ICC 25m H LK - Light of Dawn @ 85

[Krugbuu]

How possible is it now with the healers mana regen and what not? Assuming everyone was in full 346+ gear with some 359s.

[Weerra]

It is not a challenge of stats or gear or mana now.
It is still a challenge of skill. Only thing that became easier is the infest - with enough HP it will disappear. Defile will still murder you. Room will still murder you.

[Deleted]

Just as possible as it was at 80, infest is probably ruled out as your max health - infest tick shouldn't get you below 90% (atleast with the 30% buff) the tanks have much higher health so healing them shouldn't be as hard either. and slowing/stunning is the same as always on valkyrs.

[Heltoray]

Cut that crap please... It isn't hard anymore, not even in the slightest!
The only thing that can kill you is defile which is so hard to evade when there is no need to maximize Valk flight paths...

[Melonberry]

We hoped leap of faith could save people in valks, and we still one shot it after losing the first 6 people. (We thought the first 3 were flukes lol)

[Joels]

Yeah, simple if people know the basic mechanics of the fight.. I wouldn't expect to 1 shot it in a complete pug though, it still has some mechanics that kill you and your whole raid quickly. Especially Infest if you don't heal it up immediately.

[nnelson54]

Defile is still Defile and people are still bad at not standing in the fire.

Other than that there's nothing to the fight anymore.

[xxf2dxx]

It is not a challenge of stats or gear or mana now.
It is still a challenge of skill. Only thing that became easier is the infest - with enough HP it will disappear. Defile will still murder you. Room will still murder you.

Defile wont matter if you burn through his health pool before he casts it.

[xile]

It is not a challenge of stats or gear or mana now.
It is still a challenge of skill. Only thing that became easier is the infest - with enough HP it will disappear. Defile will still murder you. Room will still murder you.

The fight is dam near half as long, and the valks die twice as fast, not to mention you now have life grip so that even if people do fail you can pull them back... lol. That makes the fight significantly easier. The ONLY thing that is still "hard" is defile which is less harder beucase now you don't relaly have to stack up for valks cause your dps is doing more than the best dps in the world did at 80

[Timmeh7]

No idea why people are talking about phase 2... if anything, a completely new group to this is most likely to suffer mass casualties in phase 1 courtesy of shadow traps. Defile may still be a minor issue, but I doubt it, anyone who can't get out of a big black circle in a timely fashion probably isn't doing so well in Cataclysm either. Frostmourne room'll be completely marginalised by the health increase.

Shouldn't be hard, though... numbers are significantly higher, you'll have far fewer instances of each mechanic, reducing the chances that someone'll fail at it.

[Zeta333]

Defile wont matter if you burn through his health pool before he casts it.

Except that he will cast it, and you cant burn through his health pool before he does so.

[drukai]

Just as possible as it was at 80, infest is probably ruled out as your max health - infest tick shouldn't get you below 90% (atleast with the 30% buff) the tanks have much higher health so healing them shouldn't be as hard either. and slowing/stunning is the same as always on valkyrs.

As a tank, you can straight up ignore Soul Reap now. Its so fun.

[Herecius]

You can completely bypass the final phase if you have enough ranged. Every ranged class has a 40 yard range and can stand just outside the Remorseless Winter and nuke Lich King.

[Alianthos]

We went there for shit and giggles (try to 7-men the 25 heroic encounter xD) and you guys should know that Infest is HP based. It's still pretty hard to heal up, maybe harder with Cataclysm mana restrictions.

There rest is pretty easy but you still need to know how to handle the fight. More DPS just wont cut it for valkyr, lol. If they arent properly slowed, they WILL drop people. You shouldnt assume extra DPS at 85 will be enough to handle these girls.

Your average Joe pick up group will wipe endlessly on this. A guild group will defeat this without any trouble. Mark my word.

[ripponesan]

just reminding that not every class is still doing the same amount of damage than it did with 85 in ICC gear.

[Marcadius]

Got server 1st this week with the new guild, (Yes Terenas-US not the most competitive out there) since we were stuck at only 11/12 during Wtlk, we wiped like 6-7times cuz there were 1st timers.

phase1 cake, stack parallel group of melee and range for traps

Phase 2- leave whoever gets picked up by valks get deopped , pop hero NUKE!!

phase 3- Smourne room, run, out, spirit, rinse reapet

Good times

[YankeePhan1234]

I was wondering how hard this would be, has anyone ACTUALLY done it though? Because with Leap of Faith doesn't it make valks a non issue and infest can be eaten with everyone's massive health pools?

[Krugbuu]

I was wondering how hard this would be, has anyone ACTUALLY done it though? Because with Leap of Faith doesn't it make valks a non issue and infest can be eaten with everyone's massive health pools?

This is what i am mainly concerned about.

[Deleted]

Every ranged class has a 40 yard range and can stand just outside the Remorseless Winter and nuke Lich King.

Frost mages have 35 yard range

[Eleraith]

We tried it on 25 man just after a lot of us dinged 85, in fresh quest blues and greens, and it was hella hard. Infest was just too much for the healers to heal up, honestly. We haven't tried it now we're all in epics and heroic superior gear, maybe I should suggest it if you guys reckon it's a pushover now.