The League of Legends thread

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God that some people don't know that initiating 5 people in a bush while I'm at 5% health and our AD isn't near, is a bad decision is beyond me. Win every teamfight .. loose the game because Amumu and WW fuck up 2 uber important initiations. Urgh.

[Duronos]

God that some people don't know that initiating 5 people in a bush while I'm at 5% health and our AD isn't near, is a bad decision is beyond me. Win every teamfight .. loose the game because Amumu and WW fuck up 2 uber important initiations. Urgh.

That is what defines a good team in solo queue... Teamfights. That alone can determine whether you win or not.

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Had SUCH an epic fight yesterday.

Me against a Cho top, I was Jax.

I was at low health, I mean at 1 hit low health, 1 auto attack is all that was needed.

JUST as we engage I level and I put the first point in my E, I instantly activated it, allowing me 3 hits on the cho who had pretty low health too and dodging his killing blow.
Felt SO boss.

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That is what defines a good team in solo queue... Teamfights. That alone can determine whether you win or not.

Winning the fights wasn't a problem. Amumu and WW getting a brainfart and basically throwing the game with 2 ridiculous engages did.

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Winning the fights wasn't a problem. Amumu and WW getting a brainfart and basically throwing the game with 2 ridiculous engages did.

That's what you get for having cocky partners...

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Madreds is a fantastic item on Shaco if your playing vs a team where there are 4 tanky people. Build him bruiser-ish by going Phage > Bloodrazor > Black Cleaver / PD > FM > what you see appropriate. And let the chaos ensue. Nobody can 1 v 1 you, not even Jax with full build. In teamfights you should be tanky enough to take down their AD or AP carry and still have 30%hp, enough to take care of their bruiser or second carry.

Unless they're all building Atmogs (lol), it's still an awful item.

That is what defines a good team in solo queue... Teamfights. That alone can determine whether you win or not.

I don't think I've ever been in a non-stomp game that wasn't decided by teamfights.

[Duronos]

Unless they're all building Atmogs (lol), it's still an awful item.

Have you seen what Shaco does with Madred's?

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Have you seen what Shaco does with Madred's?

He does an extra 40 damage per hit, gains 40% attack speed and deals 4% of the target's max health in magic damage.

Why, were you unsure?

[Duronos]

He does an extra 40 damage per hit, gains 40% attack speed and deals 4% of the target's max health in magic damage.

Why, were you unsure?

Well lets think with Shaco's passive it practically murders a carry on a burst, deceive gives you the crit and the passive from madreds and Shaco just is insane.

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Well lets think with Shaco's passive it practically murders a carry on a burst, deceive gives you the crit and the passive from madreds and Shaco just is insane.

I fail to see how Shaco's passive synergises in any way with Madred's any more than any +40 AD item does.

[Duronos]

I fail to see how Shaco's passive synergises in any way with Madred's any more than any +40 AD item does.

Because of the damage boost and then madred's passive still does extra plus it helps against bruisers as Silent said.

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Well lets think with Shaco's passive it practically murders a carry on a burst, deceive gives you the crit and the passive from madreds and Shaco just is insane.

Are you seriously suggesting that you get Bloodrazor... for burst?

[Axethor]

Buy a BT. It does more damage than Madred's with Shaco's passive.

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Because of the damage boost and then madred's passive still does extra plus it helps against bruisers as Silent said.

No, it's actually awful as horseshit against bruisers. At most, a carry is going to have about 80 MR. A bruiser could easily break 110 with their first MR item.

A Madred's hit against a fully built Cait is gonna do about 47 damage, 2.1% of her actual health. (Base + Banshee's)
A Madred's hit against a fully built Udyr is gonna do about 48 damage, 1.6% of his actual health. (Okay, fully built is a lie. This is base + runes/masteries, mercury treads and Wit's End, that's it)

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No, it's actually awful as horseshit against bruisers. At most, a carry is going to have about 80 MR. A bruiser could easily break 110 with their first MR item.

A Madred's hit against a fully built Cait is gonna do about 47 damage, 2.1% of her actual health. (Base + Banshee's)
A Madred's hit against a fully built Udyr is gonna do about 48 damage, 1.6% of his actual health. (Okay, fully built is a lie. This is base + runes/masteries, mercury treads and Wit's End, that's it)

But he would have extra health items on top of that, so it would do slightly more than 48.

You're right, but it's an exaggeration.

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But he would have extra health items on top of that, so it would do slightly more than 48.

You're right, but it's an exaggeration.

I was counting on 2200 health carry and 3000 health bruiser.

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I was counting on 2200 health carry and 3000 health bruiser.

2200 is a high estimate for AD and 3000 is a low estimate for a bruiser (or at least Udyr).

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I agree, I'd put ADC to 1.8-2k health. I'm not too sure on bruisers

4 Warmogs, boots, Atma's. Np. /s

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2200 is a high estimate for AD and 3000 is a low estimate for a bruiser (or at least Udyr).

Level 18 Caitlyn with a Banshee's is at 2125 health, it's not that high of an estimate.
Udyr on the other hand, I don't see why he would. Udyr hits 3050 or something with Trinity + Rand's, the only other item build I could think of that would increase his health substantially would be substituting Trinity for a Mallet and building Banshee's, an increase of 825 but that would also add a whole lot of magic resist.

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I agree, I'd put ADC to 1.8-2k health. I'm not too sure on bruisers

Ad carries' hp can vary from 1.7k to 2.1k.

Bruisers around 2,3k to 3.5k.