Mage PvE Spec Comparison (Hard Numbers)

**DirewolfX** · 2010-04-21, 11:35 PM

People seem to want to debate which Mage PvE spec is the best and whether such and such spec is viable. Usually these threads degrade rather quickly into pointless flame wars. This thread is an attempt to quantify these arguments with hard numbers.

To that effect, I'll be keeping relatively strict control over this thread. If you flame someone, present anecdotal evidence (videos, world of logs parses, screen shots of recount, etc.) or otherwise post something non-constructive to the dialog, I will delete your post without further warning. Also, do not speculate about Cataclysm. This is focused entirely on current Wrath of the Lich King content.

What I will welcome is critique of my methods and suggestions on how to improve them, new spec and gear setups to test, and constructive dialog that furthers the goal of empirically determining the comparative worth of the various mage specs.

First, we need to agree upon how we value the worth of a mage spec. For the purposes of this thread, we will consider the best mage spec to be the one that does the most DPS in a 25 man raid setting. If you are more interested in decursiing the fastest, efficiently kiting world bosses to Ironforge or shooting the prettiest colors from your hands, this thread is not for you.

Next, we must consider how we will calculate the DPS of the mage specs. I will use two tools for this. I will use Rawr to assemble a reasonably decent gear set for a given tier. Then I will import that character into Simulation Craft 3.3.3 and run the character through the simulator to estimate DPS.

I will keep this post updated with the current best gear/talent setups for each spec at each tier. The actual gear setups and SimCraft data files will be linked in a separate data thread to keep this thread clear of clutter.

I will (try to) keep track of four tiers of content: Heroic 25 man (access to all gear), Normal 25 man (access to all gear from non-heroic modes in 10 and 25), Heroic 10 man (access to all gear from 10 mans), Normal 10 man (only access to normal 10 man gear).

Current WoW Version: 3.3.3

Heroic 25 Man Tier

Arcane Mage 25HC #1 - 13406 DPS (Patchwerk), 10090 DPS (Helter Skelter)

Fire Mage 25HC #1 - 13005 DPS (Patchwerk), 10459 DPS (Helter Skelter)

Frostfire Bolt Mage 25HC #1 - 12535 DPS (Patchwerk), 10015 DPS (Helter Skelter)

Frost Mage 25HC #1 - 11343 DPS (Patchwerk), 8827 DPS (Helter Skelter)

Normal 25 Man Tier

Heroic 10 Man Tier

Normal 10 Man Tier

**DirewolfX** · 2010-04-21, 11:36 PM

This is just for posting data so I don't clutter the main thread.

Please go here: http://www.mmo-champion.com/class-ma...rd-numbers%29/

**DirewolfX** · 2010-04-21, 11:40 PM

Code:

Head	Sanctified Bloodmage Hood
Neck	Blood Queen's Crimson Choker
Shoulders	Sanctified Bloodmage Shoulderpads
Chest	Sanctified Bloodmage Robe
Waist	Crushing Coldwraith Belt
Legs	Sanctified Bloodmage Leggings
Feet	Plague Scientist's Boots
Wrist	The Lady's Brittle Bracers
Hands	San'layn Ritualist Gloves
Finger1	Ashen Band of Endless Destruction
Finger2	Ring of Rapid Ascent
Trinket1	Dislodged Foreign Object
Trinket2	Reign of the Unliving
Back	Frostbinder's Shredded Cape
MainHand	Bloodsurge, Kel'Thuzad's Blade of Agony
OffHand	Shadow Silk Spindle
Ranged	Corpse-Impaling Spike
Character:		@US-
Race:		Human
Stamina: 1987
Intellect: 2174
Spirit: 530
Armor: 2537
Health: 28382
Mana: 35598
Crit Rate: 68.48%
1370.5 Crit Rating

Hit Rate: 13.97%
209 Hit Rating
Arcane	99.97%
Fire	96.97% (80 hit rating to cap)
Frost	96.97% (80 hit rating to cap)

Spell Penetration: 0
Haste: 57.47%
1225 Haste Rating

Arcane Damage: 4296.1
Fire Damage: 4296.1
Frost Damage: 4296.1
MP5: 109
Mana Regen: 878
Mana Regen in 5SR: 671
Mana Regen Drinking: 4078

Health Regen: 0
Health Regen Eating: 3832

Arcane Resist: 75
Fire Resist: 75
Nature Resist: 75
Frost Resist: 75
Shadow Resist: 75
Physical Mitigation: 13.23%
Resilience: 0.00
0.00 Damage Taken Reduction

Defense: 400
Crit Reduction: 5.00%
Spell Crit Reduction: 5.00%
Physical Crit Reduction: 5.00%
Crit Damage Reduction: 0.00%

Dodge: 5.73%
Chance to Die: 0.00%
Mean Incoming Dps: 0.00
FBPyro: 5380.51 Dps
90.77 Mps
5159.54 Tps
0.92 Dps per Spell Power
0.45 Cast Procs / Sec
0.44 Hit Procs / Sec
0.30 Crit Procs / Sec
0.90 Damage Procs / Sec
0.45 Dot Procs / Sec

FFBPyro: 5764.45 Dps
56.33 Mps
5510.73 Tps
1.01 Dps per Spell Power
0.53 Cast Procs / Sec
0.51 Hit Procs / Sec
0.35 Crit Procs / Sec
0.51 Damage Procs / Sec
0.00 Dot Procs / Sec

FBScPyro: 5380.51 Dps
90.77 Mps
5159.54 Tps
0.92 Dps per Spell Power
0.45 Cast Procs / Sec
0.44 Hit Procs / Sec
0.30 Crit Procs / Sec
0.90 Damage Procs / Sec
0.45 Dot Procs / Sec

FFBScPyro: 5764.45 Dps
56.33 Mps
5510.73 Tps
1.01 Dps per Spell Power
0.53 Cast Procs / Sec
0.51 Hit Procs / Sec
0.35 Crit Procs / Sec
0.51 Damage Procs / Sec
0.00 Dot Procs / Sec

FBLBPyro: 5730.65 Dps
119.05 Mps
5492.49 Tps
0.96 Dps per Spell Power
0.49 Cast Procs / Sec
0.48 Hit Procs / Sec
0.33 Crit Procs / Sec
0.90 Damage Procs / Sec
0.42 Dot Procs / Sec

FrBFB: 5828.43 Dps
10.98 Mps
5574.71 Tps
1.01 Dps per Spell Power
0.53 Cast Procs / Sec
0.51 Hit Procs / Sec
0.35 Crit Procs / Sec
0.51 Damage Procs / Sec
0.00 Dot Procs / Sec

FrBIL: 5828.43 Dps
10.98 Mps
5574.71 Tps
1.01 Dps per Spell Power
0.53 Cast Procs / Sec
0.51 Hit Procs / Sec
0.35 Crit Procs / Sec
0.51 Damage Procs / Sec
0.00 Dot Procs / Sec

FrBILFB: 5828.43 Dps
10.98 Mps
5574.71 Tps
1.01 Dps per Spell Power
0.53 Cast Procs / Sec
0.51 Hit Procs / Sec
0.35 Crit Procs / Sec
0.51 Damage Procs / Sec
0.00 Dot Procs / Sec

FBScLBPyro: 5730.65 Dps
119.05 Mps
5492.49 Tps
0.96 Dps per Spell Power
0.49 Cast Procs / Sec
0.48 Hit Procs / Sec
0.33 Crit Procs / Sec
0.90 Damage Procs / Sec
0.42 Dot Procs / Sec

ScLBPyro: 5019.57 Dps
95.69 Mps
4780.15 Tps
0.82 Dps per Spell Power
0.95 Cast Procs / Sec
0.92 Hit Procs / Sec
0.68 Crit Procs / Sec
0.92 Damage Procs / Sec
0.00 Dot Procs / Sec

FFBLBPyro: 6086.21 Dps
87.74 Mps
5817.89 Tps
1.04 Dps per Spell Power
0.56 Cast Procs / Sec
0.55 Hit Procs / Sec
0.37 Crit Procs / Sec
0.55 Damage Procs / Sec
0.00 Dot Procs / Sec

FFBScLBPyro: 6086.21 Dps
87.74 Mps
5817.89 Tps
1.04 Dps per Spell Power
0.56 Cast Procs / Sec
0.55 Hit Procs / Sec
0.37 Crit Procs / Sec
0.55 Damage Procs / Sec
0.00 Dot Procs / Sec

FrBFBIL: 5828.43 Dps
10.98 Mps
5574.71 Tps
1.01 Dps per Spell Power
0.53 Cast Procs / Sec
0.51 Hit Procs / Sec
0.35 Crit Procs / Sec
0.51 Damage Procs / Sec
0.00 Dot Procs / Sec

ABSpam04MBAM: 12585.56 Dps
281.97 Mps
7329.13 Tps
2.05 Dps per Spell Power
1.28 Cast Procs / Sec
1.16 Hit Procs / Sec
0.81 Crit Procs / Sec
1.16 Damage Procs / Sec
0.00 Dot Procs / Sec

ABSpam024MBAM: 12488.54 Dps
237.99 Mps
7272.05 Tps
2.04 Dps per Spell Power
1.38 Cast Procs / Sec
1.24 Hit Procs / Sec
0.86 Crit Procs / Sec
1.24 Damage Procs / Sec
0.00 Dot Procs / Sec

ABSpam0234MBAM: 12456.38 Dps
216.71 Mps
7253.11 Tps
2.04 Dps per Spell Power
1.43 Cast Procs / Sec
1.28 Hit Procs / Sec
0.89 Crit Procs / Sec
1.28 Damage Procs / Sec
0.00 Dot Procs / Sec

AB4AM0234MBAM: 11990.19 Dps
133.43 Mps
6985.44 Tps
1.97 Dps per Spell Power
1.47 Cast Procs / Sec
1.31 Hit Procs / Sec
0.90 Crit Procs / Sec
1.31 Damage Procs / Sec
0.00 Dot Procs / Sec

AB3AM023MBAM: 11554.60 Dps
91.20 Mps
6736.48 Tps
1.90 Dps per Spell Power
1.51 Cast Procs / Sec
1.34 Hit Procs / Sec
0.92 Crit Procs / Sec
1.34 Damage Procs / Sec
0.00 Dot Procs / Sec

AB2AM: 10677.24 Dps
42.50 Mps
6235.48 Tps
1.76 Dps per Spell Power
1.57 Cast Procs / Sec
1.37 Hit Procs / Sec
0.94 Crit Procs / Sec
1.37 Damage Procs / Sec
0.00 Dot Procs / Sec

FrBDFFBIL: 5828.43 Dps
10.98 Mps
5574.71 Tps
1.01 Dps per Spell Power
0.53 Cast Procs / Sec
0.51 Hit Procs / Sec
0.35 Crit Procs / Sec
0.51 Damage Procs / Sec
0.00 Dot Procs / Sec

ABSpam034MBAM: 12521.21 Dps
235.78 Mps
7290.91 Tps
2.05 Dps per Spell Power
1.37 Cast Procs / Sec
1.23 Hit Procs / Sec
0.86 Crit Procs / Sec
1.23 Damage Procs / Sec
0.00 Dot Procs / Sec

FrBDFFFB: NaN Dps
NaN Mps
NaN Tps
NaN Dps per Spell Power
NaN Cast Procs / Sec
NaN Hit Procs / Sec
NaN Crit Procs / Sec
NaN Damage Procs / Sec
NaN Dot Procs / Sec

Arcane Missiles: 6873.92 Dps
104.01 Mps
3667.89 Tps
3.12 sec
953.00 Mana
2654.00 - 2654.00 Hit
5185.25 - 5185.25 Crit
1.34x Amplify
66.08% Crit Rate
99.97% Hit Rate
1.95 Crit Multiplier

Arcane Barrage: 8446.57 Dps
321.00 Mps
4620.64 Tps
1.00 sec
553.00 Mana
5378.69 - 5658.06 Hit
9775.77 - 10283.52 Crit
1.34x Amplify
68.48% Crit Rate
99.97% Hit Rate
1.82 Crit Multiplier

