How to increase dps?

Deleted · 2009-11-27, 03:57 PM

You're missing the point.

Death Strike is melee.

Deleted · 2009-11-27, 05:52 PM

let me help out ehre they are saying that since death strike is mele and IT is ranged you can use IT while still moving towards the boss instead of waiting for mele range to DS sorry for pointing out the obvious but it seems some have trouble grasping it.

**JGWentworth** · 2009-11-27, 06:18 PM

Originally Posted by Saram

You're missing the point.

Death Strike is melee.

Yes I realize that DS is melee what you don't realize is that starting with it.ps means you don't have your diseases up for the entirety of your rotation. So you can skip like 1-2 seconds of dps time by waiting to use a DS or you can drop your ds when your last couple of heart strikes dont get damage buffs from diseases. That is the point I am trying to make.

**Shiira** · 2009-11-27, 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by Hiboyslol

Yes I realize that DS is melee what you don't realize is that starting with it.ps means you don't have your diseases up for the entirety of your rotation. So you can skip like 1-2 seconds of dps time by waiting to use a DS or you can drop your ds when your last couple of heart strikes dont get damage buffs from diseases. That is the point I am trying to make.

With 1/2 epidemic diseases will last long enough for you to get all of your heart strikes off, even if you open with icy touch and plague strike.

**Dacke** · 2009-11-27, 06:36 PM

Originally Posted by Skullmaster

and pretty much gem for Strength instead of AP, for Death Knights I believe Strength scales into 1.5 AP (I THINK!!!) for every 1 point of Strength.

DKs get 2 points of AP per point of Strength. In addition, if you use the right talents (Veteran of the Third War and Abomination's Might in Blood; Ravenous Dead in Unholy) you can get a total Strength bonus of 11%, which means you get 2.22 AP per Str point on your gear. Blessing of Kings on top of that will give you an additional 10%, which I think puts you at 2.442 AP/geared Str (assuming the +11% from talents and the +10% from Kings work multiplicatively instead of additively).

**JGWentworth** · 2009-11-27, 06:37 PM

I guess we will have to agree to disagree.

Deleted · 2009-11-30, 12:39 PM

Originally Posted by Hiboyslol

Yes I realize that DS is melee what you don't realize is that starting with it.ps means you don't have your diseases up for the entirety of your rotation. So you can skip like 1-2 seconds of dps time by waiting to use a DS or you can drop your ds when your last couple of heart strikes dont get damage buffs from diseases. That is the point I am trying to make.

If that's your reason for opening with DS, there's certainly something wrong.

I thought you opened with DS to raidbuff 10% AP ASAP (which is generally a good idea depending on raid comp, my point was casting IT wouldn't delay that as it's ranged) however if 18s isn't long enough to use all your abilities, your rotation is wrong or you're lagging badly. 18s used to be the maximum duration for diseases anyway, and blood could easily fit all abilities into that window back then too.

**JGWentworth** · 2009-11-30, 03:03 PM

That's the second reason opening with DS is more benefitial than opening with IT

Deleted · 2009-11-30, 03:51 PM

You're trying to sound like you thought of it before now.

Lets not admit to being wrong though and again overlook the fact that IT is ranged and doesn't delay your first DS on 99% of encounters.

**JGWentworth** · 2009-11-30, 07:08 PM

Originally Posted by Saram

You're trying to sound like you thought of it before now.

Well I played blood through all of 3.1 so I've known that for quite some time

**Pokemaster** · 2009-11-30, 07:58 PM

Originally Posted by CeberusTheDK

- move that point from vampiric blood, and put it in improved blood presence imo, Other than that your spec is solid.

-Lose [Glyph of Plague Strike], get [Glyph of Dark Death] to power up your death coils. It'll mean more DPS.