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[4liv3]

I'm Tolsimir on Malygos-US (owned by the link restriction)

I'm CTC capped under full raid buffs with 1 stam and 1 mastery trinket. Well over cap passively with 2 mastery trinkets. Anyone notice a lot more gear seems to be itemized with parry than dodge nowadays?

Raid team is taking a break from progression for the holidays, so I don't foresee many upgrades until next month =\

Edit: Secondary spec is PVP, disregard it lol

Overall it looks good to me. I chose the Gigantiform Bracers instead for the extra mastery but if you are CTC capped that isn't really an issue.

You really should try to even out your parry and dodge though, they should be closer to each other. Re-reforge your chest, bracers and Queen's Boon for example.

Your spec leaves some question marks for me though. Why would you choose to have 2 points in Reckoning but only 1 point in Grand Crusader? The GC proc gives you 1 holy power while the Reckoning proc just gives you a normal melee swing.
The movement increase from Pursuit of Justice seems like a better choice than Judgements of the Pure aswell. That is more of a personal choice though.

But a 8/10 from me

http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...orrak/advanced
That's my paladin. Don't forget to add the 880 dodge I get from my trinket. And I know that my leg gems are weird but I got a Deepholm Iolite and they went for nothing at AH so I used it to get the socket bonus

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http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...orrak/advanced
That's my paladin. Don't forget to add the 880 dodge I get from my trinket. And I know that my leg gems are weird but I got a Deepholm Iolite and they went for nothing at AH so I used it to get the socket bonus

Decent, but remember that we get ~200 parry rating from raid buffs, so you'll want the put that disparity in place when reforging (even with that thing that some call a trinket). Other than that, reforging is fine (I didn't check if you were CTC capped, I assume you are, with whichever alchemy/cooking buffs you use). Stamina gems are never a bad thing, especially when the most lethal stuff in dragon soul is magical, or not avoidable (Tenatus/void bolt/Blackhorn's roar, etc)

Oh, and whilst I notice it; Fix those professions! Even gathering ones are better than none at all.

Link is in my signature, or here: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...osion/advanced

I'd get my parry rating down, but it doesn't seem possible currently.

[4liv3]

Yeah I know about the raidbuff parry and I did check my CTC with kings up at least and that lands me at 102.44 avoidance right now. As for the professions, I know. I'm a lazy paladin

[puhtaterz]

eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...orrak/advanced
That's my paladin. Don't forget to add the 880 dodge I get from my trinket. And I know that my leg gems are weird but I got a Deepholm Iolite and they went for nothing at AH so I used it to get the socket bonus

Well two things come to my eye when looking over your character. My first question is do you find yourself add-tanking alot and is that your incentive for putting points into "Hallowed Ground" and second the only real thing i can see is you may want to close the gap that is between your parry/dodge.

us.battle.net/wow/en/character/chogall/Puhtaterz/advanced

I just came back to the game after a long break during Firelands any advice would be appreciated.
I alternate between Hallowed Ground and Guarded by the Light depending on my role and the fight.
XD i guess i cant post links yet...

[speeder]

Here is my mine I'm not ctc capped until in raid


http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...Speeder/simple

[puhtaterz]

Here is my mine I'm not ctc capped until I'm in raid
The main armory is not working atm Be nice lol

wowhead.com/profile=us.whisperwind.speeder

I tried to view your "wowhead" profile and it is as though your stats are really messed up.
It may just be me but if your actual wow armory comes up post and i will properly review.

[MorphexEU]

Here is my mine I'm not ctc capped until in raid


http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...Speeder/simple

There is not much to say, other then that the dodge trinket isn't really good for paladins. So I'd switch it out with a stamina trinket or another trinket with static avoidance / mitigation. And then re-gem so that you keep CTC but also gain more stamina.

[4liv3]

Well two things come to my eye when looking over your character. My first question is do you find yourself add-tanking alot and is that your incentive for putting points into "Hallowed Ground" and second the only real thing i can see is you may want to close the gap that is between your parry/dodge.

I do a lot, and I mean A LOT of dungeon tanking with my friends so that's the main reason really. And as for the parry/dodge gap, a gap of about 100 rating doesn't really seem that big to me, or is it? With my trinket I get 880 dodge rating which is up all the time during boss fights and that lands me on a dodge rating at about 2900 and with full raid buff my parry is at 3000 give or take 50 rating.

[sarraih]

cant post links yet....Diswena, kul tiras US.

im almost exclusively a 5 man tank...i may have logged out with a souldrinker equipped...was testing something. Usually i have the crafted BS sword.

[midview14]

Couldnt really rate you because your in ret gear. id guess since u have 7/10 ret gear you would have 7/10 or better tank gear.
Rate me be nice
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte.../Rawrka/simple

[Gracin]

I'm actually try to help a friend of mine out with his Prot paladin, but we've ran into a problem with him being at block cap(or so he says) and after reforging a ton of parry away, block and dodge are still not equal. Any help would be greatly appreciated. http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...epace/advanced

Oh and when helping, he said it would be possible for him to get the Valor relic this week which actually puts us in more of a bind because that gives him even more parry.