Scorch: 4591.09 Dps
63.86 Mps
4006.98 Tps
1.00 sec
253.00 Mana
2913.46 - 3003.88 Hit
5295.21 - 5459.56 Crit
1.27x Amplify
74.48% Crit Rate
96.97% Hit Rate
1.82 Crit Multiplier

Fireball: 5380.51 Dps
90.77 Mps
4907.90 Tps
2.19 sec
601.00 Mana
7623.62 - 7983.22 Hit
13855.94 - 14509.51 Crit
165.10 Dot
1.42x Amplify
68.48% Crit Rate
96.97% Hit Rate
1.82 Crit Multiplier

Pyroblast: 4724.65 Dps
44.64 Mps
4355.14 Tps
3.12 sec
696.00 Mana
8516.42 - 8960.89 Hit
15478.58 - 16286.42 Crit
1760.54 Dot
1.34x Amplify
68.48% Crit Rate
96.97% Hit Rate
1.82 Crit Multiplier

Frostbolt: 5828.43 Dps
10.98 Mps
5302.60 Tps
1.88 sec
348.00 Mana
6210.75 - 6297.98 Hit
13544.60 - 13734.84 Crit
1.34x Amplify
68.48% Crit Rate
96.97% Hit Rate
2.18 Crit Multiplier

Fire Blast: 5644.44 Dps
417.00 Mps
5060.33 Tps
1.00 sec
665.00 Mana
3625.05 - 3847.84 Hit
6588.54 - 6993.44 Crit
1.27x Amplify
74.48% Crit Rate
96.97% Hit Rate
1.82 Crit Multiplier

Arcane Explosion: 25508.17 Dps
425.57 Mps
15093.27 Tps
1.00 sec
675.00 Mana
1853.50 - 1909.41 Hit
3368.74 - 3470.36 Crit
1.27x Amplify
68.48% Crit Rate
100.00% Hit Rate
1.82 Crit Multiplier

Flamestrike: 51902.81 Dps
1045.18 Mps
51572.28 Tps
1.25 sec
1680.00 Mana
2300.13 - 2533.90 Hit
4180.48 - 4605.36 Crit
3448.39 Dot
1.20x Amplify
68.48% Crit Rate
100.00% Hit Rate
1.82 Crit Multiplier

Blizzard: 31508.51 Dps
251.01 Mps
31182.06 Tps
5.01 sec
2345.00 Mana
2492.94 - 2492.94 Hit
5436.70 - 5436.70 Crit
1.20x Amplify
68.48% Crit Rate
100.00% Hit Rate
2.18 Crit Multiplier

Blast Wave: 33801.47 Dps
36.43 Mps
33448.75 Tps
1.00 sec
221.00 Mana
2383.56 - 2619.92 Hit
4332.12 - 4761.70 Crit
1.27x Amplify
68.48% Crit Rate
100.00% Hit Rate
1.82 Crit Multiplier

Dragon's Breath: 32709.57 Dps
36.43 Mps
32356.84 Tps
1.00 sec
221.00 Mana
2313.38 - 2526.77 Hit
4204.57 - 4592.40 Crit
1.20x Amplify
68.48% Crit Rate
100.00% Hit Rate
1.82 Crit Multiplier

Cone of Cold: 34407.24 Dps
525.86 Mps
34039.38 Tps
1.00 sec
792.00 Mana
2070.33 - 2155.47 Hit
4515.05 - 4700.72 Crit
1.27x Amplify
74.48% Crit Rate
100.00% Hit Rate
2.18 Crit Multiplier

Frostfire Bolt: 5764.45 Dps
56.33 Mps
5238.62 Tps
1.88 sec
443.00 Mana
6098.59 - 6259.21 Hit
13300.00 - 13650.29 Crit
120.84 Dot
1.34x Amplify
68.48% Crit Rate
96.97% Hit Rate
2.18 Crit Multiplier

Living Bomb: 9701.76 Dps
443.57 Mps
8922.48 Tps
1.00 sec
696.00 Mana
2977.58 - 2977.58 Hit
5411.75 - 5411.75 Crit
5774.56 Dot
1.20x Amplify
68.48% Crit Rate
96.97% Hit Rate
1.82 Crit Multiplier

Ice Lance: 2135.04 Dps
9.86 Mps
1704.72 Tps
1.00 sec
190.00 Mana
1096.76 - 1142.63 Hit
2391.86 - 2491.89 Crit
1.27x Amplify
68.48% Crit Rate
96.97% Hit Rate
2.18 Crit Multiplier

Wand: 690.67 Dps
-134.33 Mps
690.67 Tps
1.75 sec
0.00 Mana
717.06 - 1331.51 Hit
1107.86 - 2057.18 Crit
1.20x Amplify
68.48% Crit Rate
96.97% Hit Rate
1.55 Crit Multiplier

Arcane Blast(0): 7091.46 Dps
-32.10 Mps
3886.91 Tps
1.56 sec
215.00 Mana
6606.38 - 6879.74 Hit
12007.10 - 12503.92 Crit
1.42x Amplify
74.48% Crit Rate
99.97% Hit Rate
1.82 Crit Multiplier

Arcane Blast(4): 11691.70 Dps
828.89 Mps
6527.08 Tps
1.56 sec
1720.00 Mana
11093.74 - 11552.76 Hit
20162.87 - 20997.15 Crit
2.39x Amplify
74.48% Crit Rate
99.97% Hit Rate
1.82 Crit Multiplier

Deep Freeze: 23566.26 Dps
91.28 Mps
22042.98 Tps
1.00 sec
285.00 Mana
14310.20 - 14646.47 Hit
31208.15 - 31941.52 Crit
1.20x Amplify
68.48% Crit Rate
96.97% Hit Rate
2.18 Crit Multiplier

MBAM: 12716.72 Dps
-171.44 Mps
6923.62 Tps
1.56 sec
0.00 Mana
2654.00 - 2654.00 Hit
5185.25 - 5185.25 Crit
1.34x Amplify
66.08% Crit Rate
99.97% Hit Rate
1.95 Crit Multiplier

Fire Ward: 5409.81 Absorb
280.71 Mps
Average Cast Time: 1.00
506.00 Mana

Frost Ward: 5409.81 Absorb
226.71 Mps
Average Cast Time: 1.00
443.00 Mana

Total Damage: 4294114.00
Upper Bound: 4294114.24
Lower Bound: 0.00

Score: 14316.55
Dps: 14313.71
Tps: 8308.13
Status: Score: 14316.55, Dps: 14313.71, Survivability: 2.84
Sequence: 
Disabled

Spell Cycles: 
Molten Armor
Evocation: 1.86x (4842.95 mps)
Mana Gem: 3.00x
Summon Mirror Image: 2.00x
ABSpam034MBAM: 179.56 sec (12521.21 dps, 235.78 mps, 7290.91 tps)
Arcane Power+ABSpam034MBAM: 18.00 sec (14208.46 dps, 280.27 mps, 8251.25 tps)
Heroism+ABSpam04MBAM: 10.00 sec (16482.07 dps, 412.99 mps, 9544.42 tps)
Icy Veins+ABSpam04MBAM: 12.00 sec (15269.87 dps, 372.18 mps, 8855.52 tps)
Arcane Power+Icy Veins+ABSpam04MBAM: 12.00 sec (17264.77 dps, 423.35 mps, 9990.26 tps)
Heroism+Mirror Image+ABSpam04MBAM: 15.00 sec (20142.93 dps, 412.99 mps, 11262.42 tps)
Arcane Power+Heroism+Mirror Image+ABSpam04MBAM: 15.00 sec (22687.60 dps, 468.29 mps, 12709.30 tps)
Icy Veins+Mirror Image+ABSpam04MBAM: 13.00 sec (18712.27 dps, 372.18 mps, 10449.52 tps)
Potion of Speed+Arcane Power+Icy Veins+Mirror Image+ABSpam04MBAM: 15.00 sec (23187.45 dps, 482.15 mps, 12993.12 tps)


By Spell: 
Arcane Blast: 59.56%, 2557427.00 Damage, 171.55 Hits
Arcane Missiles: 36.74%, 1577663.00 Damage, 208.20 Hits
Fire Damage Proc: 2.74%, 117450.60 Damage, 106.92 Hits
Mirror Image: 0.97%, 41573.96 Damage, 72.00 Hits


Minimum Range: 0.00
Threat Reduction: 41.96%

Code:

#!./simc 

mage=generic
origin=
level=80
race=human
use_pre_potion=-1
talents=http://www.wowarmory.com/talent-calc.xml?cid=8&tal=23200523010033015032310250532103000000000000000000000000002032030010000000000000000000
glyphs=molten_armor/arcane_blast/arcane_missiles
actions=flask,type=frost_wyrm
actions+=/food,type=fish_feast
actions+=/arcane_brilliance
actions+=/focus_magic
actions+=/snapshot_stats
actions+=/counterspell
actions+=/arcane_power
actions+=/icy_veins
actions+=/presence_of_mind,arcane_blast
actions+=/mana_gem
actions+=/choose_rotation
actions+=/arcane_missiles,if=buff.missile_barrage.up
actions+=/mirror_image
actions+=/arcane_blast,if=dpm&buff.arcane_blast.stack<3
actions+=/arcane_blast,if=dps
actions+=/mana_potion
actions+=/evocation
actions+=/arcane_missiles
actions+=/arcane_barrage,moving=1
actions+=/fire_blast,moving=1
head=sanctified_bloodmage_hood,heroic=1,stats=300armor_122crit_98haste_139int_186sp_139sta,gems=chaotic_skyflare_10spi_12sp_9sp,enchant=30sp_20crit
neck=blood_queens_crimson_choker,heroic=1,stats=65crit_60haste_78int_110sp_78sta,gems=23sp
shoulders=sanctified_bloodmage_shoulderpads,heroic=1,stats=277armor_90crit_82haste_103int_150sp_103sta,gems=10haste_12sp_5sp,enchant=24sp_15crit
chest=sanctified_bloodmage_robe,heroic=1,stats=369armor_106crit_122haste_139int_195sp_139sta,gems=23sp_10spi_12sp_7sp,enchant=10str_10agi_10sta_10int_10spi
waist=crushing_coldwraith_belt,heroic=1,stats=208armor_74crit_90haste_103int_140sp_103sta,gems=10spi_12sp_23sp_23sp_7sp
legs=sanctified_bloodmage_leggings,heroic=1,stats=323armor_122crit_106hit_139int_195sp_139sta,gems=10spi_12sp_10haste_12sp_7sp,enchant=50sp_20spi
feet=plague_scientists_boots,heroic=1,stats=254armor_74crit_90haste_103int_140sp_103sta,gems=10spi_12sp_23sp_7sp,enchant=15sta
wrists=the_ladys_brittle_bracers,heroic=1,stats=162armor_73crit_52hit_78int_110sp_78sta,gems=10haste_12sp_5sp,enchant=30sp
hands=sanlayn_ritualist_gloves,heroic=1,stats=231armor_90haste_103int_74spi_140sp_103sta,gems=10haste_12sp_10spi_12sp_7sp,enchant=28sp
finger1=ashen_band_of_endless_destruction,stats=64haste_51hit_73int_101sp_73sta,gems=10haste_12sp_5sp,enchant=23sp,equip=onspellcasthit_285sp_10%_10dur_60cd
finger2=ring_of_rapid_ascent,heroic=1,stats=68crit_60haste_78int_110sp_78sta,gems=23sp,enchant=23sp
trinket1=dislodged_foreign_object,heroic=1,stats=170haste,equip=onspellcast_121sp_10stack_10%_20dur_45cd_2tick
trinket2=reign_of_the_unliving,heroic=1,stats=168sp,equip=onspelldirectcrit_2117fire_3stack_2.0cd
back=frostbinders_shredded_cape,heroic=1,stats=185armor_68crit_60haste_78int_110sp_78sta,gems=10haste_12sp_5sp
main_hand=bloodsurge_kelthuzads_blade_of_agony,heroic=1,stats=55crit_71haste_81int_893sp_81sta,gems=23sp,enchant=black_magic,weapon=sword_1.80speed_160min_447max
off_hand=shadow_silk_spindle,heroic=1,stats=68crit_68haste_78int_119sp_78sta
ranged=corpseimpaling_spike,heroic=1,stats=38crit_30haste_44int_58sp_44sta,gems=10haste_12sp_5sp
# Gear Summary
# gear_strength=10
# gear_agility=10
# gear_stamina=1442
# gear_intellect=1427
# gear_spirit=164
# gear_spell_power=3519
# gear_hit_rating=209
# gear_crit_rating=1079
# gear_haste_rating=1225
# gear_armor=2309
# meta_gem=chaotic_skyflare
# tier10_2pc_caster=1
# tier10_4pc_caster=1
# main_hand=bloodsurge_kelthuzads_blade_of_agony,heroic=1,weapon=sword_1.80speed_160min_447max,enchant=black_magic
armor_type=molten

