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  1. #681
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    tbh should we rly care that the are doing this i mean fek it the money will only be use to further enhance upcomming game play of other game's the are making so be happy and still its a choice if ya want it bad enof ya can spare the 10 bucks it cost to get one

    ps only down side i find is that it creditcard only and not like how the dutch wow players can always pay true mothly payment of there bankaccount. i hope the add that to it as i rly love to get a damnd Lil Kt i mean it fucking wins

  2. #682

    Re: Introducing the Pet Store

    Quote Originally Posted by Vk
    Because I believe that people not buying these pets are better persons.
    Why? Because these people don't give in to commercialism trying to ass-rape them and their wallets, even if Activision currently only still is in the phase of getting his willy out and stroking it over your cheeks.

    That you're free to do with your money as you please, as you are, has nothing to do with it.
    And who are you to judge who's a good person and who's not?

    @Doden: Do whatever you think it's the best. The day they start selling stuff that actually improves gameplay is the day I quit. I deal with facts, not speculation.

    @Vk: Your example already exists, it's called TCG loot.
    I live in Brazil, they don't sell the TCG here. Taxes make TCG stuff triple the price it's supposed to be (when the simply conversion from USD from RS already doubles the price of it), plus the pricing of these stuff on eBay is outrageous. I'm not whining about it, I come up with terms and said to myself "yeah, I'm never going to have a Magic Rooster". I don't whine endlessly on forums (not official ones, mind you) about how US/Canadian players have an unfair advantage over me.

    Bottom line: They're the extremely successful business, not I. If they think it willl help increase their money gains, more power to them.

  3. #683
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    Quote Originally Posted by cuteyonly
    You think your guild mates will think you are cool? NO THEY WILL LAUGH AT YOU BEHIND YOUR BACK FOR BEING A DICK.
    And people who don't play MMO's think you are a retard for investing that much time in them and paying a monthly fee. So what ?

    Do i play to feel cool in the eyes of others ? I play because i have fun. I buy things because i have fun with them. What other people think about it is totally irrelevant.

  4. #684

    Re: Introducing the Pet Store

    Quote Originally Posted by cuteyonly
    Because you are contributing into turning the game exclusively into a cash cow, where getting in game objects will be solely defined by those who have in real life money and those who do not.

    It doesn't surprise me that you don't understand.

    There are some things in life that can not be bought.

    The sense of satisfaction when you achieve great things. Things like this should be rewarded. Killing a boss that took weeks to kill and working together as a team is a thing of beauty, something to cherish and remember how strong people working together as a team can be.

    Being able to buy the best pets in game, if successful, will lead to "buying the best gear in game for real life money".

    Pricks like you will just turn around and say "I work in real life job and can choose to buy best gear or not", while other people will say "uhm, whats the point of playing if you can just buy things".

    You contribute into turning the game into something even shitter.

    What you don't realise is, when you continue to throw your hard earned money into something in the game, people will just look at you and laugh. YOU DIDNT EARN IT. YOU JUST BOUGHT IT.

    You sound like a complete in real life prick though. Probably never seen a hard days work in your life, probably work for your daddy's company and just been able to buy anything you wanted.

    You have never seen what it's like to work in defying odds and come out the winner, you probably paid your way into your guild anyway without having any skills of any sense whatsoever.

    People like you are called FAT CATS.

    You are fat and ugly.

    Give Blizzard your money, contribute into making this game worse than it is. You can hang out with your rich prick friends. People like you didn't make this game good, you just helped make a great game turn shit.

    Just plain scum.
    Hahahaha,

    You are using an expression "fat cat" that is applied to members of the board of a bank, that earn hundreds of thousands a month... on people that earn maybe 20k-30k a year where they can afford a $10 virtual pet?

    If you are QQing that much, then i can only assume you are a jobless state benefit claimer living with his/her parents.. or homeless.

    And since you are able to have access to the internet, then i guess its not the latter.

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  6. #686

    Re: Introducing the Pet Store

    You have to realise that there will always be capitalism. I just ignore the shit, no need crying about it. The people who actually buy this crap are the same people walking around listening to the latest podcasts on their iphones, sipping Starbucks.

  7. #687

    Re: Introducing the Pet Store

    Quote Originally Posted by cuteyonly
    In short, you are a prick.

    You didn't help make this game good, you are helping to break it and make it shit.

    The people that are skilled in this game, don't give a shit about your real life job, your skill suck, but go ahead, buy your pet with your infinite real life wealth, you may have the pets, but you will always be a prick.
    I never said i have infinate wealth lol...

    I have a job, i put effort into that and i am rewarded in the form of real life monies that i can use to buy what i like.

    That doesn't mean i have no skill.

    I was in a guild that was 4th on Magtheridon-EU to down Yogg-Saron, check my characters achivement date if you wish (Ikkatsu - Tauren Druid - Magtheridon-EU).

