10k damage shadowbolt in Vanilla

[Underskilled]

Hey there. My friend and I were discussing Vanilla WoW, when he mentioned about warlocks critting people for 10k damage with a shadowbolt. Now I found this hard to believe, since even now at 80 a 10k hit in pvp is pretty hefty, back in Vanilla you would have one shot ANYONE. However he keeps telling me it's true. I tried looking for any videos are general knowledge about, but couldn't find anything.


So I ask you, was it possible to crit 10k with a shadowbolt back in Vanilla? If it was, how so?

[Deleted]

This is indeed true, I can't find the wellknown video.. But you have my word that it is true.

[Samin]

Paladins were oneshotting world bosses. Bugs/Exploits happened during vanilla. I think it was only possible under certain circumstances and with a bit exploiting. Not common though. (Even though warlocks were OP once upon a time, there were even raid strats to kill one)

[Pheno]

I do remember ruin locks hitting pretty damn hard on occasion in bg's but I don't recall 10k shadowbolts. Maybe with a dual trinket use (back when u could do that) + berserker + flask + blah blah maybe they could get that high. But on a sustainable level, I don't think they got nearly that high.

[Cæli]

I think your friend is talking about those mobs with negative shadow resist allowing ultra high crit (10k crit was a pretty high crit in vanilla)
warlocks could do 10k+ crits in BC though

[lolterribads]

Paladins were oneshotting world bosses.

I only heard of this being done on Lord Kazzak and it was hotfixed very shortly afterwards. Reckoning was crazy back then.

[Deleted]

the 10k shadowbolts happend in PvP aswell

[Kralljin]

Zandalarian Hero Charm
Other Spelldmg Increasing Trinket
Power infusion (Increases your dmg by 20%)
Demonic Sacrifice (15% More shadowdmg)
Ruin (100% Crit dmg bonus)

[Pheno]

I'm sure some of you remember how outraged people were about mages critting with pyroblast for over 10k at level 70, soon after release of BC. That was one of the main reasons Blizz made it so you couldn't proc both trinkets at once anymore. Now that was on a 3 minute or so cooldown, at level 70, with berserker and all that. I seriously doubt this happened at level 60 in a pvp environment, sustainably. I know destro locks in full Warlord gear were critting for like 3k+ with shadowbolts. Naxx gear had SLIGHTLY more SP on it, but not enough to bring shadow bolts up another 6+k or so.

[Macavity]

The trash in BWL before or after(can't remember) Chromaggus took extra shadow damage, so 10k shadowbolts were pretty common on those.

[Tuvok]

I remember seeing this video too. I believe it was the usual thing though, a soulfire perhaps, but trinkets, bg/world buffs, potions/flasks/elixirs (they all stacked back then), there are a few things, also including things like recklessness (the warrior takes 25% more damage).

Stupid high numbers are easy to pull with cooperation and planning from others, just like the same people that focus all their buffs on one person in a raid so they can get a #1 wlog parse - and while even though it was under completely ridiculous buffing and raid cooperation, would still claim it as a deserving #1 spot.

[Celidoq]

It is possible, Shaman's and Warlock's fully buffed with everything you could imagine
(ZG trinket+self buffs+other classes buffs+berserker(?)+potions/flasks+++)

I have a link that a Shaman crits 25k during Vanilla, unfortunatly I am not allowed to link anything until I post a few times, iLol

[Shazzia]

this is indeed true with alot of buffs, and the only reason this doesn't know in pvp right now is this shit called
Resilience
that ruined PvP for me =(
R.I.P. One-shotting Warlocks

[Celidoq]

25k shaman crit, just fix the link the space between www and .
www .youtube.com/watch?v=Ghu7cBG_cQA&p=0A613D8334ECBB14&playnext=1&index=17

[Runc]

The vanilla "Curse of Shadow" was 'bugged' so that it could result in negative spell resistance. The scaling of negative resistance was pretty insane, so under the right circumstances, 10k crits were possible.

Then they 'fixed' negative resistance.

[Maxatoria]

at one point you could debuff spell resists into negative numbers meaning they took more damage

and dont forget the bwl trash where you could rack up large numbers if you were able to do the right kind of spell damage or you did 75% less damage

[foenyx]

So I ask you, was it possible to crit 10k with a shadowbolt back in Vanilla? If it was, how so?

yes but only in some special cases

for example - mobs with shadow vulnerability in BWL - on them crits were insane especially if they were affected by shadow vulnerability applied by improved shadow bolt talent

on mobs with no shadow vulnerability - i believe it was possible too
with the debuff from improved shadow bolt + Curse of Shadow + activated 2 trinkets
yea u were able to activate both trinkets at same time back then

but in short - yea there were 10k crits though in some special situation only

[Kirkh]

I have heard it too, maybe it wasnt Shadowbolt but a Soulfire, but its true..
i think it was entirely possible in some BWL mobs, or a specific boss for a good geared warlock.
For the story, my warlock (that i was just leveling him) did a 3K Soulfire in lord Kazzak in blues/epics a little before TBC launch @ lvl 60

[Nathanos]

This is indeed true, I don't recall the videos name, but I have seen a Warlock crit 10.000 Damage on a Shadowbolt in PvP at Vanilla. It's even referenced in the "That's the World of Warcraft that you Play" song.

[lolterribads]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKMvMgfNSbE

This is a video of a 13k SB in BWL, I am assuming that the mob was weak against shadow on that pack. I havent heard of SB crits getting that high pre-bc otherwise. Except maybe on the remaining adds once you downed Razuvious in naxx, I forget if the debuff they got included spell damage or not.