**DirewolfX** · 2010-04-21, 11:42 PM

Code:

Head	Sanctified Bloodmage Hood
Neck	Amulet of the Silent Eulogy
Shoulders	Sanctified Bloodmage Shoulderpads
Chest	Sanctified Bloodmage Robe
Waist	Crushing Coldwraith Belt
Legs	Sanctified Bloodmage Leggings
Feet	Plague Scientist's Boots
Wrist	The Lady's Brittle Bracers
Hands	Sanctified Bloodmage Gloves
Finger1	Ashen Band of Endless Destruction
Finger2	Ring of Rapid Ascent
Trinket1	Dislodged Foreign Object
Trinket2	Phylactery of the Nameless Lich
Back	Frostbinder's Shredded Cape
MainHand	Bloodsurge, Kel'Thuzad's Blade of Agony
OffHand	Shadow Silk Spindle
Ranged	Corpse-Impaling Spike
Character:		@US-
Race:		Human
Stamina: 1987
Intellect: 1891
Spirit: 504
Armor: 2537
Health: 28382
Mana: 31353
Crit Rate: 67.77%
1553.2 Crit Rating

Hit Rate: 17.14%
371 Hit Rating
Arcane	100.00% (82 hit rating over cap)
Fire	100.00% (3 hit rating over cap)
Frost	100.00% (3 hit rating over cap)

Spell Penetration: 0
Haste: 45.19%
1123 Haste Rating

Arcane Damage: 3786
Fire Damage: 3786
Frost Damage: 3786
MP5: 109
Mana Regen: 789
Mana Regen in 5SR: 605
Mana Regen Drinking: 3989

Health Regen: 0
Health Regen Eating: 3828

Arcane Resist: 75
Fire Resist: 75
Nature Resist: 75
Frost Resist: 75
Shadow Resist: 75
Physical Mitigation: 13.23%
Resilience: 0.00
0.00 Damage Taken Reduction

Defense: 400
Crit Reduction: 5.00%
Spell Crit Reduction: 5.00%
Physical Crit Reduction: 5.00%
Crit Damage Reduction: 0.00%

Dodge: 5.73%
Chance to Die: 0.00%
Mean Incoming Dps: 0.00
FBPyro: 12122.33 Dps
111.42 Mps
9859.14 Tps
2.32 Dps per Spell Power
0.62 Cast Procs / Sec
0.62 Hit Procs / Sec
0.48 Crit Procs / Sec
1.12 Damage Procs / Sec
0.50 Dot Procs / Sec

FFBPyro: 10028.84 Dps
52.34 Mps
8455.04 Tps
1.94 Dps per Spell Power
0.59 Cast Procs / Sec
0.59 Hit Procs / Sec
0.46 Crit Procs / Sec
1.09 Damage Procs / Sec
0.50 Dot Procs / Sec

FBScPyro: 12050.66 Dps
110.99 Mps
9797.60 Tps
2.30 Dps per Spell Power
0.64 Cast Procs / Sec
0.64 Hit Procs / Sec
0.50 Crit Procs / Sec
1.15 Damage Procs / Sec
0.51 Dot Procs / Sec

FFBScPyro: 10054.39 Dps
54.63 Mps
8459.15 Tps
1.95 Dps per Spell Power
0.61 Cast Procs / Sec
0.61 Hit Procs / Sec
0.48 Crit Procs / Sec
1.12 Damage Procs / Sec
0.50 Dot Procs / Sec

FBLBPyro: 12895.25 Dps
138.76 Mps
10496.54 Tps
2.42 Dps per Spell Power
0.66 Cast Procs / Sec
0.66 Hit Procs / Sec
0.52 Crit Procs / Sec
1.13 Damage Procs / Sec
0.46 Dot Procs / Sec

FrBFB: 4125.31 Dps
-17.83 Mps
3920.55 Tps
0.82 Dps per Spell Power
0.49 Cast Procs / Sec
0.49 Hit Procs / Sec
0.33 Crit Procs / Sec
0.49 Damage Procs / Sec
0.00 Dot Procs / Sec

FrBIL: 4125.31 Dps
-17.83 Mps
3920.55 Tps
0.82 Dps per Spell Power
0.49 Cast Procs / Sec
0.49 Hit Procs / Sec
0.33 Crit Procs / Sec
0.49 Damage Procs / Sec
0.00 Dot Procs / Sec

FrBILFB: 4125.31 Dps
-17.83 Mps
3920.55 Tps
0.82 Dps per Spell Power
0.49 Cast Procs / Sec
0.49 Hit Procs / Sec
0.33 Crit Procs / Sec
0.49 Damage Procs / Sec
0.00 Dot Procs / Sec

FBScLBPyro: 12812.32 Dps
138.43 Mps
10426.29 Tps
2.41 Dps per Spell Power
0.68 Cast Procs / Sec
0.68 Hit Procs / Sec
0.53 Crit Procs / Sec
1.13 Damage Procs / Sec
0.45 Dot Procs / Sec

ScLBPyro: 11315.38 Dps
131.32 Mps
9184.24 Tps
2.09 Dps per Spell Power
1.02 Cast Procs / Sec
1.02 Hit Procs / Sec
0.79 Crit Procs / Sec
1.29 Damage Procs / Sec
0.27 Dot Procs / Sec

FFBLBPyro: 11010.56 Dps
85.52 Mps
9232.83 Tps
2.09 Dps per Spell Power
0.64 Cast Procs / Sec
0.64 Hit Procs / Sec
0.50 Crit Procs / Sec
1.10 Damage Procs / Sec
0.46 Dot Procs / Sec

FFBScLBPyro: 11036.80 Dps
87.97 Mps
9237.50 Tps
2.09 Dps per Spell Power
0.66 Cast Procs / Sec
0.66 Hit Procs / Sec
0.51 Crit Procs / Sec
1.12 Damage Procs / Sec
0.46 Dot Procs / Sec

FrBFBIL: 4125.31 Dps
-17.83 Mps
3920.55 Tps
0.82 Dps per Spell Power
0.49 Cast Procs / Sec
0.49 Hit Procs / Sec
0.33 Crit Procs / Sec
0.49 Damage Procs / Sec
0.00 Dot Procs / Sec

ABSpam04MBAM: 7978.21 Dps
766.93 Mps
4572.19 Tps
1.37 Dps per Spell Power
0.59 Cast Procs / Sec
0.59 Hit Procs / Sec
0.40 Crit Procs / Sec
0.59 Damage Procs / Sec
0.00 Dot Procs / Sec

ABSpam024MBAM: 7978.21 Dps
766.93 Mps
4572.19 Tps
1.37 Dps per Spell Power
0.59 Cast Procs / Sec
0.59 Hit Procs / Sec
0.40 Crit Procs / Sec
0.59 Damage Procs / Sec
0.00 Dot Procs / Sec

ABSpam0234MBAM: 7978.21 Dps
766.93 Mps
4572.19 Tps
1.37 Dps per Spell Power
0.59 Cast Procs / Sec
0.59 Hit Procs / Sec
0.40 Crit Procs / Sec
0.59 Damage Procs / Sec
0.00 Dot Procs / Sec

AB4AM0234MBAM: 6365.63 Dps
184.57 Mps
3625.31 Tps
1.12 Dps per Spell Power
0.96 Cast Procs / Sec
0.87 Hit Procs / Sec
0.59 Crit Procs / Sec
0.87 Damage Procs / Sec
0.00 Dot Procs / Sec

AB3AM023MBAM: 5930.43 Dps
110.59 Mps
3374.27 Tps
1.05 Dps per Spell Power
1.04 Cast Procs / Sec
0.92 Hit Procs / Sec
0.62 Crit Procs / Sec
0.92 Damage Procs / Sec
0.00 Dot Procs / Sec

AB2AM: 5458.27 Dps
50.39 Mps
3101.57 Tps
0.98 Dps per Spell Power
1.14 Cast Procs / Sec
1.00 Hit Procs / Sec
0.68 Crit Procs / Sec
1.00 Damage Procs / Sec
0.00 Dot Procs / Sec

FrBDFFBIL: 4125.31 Dps
-17.83 Mps
3920.55 Tps
0.82 Dps per Spell Power
0.49 Cast Procs / Sec
0.49 Hit Procs / Sec
0.33 Crit Procs / Sec
0.49 Damage Procs / Sec
0.00 Dot Procs / Sec

ABSpam034MBAM: 7978.21 Dps
766.93 Mps
4572.19 Tps
1.37 Dps per Spell Power
0.59 Cast Procs / Sec
0.59 Hit Procs / Sec
0.40 Crit Procs / Sec
0.59 Damage Procs / Sec
0.00 Dot Procs / Sec

FrBDFFFB: NaN Dps
NaN Mps
NaN Tps
NaN Dps per Spell Power
NaN Cast Procs / Sec
NaN Hit Procs / Sec
NaN Crit Procs / Sec
NaN Damage Procs / Sec
NaN Dot Procs / Sec

Arcane Missiles: 4189.05 Dps
49.58 Mps
2367.87 Tps
3.39 sec
982.00 Mana
1938.31 - 1938.31 Hit
3522.87 - 3522.87 Crit
1.34x Amplify
67.77% Crit Rate
100.00% Hit Rate
1.82 Crit Multiplier

Arcane Barrage: 7269.02 Dps
229.33 Mps
4130.88 Tps
1.02 sec
570.00 Mana
4887.72 - 5167.00 Hit
8883.43 - 9391.02 Crit
1.34x Amplify
67.77% Crit Rate
100.00% Hit Rate
1.82 Crit Multiplier

Scorch: 5972.22 Dps
18.98 Mps
4840.22 Tps
1.02 sec
261.00 Mana
2787.61 - 2883.57 Hit
6971.49 - 7211.45 Crit
1.39x Amplify
76.77% Crit Rate
100.00% Hit Rate
2.50 Crit Multiplier

Fireball: 9634.76 Dps
63.20 Mps
7852.70 Tps
1.93 sec
620.00 Mana
8179.85 - 8561.44 Hit
20456.82 - 21411.13 Crit
1.56x Amplify
76.77% Crit Rate
100.00% Hit Rate
2.50 Crit Multiplier

Pyroblast: 6709.13 Dps
-8.65 Mps
5535.35 Tps
3.38 sec
718.00 Mana
9056.32 - 9530.42 Hit
22648.76 - 23834.43 Crit
1785.92 Dot
1.48x Amplify
79.77% Crit Rate
100.00% Hit Rate
2.50 Crit Multiplier

Frostbolt: 4125.31 Dps
-17.83 Mps
3920.55 Tps
2.03 sec
359.00 Mana
5435.34 - 5519.93 Hit
9878.73 - 10032.47 Crit
1.34x Amplify
67.77% Crit Rate
100.00% Hit Rate
1.82 Crit Multiplier