    I think you are just butthurt about not being able to get your mom to buy you the pet, and are now trying to use "skill and achivement" as your arguement to why you deserve it for free.

    Link me your main characters armory so i can see your achievements and post a screenshot of your char saying "FUUU IKKATSU, I HATE YOU FAT CAT" so i can confirm its legitmacy.

    You won't, becuase you are a douche that has achieved nothing IRL or INGAME.

  8. #688

    Re: Introducing the Pet Store

    Quote Originally Posted by cuteyonly
    There are some things in life that can not be bought.

    The sense of satisfaction when you achieve great things. Things like this should be rewarded. Killing a boss that took weeks to kill and working together as a team is a thing of beauty, something to cherish and remember how strong people working together as a team can be.

    ***lots of whining about rich people***

    You are fat and ugly.

    Give Blizzard your money, contribute into making this game worse than it is. You can hang out with your rich prick friends. People like you didn't make this game good, you just helped make a great game turn shit.

    Just plain scum.
    Wow. You need to step outside this game. Honestly, I'm saying this for your own good. It's causing you real, serious issues. That's not an attempt at flaming you, it's a genuine, concerned call for you to take a long hard look at yourself... If you get this wound up about it and feel the need to be this abusive and insulting towards people who simply have a difference of opinion with you, you need to scale back.

    And for the reference, things in LIFE that can't be bought are falling in love, getting married, having your first kid, learning to speak Spanish, finally figuring out how to play Tiger Mountain Peasant Song on the guitar, oh, and consistently working 12-14 hour days and as a result earning over £100k in a year for the first time (yes, that's REAL work, not just fucking about in a game) and therefore having enough spare cash to buy these pets without even flinching, even though I won't do so (actually, I might buy the monk as it's for charidee).

    The things you mentioned aren't things in LIFE, they're things in a fricken COMPUTER GAME. You seem to be struggling to tell the difference...

  9. #689

    Re: Introducing the Pet Store

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikkatsu
    Hahahaha,

    You are using an expression "fat cat" that is applied to members of the board of a bank, that earn hundreds of thousands a month... on people that earn maybe 20k-30k a year where they can afford a $10 virtual pet?
    They are earning hundreds of thousands of pounds a month because people like you give them $10 for a pet.......

    For someone who claims to be in a good job, you don't seem very smart.

    In order to make the game better, you need to make Blizzard WORK at keeping their customers which means spending time into making the game GOOD.

    Grz on your new pet though, you have helped Blizzard to think that they can just keep selling in game items without actually putting any effort in to the actual game.

    Seriously, i'm not really sure what to say about the people's stupidity who want to play a good game, but then support the idea of not even allowing the game to be developed, but just to give Blizzard money for nothing while they give you shit in return.

    If you think paying for a pet is good value for money, and will help develop the game into a better game, i feel really sorry for you.
    It says ALOT about the type of person you are.
    And if you get pleasure in life from a pixel pet you paid $10 dollars for, it actually shows how sad and desperate you are in real life.

    Me personally are the type of person who likes to surround himself in quality things, quality games, quality people.

    I like to see talent, motivation, a sense of fulfillment.

    None of these things can be found, where the lazy path is taken.

    Buying a vanity pet is the lazy path for you, and it is helping Blizzard become a lazy company.

    There will always be talent and motivation to be found amongst people, sadly it is not with the World of Warcraft community, it is for untalented, lazy jackasses who are like vultures who are having the last pick on the remaining piece of meat.

    Indeed, you are not at all smart.

  10. #690

    Re: Introducing the Pet Store

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikkatsu
    I never said i have infinate wealth lol...

    I have a job, i put effort into that and i am rewarded in the form of real life monies that i can use to buy what i like.

    That doesn't mean i have no skill.

    I was in a guild that was 4th on Magtheridon-EU to down Yogg-Saron, check my characters achivement date if you wish (Ikkatsu - Tauren Druid - Magtheridon-EU).

    I think you are just butthurt about not being able to get your mom to buy you the pet, and are now trying to use "skill and achivement" as your arguement to why you deserve it for free.

    Link me your main characters armory so i can see your achievements and post a screenshot of your char saying "FUUU IKKATSU, I HATE YOU FAT CAT" so i can confirm its legitmacy.

    You won't, becuase you are a douche that has achieved nothing IRL or INGAME.
    Hey, getting carried through MC/BWL took high amounts of skill.

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    Re: Introducing the Pet Store

    Quote Originally Posted by cuteyonly
    You sound like a complete in real life prick though. Probably never seen a hard days work in your life, probably work for your daddy's company and just been able to buy anything you wanted.

    You have never seen what it's like to work in defying odds and come out the winner, you probably paid your way into your guild anyway without having any skills of any sense whatsoever.

    People like you are called FAT CATS.

