BM spec, yes I'm asking it.

[chiper12]

Alright so, I've finished off leveling my hunter recently and really enjoy the use of BM. I could careless about exotic pets. (4 point bonus is lovely though) I know that BM is currently the red headed step child of raiding specs, but is there any viable ones out there for it?

Reason I like BM so much (Possibly reasons others like it?) is because of how much you buff your pet and vice versa.

Also, if possible could you give me tips on what gems I need to look for?

I'm not used to a hunter...

[Gaskal]

I am so sorry to say NO ! There is officially no viable BM spec in the game(live or PTR) for PvE.
Not only because your Max dps(when you are standing still and following your prio exactly) is lower than viable SV or MM specs but also because your pet is extremly likely to die on most boss encounters.
I am kinda pro at managing my pet but sometimes you can't do anything at all about him dying. And when your pet dies as BM you have officially lost 39% of your total dps which is already lower than what it should be.

As you said you have just dinged 80 I am not gonna suggest any MM builds though that is your ultimate spec when you are more geared.
So spec SV and gem agil to the fuckin end.
Actually this is how you shall gem :
Gem everything using the red agil gem ( yes. Ignore socket bonus) UNLESS :
1. You are lower than the 8% hit cap.
2. The socket bonus is Agi or ArP or hit(if not capped yet) and you need to gem a yellow for that.
Whatever you do don't gem blues.

you can also check caleb's SV guide at ensidia.com. I found that guide kinda useful for beginner hunters.

[Vongimi]

I am so sorry to say NO ! There is officially no viable BM spec in the game(live or PTR) for PvE.
Not only because your Max dps(when you are standing still and following your prio exactly) is lower than viable SV or MM specs but also because your pet is extremly likely to die on most boss encounters.
I am kinda pro at managing my pet but sometimes you can't do anything at all about him dying. And when your pet dies as BM you have officially lost 39% of your total dps which is already lower than what it should be.

As you said you have just dinged 80 I am not gonna suggest any MM builds though that is your ultimate spec when you are more geared.
So spec SV and gem agil to the fuckin end.
Actually this is how you shall gem :
Gem everything using the red agil gem ( yes. Ignore socket bonus) UNLESS :
1. You are lower than the 8% hit cap.
2. The socket bonus is Agi or ArP or hit(if not capped yet) and you need to gem a yellow for that.
Whatever you do don't gem blues.

you can also check caleb's SV guide at ensidia.com. I found that guide kinda useful for beginner hunters.

If your pet dies on a fight, you are bad. Theres like no fights these days that will kill your pet. Sarth and Mim are the only 2 that really have a chance at your pet dying. Anyways, @OP, this is like the billionth thread this week about "what should I gem, what should I enchant?", so not to be mean or anything, but seriously hit the search button or something.

But as a sidenote: the Devilsaur, an exotic pet, is best dps for BM atm.

[Kolonelkitten]

for bm raiding you should roll with a Devilsaur, it gives the most dps. If i were pve bm It'd look something like this: http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?hunt...i,O-8-q3,10623
i left out two points for what ever you need be it hit rating, invigoration, or what ever you like.

[Vongimi]

While last time I checked was only a few weeks ago, the best DPS spec for BM is

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?hunt...N,Oyt-q3,10623

[Cracka_Bob]

im sorry but no... this is the best spec

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?hunt...X,Oy8-q3,10623

and this is the best spec for "fluffy"

http://www.wowhead.com/?petcalc#cubz0scz0hoRb

rotation/priority:

kill shot > arcane shot > multi shot > serpent sting > steady

if serpent is about to run out but arcane and/or multi is available... use them before refreshing serpent

[Vongimi]

Oh hey ya, sry was modifying his spec so I didnt see the 5/5 frenzy, knew I had something off... But ya what the guy above me said.

[Tabu34]

I am so sorry to say NO ! There is officially no viable BM spec in the game(live or PTR) for PvE.
Not only because your Max dps(when you are standing still and following your prio exactly) is lower than viable SV or MM specs but also because your pet is extremly likely to die on most boss encounters.
I am kinda pro at managing my pet but sometimes you can't do anything at all about him dying. And when your pet dies as BM you have officially lost 39% of your total dps which is already lower than what it should be.