Fire Blast: 7380.13 Dps
304.12 Mps
6118.29 Tps
1.02 sec
686.00 Mana
3542.72 - 3779.13 Hit
8859.93 - 9451.15 Crit
1.39x Amplify
73.77% Crit Rate
100.00% Hit Rate
2.50 Crit Multiplier

Arcane Explosion: 24417.90 Dps
298.75 Mps
14650.74 Tps
1.02 sec
696.00 Mana
1776.33 - 1834.25 Hit
3228.47 - 3333.75 Crit
1.32x Amplify
73.77% Crit Rate
100.00% Hit Rate
1.82 Crit Multiplier

Flamestrike: 61084.09 Dps
727.48 Mps
54975.68 Tps
1.36 sec
1732.00 Mana
2452.09 - 2718.49 Hit
6132.38 - 6798.63 Crit
3589.71 Dot
1.37x Amplify
79.77% Crit Rate
100.00% Hit Rate
2.50 Crit Multiplier

Blizzard: 24657.93 Dps
152.20 Mps
24657.93 Tps
5.42 sec
2418.00 Mana
2401.67 - 2401.67 Hit
4365.04 - 4365.04 Crit
1.24x Amplify
73.77% Crit Rate
100.00% Hit Rate
1.82 Crit Multiplier

Blast Wave: 49954.27 Dps
-4.05 Mps
44958.84 Tps
1.02 sec
228.00 Mana
2560.57 - 2828.54 Hit
6403.67 - 7073.83 Crit
1.44x Amplify
79.77% Crit Rate
100.00% Hit Rate
2.50 Crit Multiplier

Dragon's Breath: 48636.80 Dps
-4.05 Mps
43773.12 Tps
1.02 sec
228.00 Mana
2501.90 - 2745.08 Hit
6256.95 - 6865.11 Crit
1.37x Amplify
79.77% Crit Rate
100.00% Hit Rate
2.50 Crit Multiplier

Cone of Cold: 26815.42 Dps
394.09 Mps
26815.42 Tps
1.02 sec
817.00 Mana
2001.02 - 2089.22 Hit
3636.85 - 3797.16 Crit
1.32x Amplify
67.77% Crit Rate
100.00% Hit Rate
1.82 Crit Multiplier

Frostfire Bolt: 7436.97 Dps
0.27 Mps
6388.07 Tps
2.03 sec
457.00 Mana
6698.00 - 6869.32 Hit
16750.89 - 17179.36 Crit
132.92 Dot
1.48x Amplify
76.77% Crit Rate
100.00% Hit Rate
2.50 Crit Multiplier

Living Bomb: 16307.33 Dps
329.22 Mps
13898.91 Tps
1.02 sec
718.00 Mana
2906.94 - 2906.94 Hit
7269.91 - 7269.91 Crit
11136.94 Dot
1.20x Amplify
79.77% Crit Rate
100.00% Hit Rate
2.50 Crit Multiplier

Ice Lance: 1432.79 Dps
-11.52 Mps
1360.03 Tps
1.02 sec
196.00 Mana
970.87 - 1015.35 Hit
1764.57 - 1845.40 Crit
1.27x Amplify
67.77% Crit Rate
100.00% Hit Rate
1.82 Crit Multiplier

Wand: 710.24 Dps
-121.16 Mps
639.22 Tps
1.75 sec
0.00 Mana
695.31 - 1291.13 Hit
1074.26 - 1994.79 Crit
1.20x Amplify
67.77% Crit Rate
100.00% Hit Rate
1.55 Crit Multiplier

Arcane Blast(0): 5094.52 Dps
-50.76 Mps
2919.59 Tps
1.69 sec
221.00 Mana
5535.37 - 5808.63 Hit
10060.53 - 10557.19 Crit
1.42x Amplify
67.77% Crit Rate
100.00% Hit Rate
1.82 Crit Multiplier

Arcane Blast(4): 7978.21 Dps
766.93 Mps
4572.19 Tps
1.69 sec
1768.00 Mana
8668.60 - 9096.54 Hit
15755.18 - 16532.95 Crit
2.23x Amplify
67.77% Crit Rate
100.00% Hit Rate
1.82 Crit Multiplier

Deep Freeze: 18460.93 Dps
52.49 Mps
17431.74 Tps
1.02 sec
294.00 Mana
12565.83 - 12891.91 Hit
22838.39 - 23431.04 Crit
1.20x Amplify
67.77% Crit Rate
100.00% Hit Rate
1.82 Crit Multiplier

MBAM: 7967.43 Dps
-264.52 Mps
4488.31 Tps
1.69 sec
0.00 Mana
1938.31 - 1938.31 Hit
3522.87 - 3522.87 Crit
1.34x Amplify
67.77% Crit Rate
100.00% Hit Rate
1.82 Crit Multiplier

Fire Ward: 4999.01 Absorb
203.82 Mps
Average Cast Time: 1.03
522.00 Mana

Frost Ward: 4999.01 Absorb
154.69 Mps
Average Cast Time: 1.03
457.00 Mana

Total Damage: 4363545.00
Upper Bound: 4363544.78
Lower Bound: 0.00

Score: 14547.99
Dps: 14545.15
Tps: 11745.88
Status: Score: 14547.99, Dps: 14545.15, Survivability: 2.84
Sequence: 
Disabled

Spell Cycles: 
Molten Armor
Evocation: 0.12x (3944.95 mps)
Mana Gem: 3.00x
Summon Mirror Image: 2.00x
FBLBPyro: 179.40 sec (12895.25 dps, 138.76 mps, 10496.54 tps)
Molten Fury+FBLBPyro: 50.00 sec (14442.68 dps, 138.76 mps, 11756.12 tps)
Heroism+Molten Fury+FBLBPyro: 10.00 sec (17572.62 dps, 197.55 mps, 14265.38 tps)
Mirror Image+FBLBPyro: 22.79 sec (15896.53 dps, 138.76 mps, 12385.91 tps)
Combustion+Mirror Image+FBLBPyro: 5.15 sec (19519.58 dps, 138.10 mps, 15331.99 tps)
Heroism+Molten Fury+Mirror Image+FBLBPyro: 10.74 sec (21417.26 dps, 197.55 mps, 16833.15 tps)
Combustion+Heroism+Molten Fury+Mirror Image+FBLBPyro: 4.26 sec (26224.53 dps, 194.56 mps, 20733.31 tps)
Potion of Wild Magic+Heroism+Molten Fury+Mirror Image+FBLBPyro: 15.00 sec (23103.55 dps, 195.73 mps, 18254.49 tps)


By Spell: 
Fireball: 45.55%, 1987728.00 Damage, 128.08 Hits
Ignite: 23.15%, 1009996.00 Damage, 58.67 Hits
Pyroblast: 20.60%, 899033.40 Damage, 51.49 Hits
Living Bomb: 8.88%, 387401.00 Damage, 23.22 Hits
Mirror Image: 0.94%, 41073.38 Damage, 72.00 Hits


Minimum Range: 0.00
Threat Reduction: 19.25%

Code:

#!./simc 

mage=generic
origin=
level=80
race=human
use_pre_potion=-1
talents=http://www.wowarmory.com/talent-calc.xml?cid=8&tal=23000503310003000000000000000000550310113033300531203003510000000000000000000000000000
glyphs=fire_ball/molten_armor/living_bomb
actions=flask,type=frost_wyrm
actions+=/food,type=fish_feast
actions+=/arcane_brilliance
actions+=/focus_magic
actions+=/snapshot_stats
actions+=/counterspell
actions+=/scorch,debuff=1
actions+=/combustion
actions+=/mana_gem
actions+=/speed_potion
actions+=/living_bomb
actions+=/pyroblast,hot_streak=1
actions+=/mirror_image
actions+=/fire_ball
actions+=/evocation
actions+=/fire_blast,moving=1
actions+=/ice_lance,moving=1
head=sanctified_bloodmage_hood,heroic=1,stats=300armor_122crit_98haste_139int_186sp_139sta,gems=chaotic_skyflare_10spi_12sp_9sp,enchant=30sp_20crit
neck=amulet_of_the_silent_eulogy,heroic=1,stats=68haste_60hit_78int_110sp_78sta,gems=10hit_12sp_5sp
shoulders=sanctified_bloodmage_shoulderpads,heroic=1,stats=277armor_90crit_82haste_103int_150sp_103sta,gems=10haste_12sp_5sp,enchant=24sp_15crit
chest=sanctified_bloodmage_robe,heroic=1,stats=369armor_106crit_122haste_139int_195sp_139sta,gems=23sp_10spi_12sp_7sp,enchant=10str_10agi_10sta_10int_10spi
waist=crushing_coldwraith_belt,heroic=1,stats=208armor_74crit_90haste_103int_140sp_103sta,gems=10spi_12sp_23sp_23sp_7sp
legs=sanctified_bloodmage_leggings,heroic=1,stats=323armor_122crit_106hit_139int_195sp_139sta,gems=10spi_12sp_10hit_12sp_7sp,enchant=50sp_20spi
feet=plague_scientists_boots,heroic=1,stats=254armor_74crit_90haste_103int_140sp_103sta,gems=10spi_12sp_23sp_7sp,enchant=15sta
wrists=the_ladys_brittle_bracers,heroic=1,stats=162armor_73crit_52hit_78int_110sp_78sta,gems=10haste_12sp_5sp,enchant=30sp
hands=sanctified_bloodmage_gloves,heroic=1,stats=231armor_90crit_82hit_103int_150sp_103sta,gems=10spi_12sp_5sp,enchant=28sp
finger1=ashen_band_of_endless_destruction,stats=64haste_51hit_73int_101sp_73sta,gems=10haste_12sp_5sp,enchant=23sp,equip=onspellcasthit_285sp_10%_10dur_60cd
finger2=ring_of_rapid_ascent,heroic=1,stats=68crit_60haste_78int_110sp_78sta,gems=10spi_12sp_5sp,enchant=23sp
trinket1=dislodged_foreign_object,heroic=1,stats=170haste,equip=onspellcast_121sp_10stack_10%_20dur_45cd_2tick
trinket2=phylactery_of_the_nameless_lich,heroic=1,stats=172crit,equip=onspelltickdamage_1206sp_30%_20dur_100cd
back=frostbinders_shredded_cape,heroic=1,stats=185armor_68crit_60haste_78int_110sp_78sta,gems=10haste_12sp_5sp
main_hand=bloodsurge_kelthuzads_blade_of_agony,heroic=1,stats=55crit_71haste_81int_893sp_81sta,gems=23sp,enchant=black_magic,weapon=sword_1.80speed_160min_447max
off_hand=shadow_silk_spindle,heroic=1,stats=68crit_68haste_78int_119sp_78sta
ranged=corpseimpaling_spike,heroic=1,stats=38crit_30haste_44int_58sp_44sta,gems=10haste_12sp_5sp
# Gear Summary
# gear_strength=10
# gear_agility=10
# gear_stamina=1442
# gear_intellect=1427
# gear_spirit=100
# gear_spell_power=3335
# gear_hit_rating=371
# gear_crit_rating=1276
# gear_haste_rating=1123
# gear_armor=2309
# meta_gem=chaotic_skyflare
# tier10_2pc_caster=1
# tier10_4pc_caster=1
# main_hand=bloodsurge_kelthuzads_blade_of_agony,heroic=1,weapon=sword_1.80speed_160min_447max,enchant=black_magic
armor_type=molten

**DirewolfX** · 2010-04-21, 11:44 PM

Code:

Head	Sanctified Bloodmage Hood
Neck	Blood Queen's Crimson Choker
Shoulders	Sanctified Bloodmage Shoulderpads
Chest	Sanctified Bloodmage Robe
Waist	Crushing Coldwraith Belt
Legs	Sanctified Bloodmage Leggings
Feet	Plague Scientist's Boots
Wrist	The Lady's Brittle Bracers
Hands	Gunship Captain's Mittens
Finger1	Ashen Band of Endless Destruction
Finger2	Ring of Rapid Ascent
Trinket1	Dislodged Foreign Object
Trinket2	Reign of the Unliving
Back	Frostbinder's Shredded Cape
MainHand	Bloodsurge, Kel'Thuzad's Blade of Agony
OffHand	Shadow Silk Spindle
Ranged	Corpse-Impaling Spike
Character:		@US-
Race:		Human
Stamina: 1987
Intellect: 1891
Spirit: 406
Armor: 2537
Health: 28382
Mana: 31353
Crit Rate: 59.30%
1302.3 Crit Rating

