Which trinket is better for tanking

[phatkiid]

Just wondering which trinket is better for tanking
Unheede Warning - http://www.wowhead.com/item=59520
or
Leaden despair - http://www.wowhead.com/item=56347

im fairly new to tanking, and alos of forums i saw said hat agi was better then stam, but my guild feral tank says that stam is a better stat.


Atm my other trinket is
Lifebound Alchemist Stone - http://us.battle.net/wow/en/item/58483

i Have 146k health unbuffed
The main reason i ask is that a numbe of he sites i went to placed agility over stamina for tanks, as it gives dodge and gives crit which procs our mastery

[fox1012]

I'm not 100% sure, as my class is not druid, but Agility isn't itemized as good as other tanking stats.

Also a factor is, do you have a big enough health pool? This isn't WotLK anymore, and healers need all the help they can get, and if you can dodge a little bit more, it helps. Also, threat seems like it would be just wonderful with this thing.

[Deleted]

You want to have balance between avoidance and healthpool

Agi is your best avoidance stat, Stam is obvious.

Depends what you feel you need more atm. I recommend you have 1 stam trinket and 1 avoidance if you dont feel the stat balance.

[darcrular]

Unheeded warning is not a good tanking trinket as a bear you'd probably want Tia's Grace and Leaden Dispair for preraid gear and. Vial of Stolen memories and Symbiotic Worm when you start raiding.

[Mammoth]

Speaking as a Warrior, always keep a collection of different trinkets on you. Since you say that you're new to tanking I would suggest agi for the avoidance as the superior trinket, since HCs consist of multiple smaller hits rather than less frequent big hits a raid boss brings.

If you're entering raiding however, I'm not sure, since bears get a stam multiplier from bear form. (I assume its still there).

[Elunedra]

it is tru that agility & dodge are best tanking stats atm for bears. yet ofc you do need stamina
depending on what content you raid you probely want aroung 165K hp and dump the rest in avoidence ;P

as for the trinkets. Unheeded warning does have a nice amount of agility, yes but its not a verry goood one as the proc is totaly useless. iwould go for the blue trinket and stick a proper armor / dodge trinket in the other slot like http://www.wowhead.com/item=58182

for example http://www.wowhead.com/item=59332 is an awsoem trinket for ferla druid evne when it has stamina

[phatkiid]

Well atm my other trinket is
Lifebound Alchemist Stone - http://us.battle.net/wow/en/item/58483

i Have 146k health unbuffed
The main reason i ask is that a number of he sites i went to placed agility over stamina for Feral tanks, as it gives dodge and gives crit which procs our mastery

[Elunedra]

If you're entering raiding however, I'm not sure, since bears get a stam multiplier from bear form. (I assume its still there).

yes bears do get a stamina modifier but its the same that other tanks get tru talents and specailisations

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Well atm my other trinket is
Lifebound Alchemist Stone - http://us.battle.net/wow/en/item/58483

i Have 146k health unbuffed
The main reason i ask is that a numbe of he sites i went to placed agility over stamina for tanks, as it gives dodge and gives crit which procs our mastery

in that case if you have 146K and are doing herorics? then the agility trinket will be fine you dont need more then 140k for heroric :P

[sapiorion]

Just wondering which trinket is better for tanking
Unheede Warning - http://www.wowhead.com/item=59520
or
Leaden despair - http://www.wowhead.com/item=56347

im fairly new to tanking, and alos of forums i saw said hat agi was better then stam, but my guild feral tank says that stam is a better stat.

The agil is awesome but It's really best coupled with mastery like http://www.wowhead.com/item=62468 . This trinck gives a nice defensive CD to hit and a short CD.

[Archimand]

http://www.wowhead.com/item=56394/tias-grace#comments is probebly one of the best trinkets u can get for bear along with http://www.wowhead.com/item=62466 depend on encounter though

[phatkiid]

in that case if you have 146K and are doing herorics? then the agility trinket will be fine you dont need more then 140k for heroric :P

BUt what about to start raiding

[HavokHeart]

Agi trinket is better for everyday tanking.. mainly magic fights u can throw on some extra stam if needed(i wouldn't). Our mastery becomes more and more valuable with each point of crit. Effective health goes up with agi. If you absorb the damage it only makes you easier to heal.

In short.. go agi and realize stam is not king anymore.

[sapiorion]

BUt what about to start raiding

Depends on your healers really.

You aint gonna get one shotted so it really if your close to dying alot you need to think about abit more stam.

[HavokHeart]

Depends on your healers really.

You aint gonna get one shotted so it really if your close to dying alot you need to think about abit more stam.

If you absorb or avoid the damage isn't it easier on healers than having more health?

I have 130k unbuffed for heroics and have been told I take less damage then other bears people have come across in randoms. In fact I imagine the reason so many ppl dread getting bear tanks in randoms is stam stackers.

Plus its nice doing 16k dps with veng..(agi = crit+ AP) lol

Again keep the leaden despair if u don't have a better stam trink.. it may be better for magic heavy fights despite the proc being garbage.

[phatkiid]

Ahh ok kwl thx alot guys, i think i will stay with unheeded warning as i dnt have leaden yet, and cbf to farm for it

[sapiorion]

If you absorb or avoid the damage isn't it easier on healers than having more health?

I have 130k unbuffed for heroics and have been told I take less damage then other bears people have come across in randoms. In fact I imagine the reason so many ppl dread getting bear tanks in randoms is stam stackers.

Plus its nice doing 16k dps with veng..(agi = crit+ AP) lol

Again keep the leaden despair if u don't have a better stam trink.. it may be better for magic heavy fights despite the proc being garbage.

Damn right I totally agree. What I was saying is if he's close to getting one shotted alot then maybe stam.

I know how it works I was answering his question...

[Daez]

Basically its like comparing apples and oranges. Look at the largest magical damage single attack that can be done by each boss. If you have the ability to survive that attack twice after mitigating factors then you really don't need more stamina and agility becomes better. If you don't, then you could probably benefit from more stamina. If the boss in question does more magical damage you will need more stamina in general. If they are more physical based then more agility will probably help. So, like a certain warrior said, know your fights and gear appropriately.

[mlc]

Just wondering which trinket is better for tanking
Unheede Warning - http://www.wowhead.com/item=59520
or
Leaden despair - http://www.wowhead.com/item=56347

im fairly new to tanking, and alos of forums i saw said hat agi was better then stam, but my guild feral tank says that stam is a better stat.


Atm my other trinket is
Lifebound Alchemist Stone - http://us.battle.net/wow/en/item/58483

i Have 146k health unbuffed
The main reason i ask is that a numbe of he sites i went to placed agility over stamina for tanks, as it gives dodge and gives crit which procs our mastery

For normal mode raiding, you have more than enough hp for healers to react (assuming they have reasonable reaction time), so I'd say to use Unheeded Warning if you are choosing between the two only. However, Tia's grace and fluid death are both better than unheeded warning if you can get your hands on them.

[Mammoth]

BUt what about to start raiding

160k raid buffed is plenty for every normal mode boss. Maybe Nef and Cho will be a bit tight, but by then your gear should have pushed your HP much higher. Oh, and make sure u pop a CD when Magmaw's nomming you.