility pieces that are better and if you can pick them up, all the power to you to do so. Agility pieces have 5 stats as compared to plate with 4 stats, and agility will give you crit and scale with buffs (like BoK), unlike straight crit rating.

23 haste beats 22 agility by a few DPS when you have your t10 4set, yes.

tl;dr Don't worry if you don't get leather over rouge and durid. It isn't a game-breaking difference. But it is better, sometimes.

[Prometheous]

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...ath+is+Eternal

Very nice, 9/10.
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...cn=Prometheous

[Squalion]

Very nice, 9/10.
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...cn=Prometheous

Personally, I'd remove Glyph of Excorsism, and take up consecretion - give's you a spare GCD/2Seconds -

I think the DPS gain from GoE is very small compared to taking Consecretion and having it last 2 second's longer.

Would try to replace the DMC:G with one of the other STR upgrades (Toc 25 - ICC 25) (that's obvious though)

Another personal preference, Ashen Verdict STR ring > AGI ring

Oh, last thing, get Libram of the three truths.

overall, v.nice though 8/10

Me -
http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...mer&cn=Magnate

Currently trying to get one of the two ICC 25/10 Expertise rings, as i just replace T9 Legs with leg guards of ascension - and lost alot of expertise.

also trying to replace my encrusted scorpion, have the icc legplates (craftable) soon - have 95 badges (frost) so getting frost chest next, then replacing shoulders + helm for 2PT10

WTB new rings + Trinkets

p.s, I do not, and will never use leather - Plate for life!

[crabmousse]

Personally, I'd remove Glyph of Excorsism, and take up consecretion - give's you a spare GCD/2Seconds -

I think the DPS gain from GoE is very small compared to taking Consecretion and having it last 2 second's longer.

Would try to replace the DMC:G with one of the other STR upgrades (Toc 25 - ICC 25) (that's obvious though)

Another personal preference, Ashen Verdict STR ring > AGI ring

Oh, last thing, get Libram of the three truths.

overall, v.nice though 8/10

Me -
http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...mer&cn=Magnate

Currently trying to get one of the two ICC 25/10 Expertise rings, as i just replace T9 Legs with leg guards of ascension - and lost alot of expertise.

also trying to replace my encrusted scorpion, have the icc legplates (craftable) soon - have 95 badges (frost) so getting frost chest next, then replacing shoulders + helm for 2PT10

WTB new rings + Trinkets

p.s, I do not, and will never use leather - Plate for life!

well, you took the worst possible frost upgrades really, the cloak is dogshit, the belt is worthless for you since you're overcapped on it. you should and could have had two parts T10 by now.

emming wise, you don't need the 10str 15sta gem since you have a nightmare tear in your chest, but you should move that nightmare tear somewhere you're going to get a socket bonus out of it.

you have way too much armor pen and are actually close to softcapped with the trinket. it's a pretty rotten stat, you should get the Emblem of Heroism trinket, Mirror of Truth, and fork out for a Darkmoon Card: Greatness as your two current trinkets are just awful. if you don't have the gold for DMC, farm Utgarde Pinnacle heroic for Meteoric Whetstone as I'm pretty sure even that's better than what you have.

don't worry about expertise so much, it's not as good as other stats, if you can pick up expertise cap from gear then do so but don't aim for it. dunno why you're talking about it as you're close to cap with glyph anyway.

not going to rate you out of 10, you're on the right track, you just need to ignore gearscore and whether an item is leather or plate and start looking for stuff thats good for you.

here's mine: http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...ar&cn=Milkytea

[ErickG]

here's mine: http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...ar&cn=Milkytea

Not much to say here
Replace mirror obvious
Replace PVP belt obvious
gems look good
Definetly on the right track

Here's mine http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...Hyjal&cn=Errck
I keep switching between ashen rings.
got Gendarme's Cuirass in the bank but not sure if i should use it now.

[Aivy]

http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...n&cn=A%C3%ADvy

Here's my amorylink.

Need some advice where to improve myself. (gearwise!) Just hit 60 frost badges so can either get the t10 shoulders or gloves, but have no idea what to choose?

Running heroics only as I havent been able to get into any raids yet, except for weekly's, because of the scary amount of players on the server who uses GS But I reckon my gear should be enough for ToC25 levels or?

Thanks!

[ErickG]

http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...n&cn=A%C3%ADvy

Here's my amorylink.

Need some advice where to improve myself. (gearwise!) Just hit 60 frost badges so can either get the t10 shoulders or gloves, but have no idea what to choose?

Running heroics only as I havent been able to get into any raids yet, except for weekly's, because of the scary amount of players on the server who uses GS But I reckon my gear should be enough for ToC25 levels or?

Thanks!

I would go for the shoulders get the crafted bracers belt of the titans and the battlelord boots that will become much cheaper today
And yes you should be able to get into TOC25.