Hit Rate: 17.17%
293 Hit Rating
Arcane	100.00% (4 hit rating over cap)
Fire	100.00% (4 hit rating over cap)
Frost	100.00% (4 hit rating over cap)

Spell Penetration: 0
Haste: 47.56%
1195 Haste Rating

Arcane Damage: 4012
Fire Damage: 4012
Frost Damage: 4012
MP5: 109
Mana Regen: 717
Mana Regen in 5SR: 422
Mana Regen Drinking: 3917

Health Regen: 0
Health Regen Eating: 3813

Arcane Resist: 75
Fire Resist: 75
Nature Resist: 75
Frost Resist: 75
Shadow Resist: 75
Physical Mitigation: 13.23%
Resilience: 0.00
0.00 Damage Taken Reduction

Defense: 400
Crit Reduction: 5.00%
Spell Crit Reduction: 5.00%
Physical Crit Reduction: 5.00%
Crit Damage Reduction: 0.00%

Dodge: 5.73%
Chance to Die: 0.00%
Mean Incoming Dps: 0.00
FBPyro: 4093.67 Dps
103.68 Mps
3919.40 Tps
0.73 Dps per Spell Power
0.43 Cast Procs / Sec
0.43 Hit Procs / Sec
0.25 Crit Procs / Sec
0.85 Damage Procs / Sec
0.43 Dot Procs / Sec

FFBPyro: 5952.91 Dps
74.25 Mps
5138.09 Tps
1.10 Dps per Spell Power
0.50 Cast Procs / Sec
0.50 Hit Procs / Sec
0.36 Crit Procs / Sec
0.50 Damage Procs / Sec
0.00 Dot Procs / Sec

FBScPyro: 4093.67 Dps
103.68 Mps
3919.40 Tps
0.73 Dps per Spell Power
0.43 Cast Procs / Sec
0.43 Hit Procs / Sec
0.25 Crit Procs / Sec
0.85 Damage Procs / Sec
0.43 Dot Procs / Sec

FFBScPyro: 5952.91 Dps
74.25 Mps
5138.09 Tps
1.10 Dps per Spell Power
0.50 Cast Procs / Sec
0.50 Hit Procs / Sec
0.36 Crit Procs / Sec
0.50 Damage Procs / Sec
0.00 Dot Procs / Sec

FBLBPyro: 4461.48 Dps
129.95 Mps
4269.05 Tps
0.79 Dps per Spell Power
0.47 Cast Procs / Sec
0.47 Hit Procs / Sec
0.28 Crit Procs / Sec
0.86 Damage Procs / Sec
0.39 Dot Procs / Sec

FrBFB: 9094.10 Dps
53.89 Mps
7876.71 Tps
1.70 Dps per Spell Power
0.68 Cast Procs / Sec
0.68 Hit Procs / Sec
0.50 Crit Procs / Sec
0.68 Damage Procs / Sec
0.00 Dot Procs / Sec

FrBIL: 8758.40 Dps
70.08 Mps
7517.78 Tps
1.62 Dps per Spell Power
0.67 Cast Procs / Sec
0.67 Hit Procs / Sec
0.51 Crit Procs / Sec
0.67 Damage Procs / Sec
0.00 Dot Procs / Sec

FrBILFB: 8778.14 Dps
55.77 Mps
7591.77 Tps
1.62 Dps per Spell Power
0.69 Cast Procs / Sec
0.69 Hit Procs / Sec
0.51 Crit Procs / Sec
0.69 Damage Procs / Sec
0.00 Dot Procs / Sec

FBScLBPyro: 4461.48 Dps
129.95 Mps
4269.05 Tps
0.79 Dps per Spell Power
0.47 Cast Procs / Sec
0.47 Hit Procs / Sec
0.28 Crit Procs / Sec
0.86 Damage Procs / Sec
0.39 Dot Procs / Sec

ScLBPyro: 4042.03 Dps
119.97 Mps
3839.69 Tps
0.69 Dps per Spell Power
0.95 Cast Procs / Sec
0.95 Hit Procs / Sec
0.56 Crit Procs / Sec
0.95 Damage Procs / Sec
0.00 Dot Procs / Sec

FFBLBPyro: 5698.89 Dps
103.25 Mps
4979.43 Tps
1.04 Dps per Spell Power
0.53 Cast Procs / Sec
0.53 Hit Procs / Sec
0.32 Crit Procs / Sec
0.53 Damage Procs / Sec
0.00 Dot Procs / Sec

FFBScLBPyro: 5698.89 Dps
103.25 Mps
4979.43 Tps
1.04 Dps per Spell Power
0.53 Cast Procs / Sec
0.53 Hit Procs / Sec
0.32 Crit Procs / Sec
0.53 Damage Procs / Sec
0.00 Dot Procs / Sec

FrBFBIL: 8855.59 Dps
55.97 Mps
7663.33 Tps
1.64 Dps per Spell Power
0.69 Cast Procs / Sec
0.69 Hit Procs / Sec
0.51 Crit Procs / Sec
0.69 Damage Procs / Sec
0.00 Dot Procs / Sec

ABSpam04MBAM: 7216.21 Dps
750.73 Mps
6914.42 Tps
1.15 Dps per Spell Power
0.60 Cast Procs / Sec
0.60 Hit Procs / Sec
0.35 Crit Procs / Sec
0.60 Damage Procs / Sec
0.00 Dot Procs / Sec

ABSpam024MBAM: 7216.21 Dps
750.73 Mps
6914.42 Tps
1.15 Dps per Spell Power
0.60 Cast Procs / Sec
0.60 Hit Procs / Sec
0.35 Crit Procs / Sec
0.60 Damage Procs / Sec
0.00 Dot Procs / Sec

ABSpam0234MBAM: 7216.21 Dps
750.73 Mps
6914.42 Tps
1.15 Dps per Spell Power
0.60 Cast Procs / Sec
0.60 Hit Procs / Sec
0.35 Crit Procs / Sec
0.60 Damage Procs / Sec
0.00 Dot Procs / Sec

AB4AM0234MBAM: 5863.39 Dps
227.53 Mps
5591.00 Tps
0.94 Dps per Spell Power
0.98 Cast Procs / Sec
0.88 Hit Procs / Sec
0.52 Crit Procs / Sec
0.88 Damage Procs / Sec
0.00 Dot Procs / Sec

AB3AM023MBAM: 5491.59 Dps
161.79 Mps
5233.41 Tps
0.88 Dps per Spell Power
1.05 Cast Procs / Sec
0.93 Hit Procs / Sec
0.55 Crit Procs / Sec
0.93 Damage Procs / Sec
0.00 Dot Procs / Sec

AB2AM: 5090.46 Dps
109.53 Mps
4847.23 Tps
0.82 Dps per Spell Power
1.16 Cast Procs / Sec
1.02 Hit Procs / Sec
0.60 Crit Procs / Sec
1.02 Damage Procs / Sec
0.00 Dot Procs / Sec

FrBDFFBIL: 9669.19 Dps
62.58 Mps
8355.36 Tps
1.79 Dps per Spell Power
0.71 Cast Procs / Sec
0.71 Hit Procs / Sec
0.53 Crit Procs / Sec
0.71 Damage Procs / Sec
0.00 Dot Procs / Sec

ABSpam034MBAM: 7216.21 Dps
750.73 Mps
6914.42 Tps
1.15 Dps per Spell Power
0.60 Cast Procs / Sec
0.60 Hit Procs / Sec
0.35 Crit Procs / Sec
0.60 Damage Procs / Sec
0.00 Dot Procs / Sec

FrBDFFFB: 9950.53 Dps
63.83 Mps
8528.43 Tps
1.86 Dps per Spell Power
0.70 Cast Procs / Sec
0.70 Hit Procs / Sec
0.52 Crit Procs / Sec
0.70 Damage Procs / Sec
0.00 Dot Procs / Sec

Arcane Missiles: 4024.03 Dps
122.11 Mps
3459.44 Tps
3.33 sec
884.00 Mana
1966.02 - 1966.02 Hit
3037.51 - 3037.51 Crit
1.30x Amplify
59.30% Crit Rate
100.00% Hit Rate
1.55 Crit Multiplier

Arcane Barrage: 6666.77 Dps
336.32 Mps
6028.02 Tps
1.00 sec
513.00 Mana
4955.79 - 5226.94 Hit
7656.70 - 8075.62 Crit
1.30x Amplify
59.30% Crit Rate
100.00% Hit Rate
1.55 Crit Multiplier

Scorch: 3618.93 Dps
91.30 Mps
3119.96 Tps
1.00 sec
227.00 Mana
2592.60 - 2677.73 Hit
4005.57 - 4137.10 Crit
1.23x Amplify
59.30% Crit Rate
100.00% Hit Rate
1.55 Crit Multiplier

Fireball: 4093.67 Dps
103.68 Mps
3705.54 Tps
2.33 sec
541.00 Mana
6784.55 - 7123.09 Hit
10482.13 - 11005.17 Crit
160.29 Dot
1.38x Amplify
59.30% Crit Rate
100.00% Hit Rate
1.55 Crit Multiplier

Pyroblast: 3666.92 Dps
64.57 Mps
3364.30 Tps
3.33 sec
626.00 Mana
7591.72 - 8010.17 Hit
11729.21 - 12375.71 Crit
1635.20 Dot
1.30x Amplify
59.30% Crit Rate
100.00% Hit Rate
1.55 Crit Multiplier

Frostbolt: 9100.07 Dps
72.45 Mps
7494.54 Tps
1.53 sec
313.00 Mana
7426.97 - 7527.74 Hit
15522.36 - 15732.98 Crit
1.52x Amplify
76.18% Crit Rate
100.00% Hit Rate
2.09 Crit Multiplier

Fire Blast: 4485.85 Dps
409.14 Mps
3986.88 Tps
1.00 sec
598.00 Mana
3262.52 - 3472.26 Hit
5040.60 - 5364.64 Crit
1.23x Amplify
59.30% Crit Rate
100.00% Hit Rate
1.55 Crit Multiplier

Arcane Explosion: 20170.63 Dps
433.13 Mps
19855.34 Tps
1.00 sec
626.00 Mana
1724.41 - 1778.69 Hit
2664.21 - 2748.08 Crit
1.23x Amplify
59.30% Crit Rate
100.00% Hit Rate
1.55 Crit Multiplier

Flamestrike: 41684.76 Dps
908.06 Mps
41400.15 Tps
1.33 sec
1512.00 Mana
2152.88 - 2379.84 Hit
3326.20 - 3676.85 Crit
3186.59 Dot
1.16x Amplify
59.30% Crit Rate
100.00% Hit Rate
1.55 Crit Multiplier

Blizzard: 27994.80 Dps
239.62 Mps
24942.46 Tps
5.34 sec
2110.00 Mana
2588.68 - 2588.68 Hit
5410.33 - 5410.33 Crit
1.30x Amplify
59.30% Crit Rate
100.00% Hit Rate
2.09 Crit Multiplier

Blast Wave: 27082.25 Dps
67.31 Mps
26766.96 Tps
1.00 sec
199.00 Mana
2246.52 - 2476.00 Hit
3470.88 - 3825.42 Crit
1.23x Amplify
59.30% Crit Rate
100.00% Hit Rate
1.55 Crit Multiplier

Dragon's Breath: 26226.83 Dps
67.31 Mps
25911.54 Tps
1.00 sec
199.00 Mana
2182.21 - 2389.39 Hit
3371.52 - 3691.60 Crit
1.16x Amplify
59.30% Crit Rate
100.00% Hit Rate
1.55 Crit Multiplier