[sarraih]

Couldnt really rate you because your in ret gear. id guess since u have 7/10 ret gear you would have 7/10 or better tank gear.
Rate me be nice
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte.../Rawrka/simple

sorry here ya go

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...Diswena/simple

[puhtaterz]

sorry here ya go

us.battle.net/wow/en/character/kul-tiras/Diswena/simple

Not bad i would personally drop one of your stamina trinkets until you get CTC capped and pick up a mastery trinket even the one from TB would be good.

us.battle.net/wow/en/character/chogall/Puhtaterz/simple

any advice would be appreciated...
sorry cant post links yet though :/

[Larthin]

Not bad i would personally drop one of your stamina trinkets until you get CTC capped and pick up a mastery trinket even the one from TB would be good.

us.battle.net/wow/en/character/chogall/Puhtaterz/simple

any advice would be appreciated...
sorry cant post links yet though :/

The only things I can really find are your Hammer of the Righteous Glyph and Ascetic Crusader Glyph, as both are really poor choices for raiding. The suggestions I'd give for your Prime are WoG or Judgment for minor gains in absorption shields, and for your major a Glyph of Divine Shield, which is useful for every fight with the exception of Morchok.

Personally, I do not enjoy Hallowed Ground as a talent in favor of Guarded by the Light, as I don't have any issues aoe tanking and I enjoy 80k WoGs in raids, but if you prefer your current setup there's nothing really wrong with it.

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...aveenä/simple (ctc capped in raids)

[Ragu]

The only things I can really find are your Hammer of the Righteous Glyph and Ascetic Crusader Glyph, as both are really poor choices for raiding. The suggestions I'd give for your Prime are WoG or Judgment for minor gains in absorption shields, and for your major a Glyph of Divine Shield, which is useful for every fight with the exception of Morchok.

Personally, I do not enjoy Hallowed Ground as a talent in favor of Guarded by the Light, as I don't have any issues aoe tanking and I enjoy 80k WoGs in raids, but if you prefer your current setup there's nothing really wrong with it.

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...aveenä/simple (ctc capped in raids)

Your quoted person's choice of glyphs is perfectly fine. I would never raid, or do any single-target-based encounter without Ascetic Crusader. As for Prime, SeT + SotR are mandatory, always. Judgement is a much better choice than it used to be due to the absorb shield boost, but if he's AoE tanking, Hammer of the Righteous is irreplaceable as the third. I appreciate that you're providing constructive criticism, but it's not entirely correct.

[Aendorth]

Aendorth on Nagrand-US (Owned by link restriction)

[Deleted]

would love to get some input

can't link yet...

Akiraman on Vek'nilash - EU

[ceydan]

Just came back from a very extended break (Been gone since January) And trying to catch up in terms of stat choices, spec, glyphs etc
Thanks!

Ceydan - Vek'nilash - US
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...eydan/advanced

[Larthin]

Your quoted person's choice of glyphs is perfectly fine. I would never raid, or do any single-target-based encounter without Ascetic Crusader. As for Prime, SeT + SotR are mandatory, always. Judgement is a much better choice than it used to be due to the absorb shield boost, but if he's AoE tanking, Hammer of the Righteous is irreplaceable as the third. I appreciate that you're providing constructive criticism, but it's not entirely correct.

I MT without the AC glyph with no issues, since you have a 100% mana bar the entire time, reducing CS by 30% is completely unnecessary. As for the HotR glyph, if you're having issues with aoe tanking, then yes, it is acceptable, but by no means required. I haven't had the HotR glyph since before the threat buff, and really didn't need it then anyways. SoT and SotR glyphs may be mandatory before T13, but personally, I'll be dropping my SotR glyph for a judgment glyph when I get my 2p, since I've passed my tokens to dps for progression since my survivability isn't an issue.

As for passing insight others, since that's what this thread is about:
See what I wrote about the AC glyph, and you look well above ctc capped while in raids, either drop one of your trinkets for a stam trinket, or start gemming out of mastery for more stam. Other than that everything is solid, and that applies to both of you above.

@Ceydan: You snuck in as I was typing. Get rid of all the stam gems you have and follow the gemming procedure of Fine (parry/mastery) for Red sockets, Puissant (mastery/stam) for Blue, and Fractured (Mastery) for yellow and prismatic sockets. 102.4% ctc is your friend, which you get from adding your Dodge, Parry, Block, and base 5% miss chance together. Also, forge off threat stats (hit/expertise) for mastery, or avoidance if that piece already has mastery on it. As for your spec, the holy subspec was something that was acceptable waaaay back when T11 first started, your spec should look something like http://www.wowhead.com/talent#sZGMhcRkdRRucbG
I'd also drop Glyph of Dazing Shield, since it only has a small handful of uses outside of PvP, grab something more useful like LoH

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As for your spec, the holy subspec was something that was acceptable waaaay back when T11 first started, your spec should look something like http://www.wowhead.com/talent#sZGMhcRkdRRucbG

When was the holy subspec ever viable? I certainly wasn't running anything different to the standard spec back then, except for eternal glory instead of seals of the pure. Last word was just...eugh.

You don't appear to have a rate-able link, so not sure if you want rating or not :P

My link is in my signature.