As you said you have just dinged 80 I am not gonna suggest any MM builds though that is your ultimate spec when you are more geared.
So spec SV and gem agil to the fuckin end.
Actually this is how you shall gem :
Gem everything using the red agil gem ( yes. Ignore socket bonus) UNLESS :
1. You are lower than the 8% hit cap.
2. The socket bonus is Agi or ArP or hit(if not capped yet) and you need to gem a yellow for that.
Whatever you do don't gem blues.

you can also check caleb's SV guide at ensidia.com. I found that guide kinda useful for beginner hunters.

This is not really all that true anymore, the difference between MM and SV at the highest levels is minimal, and the lower gear threshold for playing MM is lower than a lot of people think. Personally I'm a fan of SV, but I know either spec is raid viable.

[Malevolence]

If your pet dies on a fight, you are bad. Theres like no fights these days that will kill your pet. Sarth and Mim are the only 2 that really have a chance at your pet dying. Anyways, @OP, this is like the billionth thread this week about "what should I gem, what should I enchant?", so not to be mean or anything, but seriously hit the search button or something.

But as a sidenote: the Devilsaur, an exotic pet, is best dps for BM atm.

Pretty much this. You're absolutely terrible if your pet dies on any fight besides Mim (hard-mode), personally I think even sarth is easy. Unholy dk, but yea..a melee pet is a melee pet

[Clay]

I don't get why you would let your guild/raid down by not speccing to maximize your DPS. If I were a raidleader, I would NEVER invite someone who's not correctly specced.

[weshallarise]

If your pet dies on a fight, you are bad. Theres like no fights these days that will kill your pet. Sarth and Mim are the only 2 that really have a chance at your pet dying. Anyways, @OP, this is like the billionth thread this week about "what should I gem, what should I enchant?", so not to be mean or anything, but seriously hit the search button or something.

But as a sidenote: the Devilsaur, an exotic pet, is best dps for BM atm.

faction champs, heigan, KT, iron council, can all kill your pets if you arent paying attention.

[Vongimi]

faction champs, heigan, KT, iron council, can all kill your pets if you arent paying attention.

Oh, and try sarth with a devilsaur... lets see you survive THAT lava wall! Hes to big and literally cannot fit inbetween the walls, I even tried eyes of the beast to perfectly position him.... Its possible if he doesnt have either BW or Heroism up... but when he has both? Not even close to a chance

[Sim]

Oh, and try sarth with a devilsaur...

That is.. so incredibly easy to do..

Like most people say, it is all about how you control your pet.

I'll let you think about that for a moment, if you cannot figure out how to get your Devilsaur to avoid Flame Wall then you need to work on your pet control.

[Chrizesu]

Using femaledwarf.com I got better dps with this Spec

The biggest difference is that you never break Aspect of the Beast unless you oom.

And astonishingly I got 90 more dps then my current survival build.

[Vongimi]

That is.. so incredibly easy to do..

Like most people say, it is all about how you control your pet.

I'll let you think about that for a moment, if you cannot figure out how to get your Devilsaur to avoid Flame Wall then you need to work on your pet control.

Wow, you really are dumb. Its literally bigger then the hole at certain points, the pet grows so much in combat.

[Chrizesu]

Wow, you really are dumb. Its literally bigger then the hole at certain points, the pet grows so much in combat.

I thought that was fixed when they dabbed with pet scaling. Their hitboxes are smaller then bw size as well.

[Deleted]

http://www.mmo-champion.com/class-hu...ve-flow-chart/. Should help.
( I am joking and shamelessly hijacking this thread to further my own joke. Repent. )

[Vongimi]

I thought that was fixed when they dabbed with pet scaling. Their hitboxes are smaller then bw size as well.

Hmm... perhaps... I havent done it since the days where sarth+3 was srs business... Maybe the guy before just never did sarth till then. I remember my devilsaur would be able to attack the adds in phase 2 malygos, the ones that fly around. His hitbox was so big that he could reach them, but since he was meleeing them, for some reason the game wanted him at equal level with them... so therefore he would literally "fly" up and hover next to them, attacking them. Was pretty hilarous to see the flying dinosaur eating them.

[Knoobboy]

Im pretty sure they reduced the stacking size on Monsters Bite. At 3 stacks its like what 1 stack used to be. Tho BW and Hero/BL still make it incredabile huge

[Cracka_Bob]

my huge monster doesnt fit in sarth's tiny hole