Cone of Cold: 31339.88 Dps
507.66 Mps
27922.13 Tps
1.00 sec
713.00 Mana
2153.60 - 2245.60 Hit
4501.03 - 4693.31 Crit
1.37x Amplify
59.30% Crit Rate
100.00% Hit Rate
2.09 Crit Multiplier

Frostfire Bolt: 5952.91 Dps
74.25 Mps
4864.66 Tps
2.00 sec
398.00 Mana
6338.71 - 6515.43 Hit
13247.91 - 13617.24 Crit
137.11 Dot
1.52x Amplify
73.18% Crit Rate
100.00% Hit Rate
2.09 Crit Multiplier

Living Bomb: 8663.56 Dps
433.13 Mps
7942.09 Tps
1.00 sec
626.00 Mana
2670.92 - 2670.92 Hit
4126.57 - 4126.57 Crit
5341.84 Dot
1.16x Amplify
59.30% Crit Rate
100.00% Hit Rate
1.55 Crit Multiplier

Ice Lance: 2132.88 Dps
43.33 Mps
1555.68 Tps
1.00 sec
171.00 Mana
1148.13 - 1198.59 Hit
2399.59 - 2505.06 Crit
1.44x Amplify
59.30% Crit Rate
100.00% Hit Rate
2.09 Crit Multiplier

Wand: 666.32 Dps
-84.51 Mps
666.32 Tps
1.75 sec
0.00 Mana
675.06 - 1253.52 Hit
1042.97 - 1936.69 Crit
1.16x Amplify
59.30% Crit Rate
100.00% Hit Rate
1.55 Crit Multiplier

Arcane Blast(0): 4700.64 Dps
2.84 Mps
4251.46 Tps
1.67 sec
199.00 Mana
5597.21 - 5862.51 Hit
8647.68 - 9057.57 Crit
1.38x Amplify
59.30% Crit Rate
100.00% Hit Rate
1.55 Crit Multiplier

Arcane Blast(4): 7216.21 Dps
750.73 Mps
6657.95 Tps
1.67 sec
1592.00 Mana
8765.43 - 9180.91 Hit
13542.59 - 14184.50 Crit
2.16x Amplify
59.30% Crit Rate
100.00% Hit Rate
1.55 Crit Multiplier

Deep Freeze: 28907.94 Dps
116.15 Mps
24206.15 Tps
1.00 sec
256.00 Mana
14205.77 - 14558.12 Hit
29690.06 - 30426.48 Crit
1.30x Amplify
100.00% Crit Rate
100.00% Hit Rate
2.09 Crit Multiplier

MBAM: 7380.19 Dps
-119.53 Mps
6552.04 Tps
1.67 sec
0.00 Mana
1966.02 - 1966.02 Hit
3037.51 - 3037.51 Crit
1.30x Amplify
59.30% Crit Rate
100.00% Hit Rate
1.55 Crit Multiplier

Fire Ward: 5181.01 Absorb
281.07 Mps
Average Cast Time: 1.02
456.00 Mana

Frost Ward: 5181.01 Absorb
232.97 Mps
Average Cast Time: 1.02
399.00 Mana

Total Damage: 3692898.00
Upper Bound: 3692897.99
Lower Bound: 0.00

Score: 12312.50
Dps: 12309.66
Tps: 9478.98
Status: Score: 12312.50, Dps: 12309.66, Survivability: 2.84
Sequence: 
Disabled

Spell Cycles: 
Molten Armor
Summon Mirror Image: 2.00x
Water Elemental+FrBDFFFB: 197.97 sec (11013.78 dps, 63.83 mps, 8528.43 tps)
Heroism+Water Elemental+FrBDFFFB: 10.00 sec (13933.94 dps, 104.08 mps, 10716.31 tps)
Icy Veins+Water Elemental+FrBDFFFB: 32.03 sec (12771.44 dps, 91.01 mps, 10007.57 tps)
Heroism+Water Elemental+Mirror Image+FrBDFFFB: 15.00 sec (16873.70 dps, 104.08 mps, 12645.25 tps)
Potion of Speed+Heroism+Water Elemental+Mirror Image+FrBDFFFB: 15.00 sec (18301.44 dps, 122.86 mps, 13844.81 tps)
Icy Veins+Water Elemental+Mirror Image+FrBDFFFB: 27.97 sec (15559.10 dps, 91.01 mps, 11808.93 tps)


By Spell: 
Frostbolt: 73.43%, 2711600.00 Damage, 194.38 Hits
Waterbolt: 8.93%, 329794.80 Damage, 134.09 Hits
Frostfire Bolt: 7.71%, 284858.70 Damage, 24.13 Hits
Deep Freeze: 6.08%, 224677.20 Damage, 7.28 Hits
Fire Damage Proc: 2.74%, 101180.90 Damage, 95.51 Hits
Mirror Image: 1.10%, 40787.00 Damage, 72.00 Hits


Minimum Range: 0.00
Threat Reduction: 23.00%

Code:

#!./simc 

mage=generic
origin=
level=80
race=human
use_pre_potion=-1
talents=http://www.wowarmory.com/talent-calc.xml?cid=8&tal=00500503110003000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000533030310033100230152231351
glyphs=frost_bolt/molten_armor/eternal_water
actions=flask,type=frost_wyrm
actions+=/food,type=fish_feast
actions+=/water_elemental
actions+=/arcane_brilliance
actions+=/focus_magic
actions+=/snapshot_stats
actions+=/counterspell
actions+=/icy_veins
actions+=/mana_gem
actions+=/speed_potion
actions+=/deep_freeze
actions+=/frost_bolt,frozen=1
actions+=/cold_snap,if=cooldown.deep_freeze.remains>15
actions+=/frostfire_bolt,if=buff.brain_freeze.react
actions+=/mirror_image
actions+=/frost_bolt
actions+=/evocation
actions+=/ice_lance,moving=1,frozen=1
actions+=/fire_blast,moving=1
actions+=/ice_lance,moving=1
head=sanctified_bloodmage_hood,heroic=1,stats=300armor_122crit_98haste_139int_186sp_139sta,gems=chaotic_skyflare_10spi_12sp_9sp,enchant=30sp_20crit
neck=blood_queens_crimson_choker,heroic=1,stats=65crit_60haste_78int_110sp_78sta,gems=23sp
shoulders=sanctified_bloodmage_shoulderpads,heroic=1,stats=277armor_90crit_82haste_103int_150sp_103sta,gems=10haste_12sp_5sp,enchant=24sp_15crit
chest=sanctified_bloodmage_robe,heroic=1,stats=369armor_106crit_122haste_139int_195sp_139sta,gems=23sp_23sp,enchant=10str_10agi_10sta_10int_10spi
waist=crushing_coldwraith_belt,heroic=1,stats=208armor_74crit_90haste_103int_140sp_103sta,gems=23sp_23sp_23sp
legs=sanctified_bloodmage_leggings,heroic=1,stats=323armor_122crit_106hit_139int_195sp_139sta,gems=23sp_23sp,enchant=50sp_20spi
feet=plague_scientists_boots,heroic=1,stats=254armor_74crit_90haste_103int_140sp_103sta,gems=23sp_23sp,enchant=15sta
wrists=the_ladys_brittle_bracers,heroic=1,stats=162armor_73crit_52hit_78int_110sp_78sta,gems=10haste_12sp_5sp,enchant=30sp
hands=gunship_captains_mittens,heroic=1,stats=231armor_90haste_74hit_103int_140sp_103sta,gems=23sp_23sp,enchant=28sp
finger1=ashen_band_of_endless_destruction,stats=64haste_51hit_73int_101sp_73sta,gems=10hit_12sp_5sp,enchant=23sp,equip=onspellcasthit_285sp_10%_10dur_60cd
finger2=ring_of_rapid_ascent,heroic=1,stats=68crit_60haste_78int_110sp_78sta,gems=23sp,enchant=23sp
trinket1=dislodged_foreign_object,heroic=1,stats=170haste,equip=onspellcast_121sp_10stack_10%_20dur_45cd_2tick
trinket2=reign_of_the_unliving,heroic=1,stats=168sp,equip=onspelldirectcrit_2117fire_3stack_2.0cd
back=frostbinders_shredded_cape,heroic=1,stats=185armor_68crit_60haste_78int_110sp_78sta,gems=10haste_12sp_5sp
main_hand=bloodsurge_kelthuzads_blade_of_agony,heroic=1,stats=55crit_71haste_81int_893sp_81sta,gems=23sp,enchant=black_magic,weapon=sword_1.80speed_160min_447max
off_hand=shadow_silk_spindle,heroic=1,stats=68crit_68haste_78int_119sp_78sta
ranged=corpseimpaling_spike,heroic=1,stats=38crit_30haste_44int_58sp_44sta,gems=10haste_12sp_5sp
# Gear Summary
# gear_strength=10
# gear_agility=10
# gear_stamina=1442
# gear_intellect=1427
# gear_spirit=40
# gear_spell_power=3561
# gear_hit_rating=293
# gear_crit_rating=1079
# gear_haste_rating=1195
# gear_armor=2309
# meta_gem=chaotic_skyflare
# tier10_2pc_caster=1
# tier10_4pc_caster=1
# main_hand=bloodsurge_kelthuzads_blade_of_agony,heroic=1,weapon=sword_1.80speed_160min_447max,enchant=black_magic
armor_type=molten

**DirewolfX** · 2010-04-21, 11:48 PM

Things to work on:

Simulating movement fights in Simulation Craft? I'm relatively new to it. Any experienced SimCraft users who want to help me setup some more interesting fight conditions for the comparisons would be nice.

More gear setups. Even the 25 man heroic gear setups were just hastily thrown together and roughly optimized. There could be some solid stronger setups if people want to look for them. Also, I need gear setups for 25 man normal and 10 mans. I'll probably get around to the 25 man normal setups, but I don't really have a big interest in pure 10 man gear setups. If anyone wants to contribute suggested gear setups, that would help.

**hawkwah** · 2010-04-22, 12:00 AM

As an additional spec, could you include a scorch based spec please that uses:

Scorch as primary nuke with Scorch glyph replacing fireball.
Keeping LB up
using hot streak ASAP.
If Heroism is up and your scorch drops below 1 sec cast, use fireball.

Remove the 5 points in improved fireball and put them into incineration and Improved Fireblast.

Since frost rotation doesn't change, Arcane rotation doesn't vary, the only other one I have seen a few Mages using are scorch based. Be interesting to see how far behind it is with a BiS setup over the standard fireball spec.

**fabian** · 2010-04-22, 12:04 AM

With the current 25 man HM dps in the post, Fire is behind Arcane by 3.03%, frost behind fire by 13.65% and frost behind arcane by 16.67%, just to give a relative idea for each spec compared to each other.

