How to make AV more fun again!

[Berniee]

First off I'd like to appologise if this has already been suggested but I couldnt find anything on the forums.

So, we had daily AV yesterday and it got me thinking of back in the days when AV lasted forever and you got to summon/escort to get your ancients/giants or whatever summoned. They were highly valued and people had respect for them. Looting corpses, doing quests and everything else was very important to win AV. Nowdays looting corpses are only used to boost rep.

Where do I want to go with this? Well, seeing as they are removing the PvP marks of honor now, the time spent in AV wont make much difference, correct?

So how about this!
Add gates, much like in Isle of conquest. NO SIEGE, but add seaforium charges only. This would make it pretty chaotic and rushing would be prevented. If it's not too chaotic they could make only one base (Snowfall graveyard perhaps?) This would make AV very comptetetative and imo a lot more fun. Seing people rush for bombs to make their way through the walls and capturing imprtant bases and defending towers etc would bring back a lot of memories. Oh, and why would you want to defend? You get to loot corpses and eventually summon your ancient/giant!

I know this idea is a bit flawed but I figured the helpfuk coimmunity of mmo-champion could build this up. Please let me know what you think of this idea and why you think so.

[Berniee]

please comment why you think like you think and please let us know what could be added or changed!

[Sea Beast]

Isle sucks, Av is awesome!

[Berniee]

AV is a 5 min rush BG, where's the fun and actual pvp in that?

[Sea Beast]

siege engines suck, dumbs down pvp.

[Vasz]

I remember when AV used to have hundreds of NPC's you had to fight past.

The idea is simple: You HAVE to take all towers before you can fight the boss. Stops the 3 min zerg. Graveyards have mini bosses that cant be soloed.

What happened to summoning the support and bosses? that NEEDS to come back.

So many ideas to improve AV, but pissed so cant really go through them all.

[Berniee]

Dear Sea Beast. Please read my post again and you will notice I mentioned there would be no siege engines but seaforium charges only.

[bahumut5]

I would like to change your idea to this:

The gate idea is nice, but needs to be changed a bit in my opinion, because it needs to keep its "AV' style.
For example:

• Gate System. Some paths are blocked by gates and the gates must be "opened" to pass.
• 2 towers on each side. Make a "lever system" (note: not a capture system) that both towers need to be activated in order to get through.
• Gates are only present past the Field of Strife & own faction gates can be passed by a stairway (same as SoA gates).
• More Mobs and walking boss. I remember there being a cave with a mob that was not possible to solo down. And also with the help of a friend, we had a lot of trouble. These mobs should be walking around, making it more of a 1 v/s 1 v/s 1 battle.
• Summoning Mobs and the Boss needs to be more rewarding. For example: Gate's can be conquered, but can only be destroyed by special summons (Ally point of view: Ram Riders can destroy the last gate, Nightelve riders can destroy the second gate and only the boss can destroy the first gate, making this a final sollution for the gate).

Thats probably the most important stuff that I personally would like to see
Maybe a "Marked and run" type of stuff for the Bombing stuff.... but thats it

[Berniee]

Thanks for the great response Bahumut5. Those are great suggestions. I like your idea of getting through the gates also, I came up with the seaforium as a temporarely solution as how to get thorugh the walls. I like where this is going. My goal is to eventually get all the ideas together and get a ultimate AV that I can post on the official WoW forums.

[Furcea]

No thanks, I'm sick of the gates/veichles/bombs.

I only liked AV for a short while when I got to max lvl the first time. I don't care if it's all rush rush rush, in fact, I want it to be that way so I can get my daily done and then move on.

[Rígr]

Make it an option to enter classic vanilla AV, where doing the quests and summoning bosses / turning in stuff matters and is vital to success, where 1 fight can last anywhere between 30 min and 12hours.

[bahumut5]

Make it an option to enter classic vanilla AV, where doing the quests and summoning bosses / turning in stuff matters and is vital to success, where 1 fight can last anywhere between 30 min and 12hours.

Yeah, I want my "lets enter a 2 hour game, go to sleep, school all other activity's, enter wow 20 hours later, join the exact same game you left in AV" back.

[Darkspore]

I would hate to get this as my daily random BG if it takes that long (summoning a giant takes ages).
I also don't like how it is right now, it's hardly pvp. It's like doing VoA with a random group except without any boss abilities.

[hpwglass]

I would really like to see some of the PvP of old in AV again (using turn ins etc).