[Prometheous]

Another personal preference, Ashen Verdict STR ring > AGI ring

Just saying, you're personal opinions dont maximize dps =) The AGI ring is overall better for ret paladins, granted stacking all agi and crit isnt a good idea but a good ratio of the two is best.

[Anthe]

Since the last person didn't post his armoy i'll go ahead

http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...ndoun&cn=Anthe

It's my offspec since i'm usually tanking in my guild. But I also go ret for progress bosses where the other two tanks ain't as geared as me dps wise.

Know I have to much expertise, working on it Hopefully i'll get some gear on Thursday.

[Kilisk]

For having ret as an offspec your gear is pretty good


I would pick up the 50 ap enchant for bracers instead of the 38ap one you have

If your hurting on expertise, i would drop the glyph of concecration and pickup the glyph of seal of vengence so you only need 16 expertise for boss fights before you put up your seal

9/10

Edit: forgot armory link :P

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...ther&cn=Kilisk

[Adamson]

Trinket and neck need to be replaced. Your weapon is pretty sub-par. I can only assume you've had bad luck on drops.

7/10

Professions are both terrible.

[Sike]

http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...+Tiras&cn=Sike

seeing as the person above me didnt post a link, im not sure what to say :P

[baddetiger]

Since the guy above me didnt link his, im just gonna post mine:

http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...zar&cn=Rection

[blahblu]

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...alaran&cn=Lith

did a few big updates to em, and I also wanted to know if the t10 2 piece set is worth the stats on my 264 gloves? I'll have enough emblems for the gloves tomorrow but I don't know if I wanna get the the gloves or wait for the helm. Suggestions?

[Rlyskilled]

Since the guy above me didnt link his, im just gonna post mine:

http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...zar&cn=Rection

Your trinkets make my eyes bleed bloody tears...

[Thellais]

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...alaran&cn=Lith

did a few big updates to em, and I also wanted to know if the t10 2 piece set is worth the stats on my 264 gloves? I'll have enough emblems for the gloves tomorrow but I don't know if I wanna get the the gloves or wait for the helm. Suggestions?

Well, you will eventually want to go for the 4piece t10, but as to which pieces to get and when, really depends on what items you have now. Problem i see now, is youll probably have to wait until you can get the 264 ilvl tier pieces in order for them to be much of an upgrade, but that's just my opinion.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...re&cn=Thellais

Thats me, finally got 4 piece t10 and got lucky on the helm, and now with lots of frost and no clue what to get : /

[Rlyskilled]

Well, you will eventually want to go for the 4piece t10, but as to which pieces to get and when, really depends on what items you have now. Problem i see now, is youll probably have to wait until you can get the 264 ilvl tier pieces in order for them to be much of an upgrade, but that's just my opinion.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...re&cn=Thellais

Thats me, finally got 4 piece t10 and got lucky on the helm, and now with lots of frost and no clue what to get : /

I would suggest the Vengeful Noose (leather belt from badges) to drop some hit rating.

[Eldredd]

Last time I posted in this thread I got awesome advice so I'm giving it another shot

This is more or less a sanity check to make sure I'm not making any really stupid mistakes before I start raiding with this toon.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...r&cn=Belmaliel

Things to note:

1. Harpoon is sitting in my bank but I'm 7HR over cap right now and can't see a reason to use it.
2. I know my trinkets suck. I'm working on a greatness deck right now and hope to get my last 3 cards before the fair is back.

[Kheen]

Last time I posted in this thread I got awesome advice so I'm giving it another shot

This is more or less a sanity check to make sure I'm not making any really stupid mistakes before I start raiding with this toon.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...r&cn=Belmaliel

Things to note:

1. Harpoon is sitting in my bank but I'm 7HR over cap right now and can't see a reason to use it.
2. I know my trinkets suck. I'm working on a greatness deck right now and hope to get my last 3 cards before the fair is back.

I wouldn't normally suggest this, but I'd pick up the HWT before any tier 10. I would also pick up the tier 9 helm, to give you 4pc T9. Whilst the bonus isn't good, it means you can grab the "quick" 2pc tier 10, shoulders and gauntlets. This runs you into hit issues, which can be replaced by the rep ring. This runs you into a light expertise issue, luckily the first boss in ToC drops bracers with expertise, which I would suggest. I doubt you'd replace those for a while.

If you didn't want to worry about hit issues, pick up the tier10 chest plate for 2pc asap. Your necklace is interesting, Festergut 10m drops a really nice agility necklace, it has hit/haste IIRC, which once again runs you into hit issues, allowing you to drop that other ring. There is a ring from Saurfang 10m that is agi crit/haste.

Also, the frost badge belt, whilst it isn't perfect, would be a major upgrade for you. Boots that drop off Anub in ToC 25m are also a brilliant upgrade as it keeps your expertise rating up after dropping the ring/belt. Bryntroll is very easily obtainable, which would be my weapon suggestion to you.

Lets get some better advice for this guy:
http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...zar&cn=Rection