    You are fat and ugly.
    Oh my god the nerd rage and speculation about who I am is hilarious. When your job includes being in a life or death situation nearly 24/7 then talk to me about a true hard day's work. My father doesn't own a company and has never given me a dime to pay for the things I want.

    You have no idea what defying odds are. When you go to work, not knowing if you'll return to your family, and do come back home, gracious that you didn't get killed, come talk to me.

    I'm actually quite skinny and tall, and quite a few people (inb4yourmotherdoesn'tcount) have said I'm quite cute.

    I'm with you 100% on buying gear, characters, gold, and things like that for real money. I don't think that should happen. Hell, I hate people who ebay their characters because they are the biggest morons when it comes to playing such an easy game. But paying for an ingame pet does not make me less of a person because I'm "contributing to commercialism." Better not buy those cars, cell phones, brand name clothes, or anything like that, otherwise you are one huge, hypocritical asshole.

    I like how you call everyone who is spending their money the way they want to a prick. You trying to pressure and bitch out everyone to not spend money on these pets makes you out to be quite a self glorified asshole. Think about it.

  12. #692

    Re: Introducing the Pet Store

    Quote Originally Posted by cuteyonly
    Sounds ludicruos doesn't it.
    Now I ask you to think about it.

    Ask yourself why Blizzard actively ALLOWS gold selling to happen.

    The people that sell it independently from Blizzard PAY MONTHLY FEES FOR THEIR ACCOUNTS.

    The people that sell it @ Blizzard get yet even more money.


    You ask me to think before i type, i've spent 5 years thinking of why gold selling actually happens, and their is only one logical conclusion as to why it happens -

    BECAUSE BLIZZARD WANTS IT TO

    I urge you to spend as much time thinking about it as me, you will come to the same conclusion, BECAUSE IT IS THE ONLY LOGICAL ANSWER.

    Thank you.
    Ok, you said scan chat. You know the resources needed for such a thing? we have General, Trade, LFG, Channels created by users plus EVERY SINGE WHISPER!!! Live scanning of these is a huge thing and I don't think they keep extend log of every single chat (id they keep any).

    They do monitor of gold transanctions I have read of people being banned because they send a great amount by mail, but motitoring every /trade this is nearly impossible.

    Most of gold selling is being done using hacked accounts or accounts used for powerleveling. I agree that giving your account for powerleveling is against the rules and you deserve being banned, but what about the poor soul who was hacked?

    *EDIT* I totally forgot Demo accounts, thank you Mooboy */EDIT*

    Also the number of hacked accounts are a lot and as hard you try there will always be enough for making the gold selling bussinesses run. It's like trying to jail every single drug dealer and not dealing with the source.

    The only thing is to find the (ghost) companies that sells gold. Is Blizzard capable of reaching every single household in China (just a stereotype) that can run a gold selling company while these companies can change location in minutes?

    (sorry if my English are bad)

  13. #693
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    Re: Introducing the Pet Store

    Quote Originally Posted by cuteyonly
    I've spent 5 years thinking of why gold selling actually happens
    Really? 5 years? That's a long time for a very simple answer 'demand'

    Quote Originally Posted by cuteyonly
    I urge you to spend as much time thinking about it as me, you will come to the same conclusion, BECAUSE IT IS THE ONLY LOGICAL ANSWER.
    It isn't just a case of X player sent Y gold to Z, I often move gold between accounts, how much before I'm a gold seller? How about if I lend some gold to a friend? What about if I sell something?

    You can't honestly say that watching thousands of posted / traded items a second between players is possible without creating some serious lag issues. Even flagging the accounts and having people look at them would require a stupid amount of both time and people.

    What about the accounts they do ban? What about the restrictions on demo accounts and the amount of gold people can have when moving servers? Are you saying they're doing that to give the impression that they're doing something while all the while rubbing their hands and laughing?

    I believe if there was a way that they could target just these people with no innocent bystanders getting in the way they would, to believe it's all a big consipricy to get subscription fees from a minority...that's just a little too 'tin foil hat' for my liking.

    But hey you've had much longer to convince yourself you're right, and you used CAPS so....

  14. #694

    Re: Introducing the Pet Store

    Quote Originally Posted by cuteyonly
    They are earning hundreds of thousands of pounds a month because people like you give them $10 for a pet.......

    For someone who claims to be in a good job, you don't seem very smart.

    In order to make the game better, you need to make Blizzard WORK at keeping their customers which means spending time into making the game GOOD.

    Grz on your new pet though, you have helped Blizzard to think that they can just keep selling in game items without actually putting any effort in to the actual game.

    Seriously, i'm not really sure what to say about the people's stupidity who want to play a good game, but then support the idea of not even allowing the game to be developed, but just to give Blizzard money for nothing while they give you shit in return.