**DirewolfX** · 2010-04-22, 12:16 AM

Hawkwah: I'm not going to add it to the thread, because I don't think it's a reasonable spec, but here are your numbers:

DPS: 11416

Code:

#!./simc 

mage=generic
origin=
level=80
race=human
use_pre_potion=-1
talents=http://www.wowarmory.com/talent-calc.xml?cid=8&tal=23000503310003000000000000000023050310113033300531203003510000000000000000000000000000
glyphs=improved_scorch/molten_armor/living_bomb
actions=flask,type=frost_wyrm
actions+=/food,type=fish_feast
actions+=/arcane_brilliance
actions+=/focus_magic
actions+=/snapshot_stats
actions+=/counterspell
actions+=/scorch,debuff=1
actions+=/combustion
actions+=/mana_gem
actions+=/speed_potion
actions+=/living_bomb
actions+=/pyroblast,hot_streak=1
actions+=/mirror_image
actions+=/fire_ball,if=buff.bloodlust.up
actions+=/scorch
actions+=/evocation
actions+=/fire_blast,moving=1
actions+=/ice_lance,moving=1
head=sanctified_bloodmage_hood,heroic=1,stats=300armor_122crit_98haste_139int_186sp_139sta,gems=chaotic_skyflare_10spi_12sp_9sp,enchant=30sp_20crit
neck=amulet_of_the_silent_eulogy,heroic=1,stats=68haste_60hit_78int_110sp_78sta,gems=10hit_12sp_5sp
shoulders=sanctified_bloodmage_shoulderpads,heroic=1,stats=277armor_90crit_82haste_103int_150sp_103sta,gems=10haste_12sp_5sp,enchant=24sp_15crit
chest=sanctified_bloodmage_robe,heroic=1,stats=369armor_106crit_122haste_139int_195sp_139sta,gems=23sp_10spi_12sp_7sp,enchant=10str_10agi_10sta_10int_10spi
waist=crushing_coldwraith_belt,heroic=1,stats=208armor_74crit_90haste_103int_140sp_103sta,gems=10spi_12sp_23sp_23sp_7sp
legs=sanctified_bloodmage_leggings,heroic=1,stats=323armor_122crit_106hit_139int_195sp_139sta,gems=10spi_12sp_10hit_12sp_7sp,enchant=50sp_20spi
feet=plague_scientists_boots,heroic=1,stats=254armor_74crit_90haste_103int_140sp_103sta,gems=10spi_12sp_23sp_7sp,enchant=15sta
wrists=the_ladys_brittle_bracers,heroic=1,stats=162armor_73crit_52hit_78int_110sp_78sta,gems=10haste_12sp_5sp,enchant=30sp
hands=sanctified_bloodmage_gloves,heroic=1,stats=231armor_90crit_82hit_103int_150sp_103sta,gems=10spi_12sp_5sp,enchant=28sp
finger1=ashen_band_of_endless_destruction,stats=64haste_51hit_73int_101sp_73sta,gems=10haste_12sp_5sp,enchant=23sp,equip=onspellcasthit_285sp_10%_10dur_60cd
finger2=ring_of_rapid_ascent,heroic=1,stats=68crit_60haste_78int_110sp_78sta,gems=10spi_12sp_5sp,enchant=23sp
trinket1=dislodged_foreign_object,heroic=1,stats=170haste,equip=onspellcast_121sp_10stack_10%_20dur_45cd_2tick
trinket2=phylactery_of_the_nameless_lich,heroic=1,stats=172crit,equip=onspelltickdamage_1206sp_30%_20dur_100cd
back=frostbinders_shredded_cape,heroic=1,stats=185armor_68crit_60haste_78int_110sp_78sta,gems=10haste_12sp_5sp
main_hand=bloodsurge_kelthuzads_blade_of_agony,heroic=1,stats=55crit_71haste_81int_893sp_81sta,gems=23sp,enchant=black_magic,weapon=sword_1.80speed_160min_447max
off_hand=shadow_silk_spindle,heroic=1,stats=68crit_68haste_78int_119sp_78sta
ranged=corpseimpaling_spike,heroic=1,stats=38crit_30haste_44int_58sp_44sta,gems=10haste_12sp_5sp
# Gear Summary
# gear_strength=10
# gear_agility=10
# gear_stamina=1442
# gear_intellect=1427
# gear_spirit=100
# gear_spell_power=3335
# gear_hit_rating=371
# gear_crit_rating=1276
# gear_haste_rating=1123
# gear_armor=2309
# meta_gem=chaotic_skyflare
# tier10_2pc_caster=1
# tier10_4pc_caster=1
# main_hand=bloodsurge_kelthuzads_blade_of_agony,heroic=1,weapon=sword_1.80speed_160min_447max,enchant=black_magic
armor_type=molten

**takolin** · 2010-04-22, 08:07 AM

I don't want to be a complete ass and yes this might sound a bit like a flame, but this is a complete useless thing to do.
No fight in ICC25 is a pure tank and spank with the possible exception of normal mode festergut where you Ice block the pungent blight. All the other fights have some form of movement and/or target switching that will influence the results.

Thus you should compare the strong and weak points of each spec and then see how they interact with the current fight mechanics to see what will perform better on a specific boss.

My opinion about that, is the following.

Fire's plus points:

Less mana dependant than fire.
Will do more damage on bosses who're below 35% due to molten fury.
Will do damage during movement with ticking DoTs, refreshing of LB, possible HS pyro's and F-blast that can proc a HS
Superior range assuming you got an affliction/demo lock.

Fire's negative points:

No controllable burst
Doesn't perform too well on adds that die fast.

Arcane's plus points

Controllable burst due to quite a few CDs and the AB mechanics
Can switch to adds without many issues

Arcane's negative points:

Doesn't do damage during movement. Abarr is there but at the cost of AB stacks.

Feel free to add anything if I forgot something, but those should be biggest influencing factors.

Knowing these things, fire has a considerable advantage over arcane on all fights with the obvious exception of VDW and possibly Saurfang.

This tool will be a more useful than any simulation craft as it checks the logs of the top 200 for the past 2 weeks and makes a pretty list of the top specs. And yes it are top people playing but that still has a higher realism value than a pure theory crafted model.

**Nighty** · 2010-04-22, 11:32 AM

would it be possible to get some numbers for an ffb spec?

**Rugz** · 2010-04-22, 11:41 AM

How are you handling profession buffs etc, just omitting them all and running sims from a human mage perspective?

**Rugz** · 2010-04-22, 12:02 PM

Code:

#!./simc 

mage=GenericFire
origin=
level=80
race=human
use_pre_potion=-1
talents=http://www.wowarmory.com/talent-calc.xml?cid=8&tal=23002503010003000000000000000000550320113033300531203003510000000000000000000000000000
glyphs=fire_ball/molten_armor/living_bomb
actions=flask,type=frost_wyrm
actions+=/food,type=fish_feast
actions+=/arcane_brilliance
actions+=/focus_magic
actions+=/snapshot_stats
actions+=/counterspell
actions+=/scorch,debuff=1
actions+=/combustion
actions+=/mana_gem
actions+=/speed_potion
actions+=/living_bomb
actions+=/pyroblast,hot_streak=1
actions+=/mirror_image
actions+=/fire_ball
actions+=/evocation
actions+=/fire_blast,moving=1
actions+=/ice_lance,moving=1
head=sanctified_bloodmage_hood,heroic=1,stats=300armor_122crit_98haste_139int_186sp_139sta,gems=chaotic_skyflare_10spi_12sp_9sp,enchant=30sp_20crit
neck=amulet_of_the_silent_eulogy,heroic=1,stats=68haste_60hit_78int_110sp_78sta,gems=10crit_12sp_5sp
shoulders=sanctified_bloodmage_shoulderpads,heroic=1,stats=277armor_90crit_82haste_103int_150sp_103sta,gems=10crit_12sp_5sp,enchant=24sp_15crit
chest=sanctified_bloodmage_robe,heroic=1,stats=369armor_106crit_122haste_139int_195sp_139sta,gems=23sp_10spi_12sp_7sp,enchant=10str_10agi_10sta_10int_10spi
waist=crushing_coldwraith_belt,heroic=1,stats=208armor_74crit_90haste_103int_140sp_103sta,gems=10spi_12sp_23sp_23sp_7sp
legs=sanctified_bloodmage_leggings,heroic=1,stats=323armor_122crit_106hit_139int_195sp_139sta,gems=10spi_12sp_10crit_12sp_7sp,enchant=50sp_20spi
feet=plague_scientists_boots,heroic=1,stats=254armor_74crit_90haste_103int_140sp_103sta,gems=10spi_12sp_23sp_7sp,enchant=12crit_12hit
wrists=the_ladys_brittle_bracers,heroic=1,stats=162armor_73crit_52hit_78int_110sp_78sta,gems=10crit_12sp_5sp,enchant=30sp
hands=gunship_captains_mittens,heroic=1,stats=231armor_90haste_74hit_103int_140sp_103sta,gems=10spi_12sp_23sp_7sp,enchant=28sp
finger1=ring_of_rapid_ascent,heroic=1,stats=68crit_60haste_78int_110sp_78sta,gems=10spi_12sp_5sp
finger2=ashen_band_of_endless_destruction,stats=64haste_51hit_73int_101sp_73sta,gems=10crit_12sp_5sp,equip=onspellcasthit_285sp_10%_10dur_60cd
trinket1=dislodged_foreign_object,heroic=1,stats=170haste,equip=onspellcast_121sp_10stack_10%_20dur_45cd_2tick
trinket2=phylactery_of_the_nameless_lich,heroic=1,stats=172crit,equip=onspelltickdamage_1206sp_30%_20dur_100cd
back=frostbinders_shredded_cape,heroic=1,stats=185armor_68crit_60haste_78int_110sp_78sta,gems=10crit_12sp_5sp,enchant=23haste
main_hand=bloodsurge_kelthuzads_blade_of_agony,heroic=1,stats=55crit_71haste_81int_893sp_81sta,gems=23sp_5sp,enchant=black_magic,weapon=sword_1.80speed_160min_447max
off_hand=shadow_silk_spindle,heroic=1,stats=68crit_68haste_78int_119sp_78sta
ranged=corpseimpaling_spike,heroic=1,stats=38crit_30haste_44int_58sp_44sta,gems=10crit_12sp_5sp
# Gear Summary
# gear_strength=10
# gear_agility=10
# gear_stamina=1427
# gear_intellect=1427
# gear_spirit=100
# gear_spell_power=3304
# gear_hit_rating=355
# gear_crit_rating=1268
# gear_haste_rating=1186
# gear_armor=2309
# meta_gem=chaotic_skyflare
# tier10_2pc_caster=1
# tier10_4pc_caster=1
# main_hand=bloodsurge_kelthuzads_blade_of_agony,heroic=1,weapon=sword_1.80speed_160min_447max,enchant=black_magic
armor_type=molten

Patchwerk - 13332 DPS
Helter Skelter - 10732 DPS

Code:

