Cataclysm Raid Progression Refinements

[Castia]

To all those strict 10 man raidguild shitheads.

WHAT THE FUCK IS YOUR PROBLEM?

Nothing is chaning for your fucktards. U had 10 man gear and went into 10 man instances only, meaning the fuckin bosses are tuned exactly for U SHITHEADS. There was NOTHING holding u back in your shitprogression.

The only reason why u drooling bads are happy is that u can have the same gear as the good players.

Haha loving that you are so upset

while your running 25 man's with a bunch of nubs that are getting boosted by the better half of the raid ill play with rl friends and have a laugh.....all at the same time getting the same pixels as you

[Downwithopp]

Casuals win.

Football helmets for everyone on the house!

[MightyChris]

im not liking
10-Man and 25-Man raids will share the same lockout.

[bigsampson]

i love the change do to the fact that i am an adult and have a job. i dont want to raid every night.

[Ricen]

So you will quit WoW because... uhm... why exactly? There will still be 25 man raids, just like now, with hardmodes, just like now. The only change is, you won't feel forced to do the same raid 2 to 4 times a week (10, 25 and in some raids both on heroic too). All those so called 'hardcore' raiders complained about being bored of running the same raid multiple times a week and now they will fix that, and you think that will kill WoW? Anyway, if WoW gets killed by this, it's because of you. The people who think this is a good idea will continue playing, people like you will quit and cause 'the death' of WoW.

I love this idea. Finally there will be more 10 man guild who don't feel forced to go 25 when their numbers permit, just for better loot. No more feeling forced to raid 4-5 days a week because you need to farm 10 man to progress in 25 man. And if you like 25 man, there is nothing holding you back. Win win situation. Except ofcourse for lootwhores, who don't raid for fun but for shiny purples.

25 mans originally is wear gear and progression is, if you wanna have a 10 man guild GO for it but dont bug people who want to be successful in the game and go what is was ment for PVE wise. You love the idea because you wanna feel equal to people who work for there gear go home scrub

[Evoic]

I see a bunch of 25 man groups determining that there are 10 players that are head and shoulders above the rest, so they want to down the encounter (progression race) as fast as possible, and next week 15 of you are sitting or forming your own 10 mans.

And then comes drama.

And then \g disband.

Please refer back to this post in 365 days. ;D

[Mantús]

i like these changes. i quit the game since january 2010 and these changes will make me come back to the game making my own 10 man guild and it will be worthy since we will have the same loot as 25 man

[Shamslam]

But yeah, it's the death of WoW, death of 25mans and death of everything else, just like every other change Blizzard ever does.

This. <3

Also:
Seriously, is reading that hard? It states they will be tuning 10 and 25 mans to be the same difficulty, the only difference is you have to find 15 more people. What if they overtune 10 mans? Then 25 man will become the place to be for the loot whores. The gap now is like 3k DPS reqs between 10/25, when it should be like 1k at most. I honestly hope they overtune 10 mans, so we can sit in Dal and /rofl at all the scrubs in 25 mans cheevs.

Game changes every patch, never know what's gonna become the hardest part about it.

[Krathdar The Mighty]

say what you will. 10 man raiders are the majority, more people prefer them, 25 man raids are kind of annoying, coming from someone who does them weekly. I can devote less time to this game now and i for one and so happy about it.

Notice how most of the people for it are being nice, but the 25 man raiders are having a conniption fit and taking rage out on 10 man raiders saying they aren't good players...lol

Best change in WoW raiding in a long time, good riddance to elitist jerks

[Downwithopp]

i love the change do to the fact that i am an adult and have a job. i dont want to raid every night.

I'm glad you are an adult. If you play your character as well as you spell, you dont deserve to raid in the first place.

[dvdconway]

i love the change do to the fact that i am an adult and have a job. i dont want to raid every night.

Thats great! Really! But why should others be forced not to raid as much?

[Darkrobinson]

Cataclysm
Death of the 25man guilds

That is all.

[kenneth044]

These is some really great changes imo. It will make 10 and 25 man equally, which is fine. Less gear/badge farming, which is fine as well.

And I always prefered 10 mans, as you have to depend on less people to screw up / replace duo to slack... Cataclysm, we welcome you!

[Miltiadhs]

i love the changes.!this is gonna be a hard hit for casuals(and it sure it was about fricking time if you ask me!)

as for :" * For the first few raid tiers, our plan is to provide multiple smaller raids. Instead of one raid with eleven bosses, you might have a five-boss raid as well as a six-boss raid. ".i am happy about it.at least it is not one boss Malygos style or no challenge Satharion(without the drakes ofc).At least make the raids BIG!

[Karnige]

I'm glad you are an adult. If you play your character as well as you spell, you dont deserve to raid in the first place.

fail

[Adelycia]

I am currently in a decent 25 man raid (10/12 HM's in ICC 25) . I love 25 man content because it's where the challenge is at this point in time. However, if done right, 10 mans will now be just as challenging as the 25 mans. A lot of people acknowledge that 25 mans are where to be at this time because 10 mans are a joke, especially if you are geared for 25 mans. Mind you, I have been playing since vanilla. I loved vanilla just as much as the next person. But I loved the changes to raiding in TBC, and now wrath was an experimental process. Maybe they will get the 10 mans done right (the way they should have been done since day 1).

I personally LOVE these changes. I do like 10's for one reason. You can have a tight knit group of people / friends raiding together. It's an awesome experience. Come cata, those people will be able to be recognized (again if the content is done right) as true progression guilds.

GG blizz. I really like where you are going with it. Keep up the good work. As for the rest of you who think the game is going to shit, go QQ elsewhere. The people complaining about it are the same people that complain about every small or big change in this game. The game really is heading in a very good direction contrary to what you people might believe.

[kenneth044]

I'm glad you are an adult. If you play your character as well as you spell, you dont deserve to raid in the first place.

Troll harder plx!

[Downwithopp]

fail

Sarcasm is lost on you, kill urslfz

[Ricen]

[quote=Krathdar The Mighty ]
say what you will. 10 man raiders are the majority

No lol no no you are wrong sir

[blupp]

i love the change do to the fact that i am an adult and have a job. i dont want to raid every night.

if you were an adult and had a job you'd know this is a game and nobody forced you to play it and nobody forced you to go both 10 and 25man.

also this RL point is just being brought up from people that wake up, go to work, get home, play wow til late night then go to sleep, repeat. NICE REAL LIFE BUDDY.