    If you think paying for a pet is good value for money, and will help develop the game into a better game, i feel really sorry for you.
    It says ALOT about the type of person you are.
    And if you get pleasure in life from a pixel pet you paid $10 dollars for, it actually shows how sad and desperate you are in real life.

    Me personally are the type of person who likes to surround himself in quality things, quality games, quality people.

    I like to see talent, motivation, a sense of fulfillment.

    None of these things can be found, where the lazy path is taken.

    Buying a vanity pet is the lazy path for you, and it is helping Blizzard become a lazy company.

    There will always be talent and motivation to be found amongst people, sadly it is not with the World of Warcraft community, it is for untalented, lazy jackasses who are like vultures who are having the last pick on the remaining piece of meat.

    Indeed, you are not at all smart.
    It doesnt bother me that Blizzard are going to earn Millions of dollars out of this, but why should it?

    Why does it bother you?

    If they STOPPED DEVELOPMENT on the game just to release Microtransaction Pets... then yes, your arguement would be flawless and i would suport you 100%.

    The problem is, development hasnt stopped and the game IS improving with each expansion.

    They are working on Cataclysm and ANOTHER unnanounced expansion as we argue, so therefore your point is moot.

  15. #695

    Re: Introducing the Pet Store

    Quote Originally Posted by Culnar
    Ok, you said scan chat. You know the resources needed for such a thing? we have General, Trade, LFG, Channels created by users plus EVERY SINGE WHISPER!!! Live scanning of these is a huge thing and I don't think they keep extend log of every single chat (id they keep any).
    Blizzard do keep an extended log already of everything that is said in game.

    Everything you say is kept on record for a period of time.

    If you ever reported someone for bad language you will already know that GM's back track scan everything that was said so they can make a judgement is someone needs banning or not.

    I thought this was common knowledge, but apprently not.....

  16. #696

    Re: Introducing the Pet Store

    i know it is optional and some money goes to charity but have to say that this was really low from Blizzard.this new develop team has ruined the game.i want the old team.i have heard that two of the old team will come at cataclysm to clear up this mess.is that true?
    Mal'Ganis is DEAD!Deal with it!

  17. #697

    Re: Introducing the Pet Store

    I approve of this thread, it brings out all the forum trolls for one quick and easy banning session, wish you'd do it a bit faster though boub :<

    On topic, i bought these pets, and even bought them for a friend, why? Because they look cool and KT has the best laugh ever, i play this game for fun, something people like cuteyonly seems to have forgetten all about.
    http://cronocious.deviantart.com/

  18. #698
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    Re: Introducing the Pet Store

    Quote Originally Posted by Jadora
    Its a vanity pet. If you want one buy it, if you don't want to pay the $10 cool, that's your prerogative. Stop bitching about how greedy a for profit company is just because you're jealous that you didn't think of the idea for WoW first (that's right, every single sane person here would not be crying if they were tasting some of that money pool the blizz/activision ceo's get to swim in).
    Didn't think of the idea adding item shop to wow first? That's very common in F2P games and for example Guild Wars have item shop, but it doesn't have monthly fees and still make profit. WoW is becoming P2P with item shop. History show that even though Blizzard say they wont add something (faction, race change, pvp->pve) to game they eventually will if there even little money to make and there is huge market in ebay/gold selling where blizzard isn't making profit yet.

  19. #699

    Re: Introducing the Pet Store

    Quote Originally Posted by Miltiadhs
    i know it is optional and some money goes to charity but have to say that this was really low from Blizzard.this new develop team has ruined the game.i want the old team.i have heard that two of the old team will come at cataclysm to clear up this mess.is that true?
    When did the development team change?

  20. #700

    Re: Introducing the Pet Store

    Quote Originally Posted by Mooboy
    Really? 5 years? That's a long time for a very simple answer 'demand'

    It isn't just a case of X player sent Y gold to Z, I often move gold between accounts, how much before I'm a gold seller? How about if I lend some gold to a friend? What about if I sell something?

    You can't honestly say that watching thousands of posted / traded items a second between players is possible without creating some serious lag issues. Even flagging the accounts and having people look at them would require a stupid amount of both time and people.

    What about the accounts they do ban? What about the restrictions on demo accounts and the amount of gold people can have when moving servers? Are you saying they're doing that to give the impression that they're doing something while all the while rubbing their hands and laughing?

    I believe if there was a way that they could target just these people with no innocent bystanders getting in the way they would, to believe it's all a big consipricy to get subscription fees from a minority...that's just a little too 'tin foil hat' for my liking.

    But hey you've had much longer to convince yourself you're right, and you used CAPS so....
    Please take your logic and reason and get out of this thread. This thread is for mindless, baseless, ridiculously hysterical QQ from people who've thought about this FOR FIVE YEARS. The fact that you've thought about this for FIVE MINUTES using logic and common sense gives you no right to post here damnit!

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