#!./simc 

mage=GenericArcane
origin=
level=80
race=human
use_pre_potion=-1
talents=http://www.wowarmory.com/talent-calc.xml?cid=8&tal=23002523010033015032310250532103000000000000000000000000000230230010000000000000000000
glyphs=molten_armor/arcane_blast/arcane_missiles
actions=flask,type=frost_wyrm
actions+=/food,type=fish_feast
actions+=/arcane_brilliance
actions+=/focus_magic
actions+=/snapshot_stats
actions+=/counterspell
actions+=/arcane_power
actions+=/icy_veins
actions+=/presence_of_mind,arcane_blast
actions+=/mana_gem
actions+=/choose_rotation
actions+=/arcane_missiles,if=buff.missile_barrage.up
actions+=/mirror_image
actions+=/arcane_blast,if=dpm&buff.arcane_blast.stack<3
actions+=/arcane_blast,if=dps
actions+=/mana_potion
actions+=/evocation
actions+=/arcane_missiles
actions+=/arcane_barrage,moving=1
actions+=/fire_blast,moving=1
head=sanctified_bloodmage_hood,heroic=1,stats=300armor_122crit_98haste_139int_186sp_139sta,gems=chaotic_skyflare_10spi_12sp_9sp,enchant=30sp_20crit
neck=blood_queens_crimson_choker,heroic=1,stats=65crit_60haste_78int_110sp_78sta,gems=23sp
shoulders=sanctified_bloodmage_shoulderpads,heroic=1,stats=277armor_90crit_82haste_103int_150sp_103sta,gems=10haste_12sp_5sp,enchant=24sp_15crit
chest=sanctified_bloodmage_robe,heroic=1,stats=369armor_106crit_122haste_139int_195sp_139sta,gems=23sp_10spi_12sp_7sp,enchant=10str_10agi_10sta_10int_10spi
waist=crushing_coldwraith_belt,heroic=1,stats=208armor_74crit_90haste_103int_140sp_103sta,gems=10spi_12sp_23sp_23sp_7sp
legs=plaguebringers_stained_pants,heroic=1,stats=323armor_116haste_104hit_139int_185sp_139sta,gems=23sp_10spi_12sp_10haste_12sp_9sp,enchant=50sp_20spi
feet=plague_scientists_boots,heroic=1,stats=254armor_74crit_90haste_103int_140sp_103sta,gems=10spi_12sp_23sp_7sp,enchant=15sta
wrists=death_surgeons_sleeves,heroic=1,stats=162armor_60crit_78int_68spi_110sp_78sta,gems=23sp,enchant=30sp
hands=sanctified_bloodmage_gloves,heroic=1,stats=231armor_90crit_82hit_103int_150sp_103sta,gems=23sp,enchant=28sp
finger1=ashen_band_of_endless_destruction,stats=64haste_51hit_73int_101sp_73sta,gems=10haste_12sp_5sp,equip=onspellcasthit_285sp_10%_10dur_60cd
finger2=ring_of_rapid_ascent,heroic=1,stats=68crit_60haste_78int_110sp_78sta,gems=23sp
trinket1=dislodged_foreign_object,heroic=1,stats=170haste,equip=onspellcast_121sp_10stack_10%_20dur_45cd_2tick
trinket2=reign_of_the_unliving,heroic=1,stats=168sp,equip=onspelldirectcrit_2117fire_3stack_2.0cd
back=frostbinders_shredded_cape,heroic=1,stats=185armor_68crit_60haste_78int_110sp_78sta,gems=10haste_12sp_5sp,enchant=23haste
main_hand=bloodsurge_kelthuzads_blade_of_agony,heroic=1,stats=55crit_71haste_81int_893sp_81sta,gems=23sp_5sp,enchant=black_magic,weapon=sword_1.80speed_160min_447max
off_hand=shadow_silk_spindle,heroic=1,stats=68crit_68haste_78int_119sp_78sta
ranged=corpseimpaling_spike,heroic=1,stats=38crit_30haste_44int_58sp_44sta,gems=10haste_12sp_5sp
# Gear Summary
# gear_strength=10
# gear_agility=10
# gear_stamina=1442
# gear_intellect=1427
# gear_spirit=148
# gear_spell_power=3496
# gear_hit_rating=237
# gear_crit_rating=1034
# gear_haste_rating=1254
# gear_armor=2309
# meta_gem=chaotic_skyflare
# tier10_2pc_caster=1
# tier10_4pc_caster=1
# main_hand=bloodsurge_kelthuzads_blade_of_agony,heroic=1,weapon=sword_1.80speed_160min_447max,enchant=black_magic
armor_type=molten

Patchwerk - 13550
Helter Skelter - 10206

1000 iterations

Gear sets could probably still use a little tweaking.

**Nirual** · 2010-04-22, 01:17 PM

Originally Posted by takolin

This tool will be a more useful than any simulation craft as it checks the logs of the top 200 for the past 2 weeks and makes a pretty list of the top specs. And yes it are top people playing but that still has a higher realism value than a pure theory crafted model.

Top people? It has a frost mage pulling 2100 in the log. Admittedly most of the other spec numbers seem sound, but there just aren't enough records for frost to be useful.

**Siddarta** · 2010-04-22, 03:54 PM

Originally Posted by DirewolfX

Hawkwah: I'm not going to add it to the thread, because I don't think it's a reasonable spec, but here are your numbers:

DPS: 11416

Code:

#!./simc 

mage=generic
origin=
level=80
race=human
use_pre_potion=-1
talents=http://www.wowarmory.com/talent-calc.xml?cid=8&tal=23000503310003000000000000000023050310113033300531203003510000000000000000000000000000
glyphs=improved_scorch/molten_armor/living_bomb
actions=flask,type=frost_wyrm
actions+=/food,type=fish_feast
actions+=/arcane_brilliance
actions+=/focus_magic
actions+=/snapshot_stats
actions+=/counterspell
actions+=/scorch,debuff=1
actions+=/combustion
actions+=/mana_gem
actions+=/speed_potion
actions+=/living_bomb
actions+=/pyroblast,hot_streak=1
actions+=/mirror_image
actions+=/fire_ball,if=buff.bloodlust.up
actions+=/scorch
actions+=/evocation
actions+=/fire_blast,moving=1
actions+=/ice_lance,moving=1
head=sanctified_bloodmage_hood,heroic=1,stats=300armor_122crit_98haste_139int_186sp_139sta,gems=chaotic_skyflare_10spi_12sp_9sp,enchant=30sp_20crit
neck=amulet_of_the_silent_eulogy,heroic=1,stats=68haste_60hit_78int_110sp_78sta,gems=10hit_12sp_5sp
shoulders=sanctified_bloodmage_shoulderpads,heroic=1,stats=277armor_90crit_82haste_103int_150sp_103sta,gems=10haste_12sp_5sp,enchant=24sp_15crit
chest=sanctified_bloodmage_robe,heroic=1,stats=369armor_106crit_122haste_139int_195sp_139sta,gems=23sp_10spi_12sp_7sp,enchant=10str_10agi_10sta_10int_10spi
waist=crushing_coldwraith_belt,heroic=1,stats=208armor_74crit_90haste_103int_140sp_103sta,gems=10spi_12sp_23sp_23sp_7sp
legs=sanctified_bloodmage_leggings,heroic=1,stats=323armor_122crit_106hit_139int_195sp_139sta,gems=10spi_12sp_10hit_12sp_7sp,enchant=50sp_20spi
feet=plague_scientists_boots,heroic=1,stats=254armor_74crit_90haste_103int_140sp_103sta,gems=10spi_12sp_23sp_7sp,enchant=15sta
wrists=the_ladys_brittle_bracers,heroic=1,stats=162armor_73crit_52hit_78int_110sp_78sta,gems=10haste_12sp_5sp,enchant=30sp
hands=sanctified_bloodmage_gloves,heroic=1,stats=231armor_90crit_82hit_103int_150sp_103sta,gems=10spi_12sp_5sp,enchant=28sp
finger1=ashen_band_of_endless_destruction,stats=64haste_51hit_73int_101sp_73sta,gems=10haste_12sp_5sp,enchant=23sp,equip=onspellcasthit_285sp_10%_10dur_60cd
finger2=ring_of_rapid_ascent,heroic=1,stats=68crit_60haste_78int_110sp_78sta,gems=10spi_12sp_5sp,enchant=23sp
trinket1=dislodged_foreign_object,heroic=1,stats=170haste,equip=onspellcast_121sp_10stack_10%_20dur_45cd_2tick
trinket2=phylactery_of_the_nameless_lich,heroic=1,stats=172crit,equip=onspelltickdamage_1206sp_30%_20dur_100cd
back=frostbinders_shredded_cape,heroic=1,stats=185armor_68crit_60haste_78int_110sp_78sta,gems=10haste_12sp_5sp
main_hand=bloodsurge_kelthuzads_blade_of_agony,heroic=1,stats=55crit_71haste_81int_893sp_81sta,gems=23sp,enchant=black_magic,weapon=sword_1.80speed_160min_447max
off_hand=shadow_silk_spindle,heroic=1,stats=68crit_68haste_78int_119sp_78sta
ranged=corpseimpaling_spike,heroic=1,stats=38crit_30haste_44int_58sp_44sta,gems=10haste_12sp_5sp
# Gear Summary
# gear_strength=10
# gear_agility=10
# gear_stamina=1442
# gear_intellect=1427
# gear_spirit=100
# gear_spell_power=3335
# gear_hit_rating=371
# gear_crit_rating=1276
# gear_haste_rating=1123
# gear_armor=2309
# meta_gem=chaotic_skyflare
# tier10_2pc_caster=1
# tier10_4pc_caster=1
# main_hand=bloodsurge_kelthuzads_blade_of_agony,heroic=1,weapon=sword_1.80speed_160min_447max,enchant=black_magic
armor_type=molten

Why add frost then :P.

But really, scorch is not viable, you can play it if you enjoy, but it will never be optimal (unless Blizzard changes focuses, but this is about WOTLK).

**Siddarta** · 2010-04-22, 03:56 PM

Originally Posted by takolin

I don't want to be a complete ass and yes this might sound a bit like a flame, but this is a complete useless thing to do.
No fight in ICC25 is a pure tank and spank with the possible exception of normal mode festergut where you Ice block the pungent blight. All the other fights have some form of movement and/or target switching that will influence the results.

Thus you should compare the strong and weak points of each spec and then see how they interact with the current fight mechanics to see what will perform better on a specific boss.

My opinion about that, is the following.

Fire's plus points:

Less mana dependant than fire.
Will do more damage on bosses who're below 35% due to molten fury.
Will do damage during movement with ticking DoTs, refreshing of LB, possible HS pyro's and F-blast that can proc a HS
Superior range assuming you got an affliction/demo lock.

Fire's negative points:

No controllable burst
Doesn't perform too well on adds that die fast.

Arcane's plus points

Controllable burst due to quite a few CDs and the AB mechanics
Can switch to adds without many issues

Arcane's negative points:

Doesn't do damage during movement. Abarr is there but at the cost of AB stacks.

Feel free to add anything if I forgot something, but those should be biggest influencing factors.

Knowing these things, fire has a considerable advantage over arcane on all fights with the obvious exception of VDW and possibly Saurfang.

This tool will be a more useful than any simulation craft as it checks the logs of the top 200 for the past 2 weeks and makes a pretty list of the top specs. And yes it are top people playing but that still has a higher realism value than a pure theory crafted model.

You do seem like an ass, and you are flaming. Direwolf created the thread to talk about optimal set ups, the DPS number is something simcraft simply provided. please stop trolling, we all know we have to move.

**takolin** · 2010-04-22, 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by Siddarta

You do seem like an ass, and you are flaming. Direwolf created the thread to talk about optimal set ups, the DPS number is something simcraft simply provided. please stop trolling, we all know we have to move.

I was merely saying that you can't compare specs based on numbers that theorycrafting provide.
I won't discuss the fact they're useful, but if you want to find out whether arcane or fire is better you can't rely on data alone.

And yes we all know we need to move but both specs react differently to movement and target switching and it would be stupid to simply say: "A does more damage provided you don't move" because that doesn't happen and thus the results are skewed.

I know Direwolf said, he was looking for a way to see how he can factor in movement with Simcraft, but I thought it was a valid part of the discussion to see how the ICC mechanics influence the results.

**Swizzle** · 2010-04-22, 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by takolin

I was merely saying that you can't compare specs based on numbers that theorycrafting provide.
I won't discuss the fact they're useful, but if you want to find out whether arcane or fire is better you can't rely on data alone.

And yes we all know we need to move but both specs react differently to movement and target switching and it would be stupid to simply say: "A does more damage provided you don't move" because that doesn't happen and thus the results are skewed.

I know Direwolf said, he was looking for a way to see how he can factor in movement with Simcraft, but I thought it was a valid part of the discussion to see how the ICC mechanics influence the results.

your basic argument is: why do research or theorycraft at all?

no spec in the game gains DPS from moving, so it's safe to say that all specs will have their highest DPS on a stand-still fight. from these numbers, you can fairly deduce what a spec could do if asked to move. so, a stand-still fight is the fairest gauge of how specs compare to one another, whereas what you want is something you attain from actually doing the encounters.

fire loses the least amount of DPS from movement.
arcane loses average amounts.
frost loses the most.

look at the stand still numbers and feel free to subtract 2%, 5%, and 10% from fire, arcane, and frost respectively and in that order.

**DirewolfX** · 2010-04-22, 07:13 PM

Takolin: You raise excellent points, but if the theoretical maximum DPS for Spec A is 10,000 and Spec B is 5,000, then Spec B is never going to compete with Spec A. Since Arcane and Fire are so close with these theoretical calculations, we know that factors such as fight dynamics and player skill will have a larger impact than the theoretical maximums. However, it is important to investigate the theory crafting first. I'll be adding Helter Skelter numbers to examine movement effects. (I saw that option after I did the initial comparisons).

Nighty: I'll try to get a FFB spec up.

Rugz: The ones I posted are Tailor/Enchanters. And the gear sets are not best in slot gear sets, just very good gear sets.

**Skarrd** · 2010-04-22, 09:24 PM

What on earth is a Helter Skelter?

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