Question regarding Muradin's spyglass

[mikez2k10]

I was just wondering if people cast Elemental Mastery before they get the 10 stacks or after?

[slagathor94]

I have both Dragon's Soul (Damn that trinket) and Muradin's Spyglass so I wait for both of those to stack to 10 before procing Elemental Mastery, I would bet it translates into greater dps.

[SC2 Beta Key]

Well, once the next patch hits you probably shouldn't, as you'll want to EM-->Fls to start.

[Hendrixstorm]

It only matters if that pause loses you an extra use of the EM CD. But the ramp up time is so short, that's pretty much impossible.

[slagathor94]

Well, once the next patch hits you probably shouldn't, as you'll want to EM-->Fls to start.

I haven't done out any calculations but once the trinket is at 5 procs I think that is when you will want to EM and reapply FS because that would translate to the highest haste and most ticks per second.

[Fligahgigook]

Off topic but sulfuron slammers from BRD proc the trinket.

[TheTieThatBinds]

Oo, im a troll shaman and that makes me wonder how FLameshock is going to be with EM, Berserking, AND Bloodlust

[Intiriel]

Oo, im a troll shaman and that makes me wonder how FLameshock is going to be with EM, Berserking, AND Bloodlust

When you cast it, it ends.

[Hendrixstorm]

Oo, im a troll shaman and that makes me wonder how FLameshock is going to be with EM, Berserking, AND Bloodlust

EM 15% + BL 30% + Berserking 20% + ~25% haste on gear(Remeber your relic) + 5% from totem + 3% from boomkin aura = Over 90% haste, which of an 18 second duration, is about a 1.8 second full flame shock.

[Kyrstlol]

EM 15% + BL 30% + Berserking 20% + ~25% haste on gear(Remeber your relic) + 5% from totem + 3% from boomkin aura = Over 90% haste, which of an 18 second duration, is about a 1.8 second full flame shock.

Thats not how haste works.
Assuming 90% haste it would actually be a 9.47 sec Flameshock duration.

[whowherewhat?]

EM 15% + BL 30% + Berserking 20% + ~25% haste on gear(Remeber your relic) + 5% from totem + 3% from boomkin aura = Over 90% haste, which of an 18 second duration, is about a 1.8 second full flame shock.

HOWEVER, with the new change to the four piece you'll be having a flame shock lasting ~ 6 seconds extra with each lava burst cast but ticking 90% for its whole duration, crazy crazy

[Hendrixstorm]

HOWEVER, with the new change to the four piece you'll be having a flame shock lasting ~ 6 seconds extra with each lava burst cast but ticking 90% for its whole duration, crazy crazy

Isn't the new 4pc change it makes it tick 2 more times?

[whowherewhat?]

at least 2 times, meaning (and this was tested by DaDimi if i'm not mistaken) they'll give you enough ticks >2 based on your haste to give you at least 6 seconds of extra FS duration per lava burst. so basically its the same 4pc, just adjusted to work with haste

[Hendrixstorm]

at least 2 times, meaning (and this was tested by DaDimi if i'm not mistaken) they'll give you enough ticks >2 based on your haste to give you at least 6 seconds of extra FS duration per lava burst. so basically its the same 4pc, just adjusted to work with haste

I apologize if I diddn't get this right, but what you are saying is it's going to add more ticks depending on your haste which for the average person is about 6 seconds?

[whowherewhat?]

not necessarily "for the average person" but the amount of extra duration on flame shock due to extra ticks will always be > 6 seconds.

On topic of Muradin's however, I usually pop my glove enchant and EM as soon as the fight starts in order to get those two on cooldown faster w/o waiting for muradin's to reach its maximum stack. I usually hit max stack by my second lava burst and my other trinket's proc is usually active at that time so i get a good benefit...but I'm also not sure if i should consider recasting flame shock at maximum stack either, any thoughts to that or my playstyle?

[Hendrixstorm]

On topic of Muradin's however, I usually pop my glove enchant and EM as soon as the fight starts in order to get those two on cooldown faster w/o waiting for muradin's to reach its maximum stack. I usually hit max stack by my second lava burst and my other trinket's proc is usually active at that time so i get a good benefit...but I'm also not sure if i should consider recasting flame shock at maximum stack either, any thoughts to that or my playstyle?

Like I said earlier, unless the pause for ramp up time causes you to use the CD one time less during the encounter, it's better to wait.