Oh and yes this patch is balanced around 85, but blizz just added a 10% specialization nerf to all mages, and 15% for fire to help balance them at 80. Now at 85 they are weak, but I guess they'll revert those changes when cata ships. But basically now mages are more balanced for 80 because of the qq. the big difference is that we have such a gear inflation that we can play arcane in a way it wasn't intended, by just spamming AB 98% of the fight.