1. #2021
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    Quote Originally Posted by shane6 View Post
    Thanks, I really appreciate the help.

    Are there any specific tips for moving more efficiently to keep optimal uptime on sniper training? Or is it more of a "practice makes perfect" type of thing?
    Well personally i use weakauras for tracking that. Think i have an old version of the one linked in Azors pastebin: http://pastebin.com/BWicxTEN

  2. #2022
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    Spec: Marksmanship
    Item Level: 720
    Expectations:More damage with this items.
    Armory Link: eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/aggra-portugues/Kennishi/simple
    Warcraftlogs Link: warcraftlogs.com/reports/7McPJD9hyanpvm64#type=damage-done&fight=8&source=11

    I have a high ilvl comparing to my hunter mates.. but i do very few damage and i want to know if it is because of my equipment suck, or what am i doing wrong. :/
    Thanks for helping me.. please its not on this boss particularly but on every raid i do! you can see the other logs of my guild im always on them i think!
    Last edited by mmocb797433b40; 2016-01-21 at 01:17 AM.

  3. #2023
    Quote Originally Posted by Kennymtb View Post
    Spec: Marksmanship
    Item Level: 720
    Expectations:More damage with this items.
    Armory Link: eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/aggra-portugues/Kennishi/simple
    Warcraftlogs Link: warcraftlogs.com/reports/7McPJD9hyanpvm64#type=damage-done&fight=8&source=11

    I have a high ilvl comparing to my hunter mates.. but i do very few damage and i want to know if it is because of my equipment suck, or what am i doing wrong. :/
    Thanks for helping me.. please its not on this boss particularly but on every raid i do! you can see the other logs of my guild im always on them i think!
    gear: no 4set which is pretty huge. badly itemized off pieces, low crit. I'd expect you to do less damage than someone fully raid geared but lower ilvl. one of your rings is not enchanted
    logs:
    26/32 CS a bit on the low side. granted you don't have your 4set so you might delay CS waiting for AiS to finish but still.
    you didn't sync your RF with ring. without 4set RF haste+AiS=good. And when you don't sync the first RF with ring subsequent ones are going to be desynced because people use ring on CD. Dunno why your 3rd RF was popped before ring. scientists baffled @ lust timing
    I don't see why you used barrage 9 times, evenly throughout the fight. Barrage isn't good on 2 targets let alone single target.
    Why did you cast explosive trap 8 times?
    Why did you cast multishot 11 times?

    edit: learned how to view wclogs properly

    edit2: the barrage on 2 targets thing - it's less good than AiS+TotH with 4set but without 4set maybe it's as good? anyway you shouldn't be using it off cd on council
    Last edited by saistain; 2016-01-21 at 08:29 AM.

  4. #2024
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    Hey Saistain!!
    Explosive trap because i thought i should use it everytime its up, because no cost and some damage.. Multishot because of the adds on one part of the boss where the one of the guys disappear and a lot of adds like him appear on the map, and barrage because i forgot to change to Glaive Toss, and i thought it is better to use than aimshot, because it takes a lot of time of waiting for AiS. so the thing is, use always CS, and always AiS, Sync RF with the ring (Super important part) and the rest is equipment problem?
    Super thanks for the fast reply man! really appreciate! im going to have raid again tonight, so im going to try some different boss, and i will post the log! maybe i will change something on the items just to check if its better! have some good items banked just to try different stats!

  5. #2025
    explosive trap is a dps loss just because it doesn't do enough damage for its GCD. MS does very little damage and should never be used in raid. don't barrage on single target. barrage on 2 targets if you don't have any procs. barrage doesn't need to be used on CD and should be saved for when you can hit the most targets with it.

    read azor's guide if you haven't already
    Last edited by saistain; 2016-01-21 at 10:19 PM.

  6. #2026
    Spec MM
    Item Level740
    Expectations:Better DPS
    Armory Link:http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...iaroses/simple
    Warcraftlogs Link:https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...pe=damage-done

    I chose logs for a largely stand still fight. I am a very poor hunter and I know many things I am doing wrong but what I cannot figure out is why my fellow hunters tend to have up to 2x the Aimed Shots and Steady Shots. I have about 230-300 latency but I am not sure how much that impacts other than my opener has an obvious delay. Currently I am trying to work on lining up my pots, stampede, RF with ring and hero.

    1. I am wanting to know what is the biggest thing holding me back from my peers' dps. I do realize I only used 1 pot that fight, that is atypical and I do not remember why that would have happened.

    2. I do follow Azor' guide closely - using his weights my Mastery is much heavier than other hunters. Are my peers getting more AS and SS because they have higher MS chance? I notice looking at the logs that they have many more MS strikes than I do for all shots, stampede, and Mirror. My current armory shall reflect changing my gear to crit/ms heavy (lower ilvl) vs crit/ms/mastery weights as I am seeing if more ms helps even tho lower agi.

    3. When RF 2p proc comes up I am to have focus saved to spam AS correct?

    Thank you in advance.
    Last edited by Briaroses; 2016-01-25 at 03:18 PM.

  7. #2027
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    Spec MM
    Item Level 728
    Expectations: match the dps of the other hunters ( specifically the #1)
    Armory Link: battle.net/wow/en/character/frostmane/Zyrios/advanced
    Warcraftlogs Link: warcraftlogs.com/reports/D3dRTYnqCVgzxGJF#fight=22&type=summary

    *note : the mythic trinket i got after the fight, it was a HC one during the fight. also sorry for the links but appreantly i'm not allowed to post them yet =(

    i had come to terms fighting for 3rd place amongst the hunters in my guild for the longest time now, due to the fact that i tend to forsake sniper training allot in favor of movement for whatever reason (i have a WA to track the time windows but still) and the ocasional hickup in focus starvation at the wrong time. however that fight i didn't really have allot of hickups and i was quite proud of my preformance (stricly speaking for hunter mechanics) ie, high(ish) sniper training up time, didn't really miss allot of CS. i have had some focus wasted and i'm aware of that but other then that i think i did quite good. yet my dps is so much lower then that of #1 hunter despite being only 2 ILVLS apart. having finaly obtained the trinket from tyrant i ran out of reasons i can think of why my dps is so much lower. exhausted of ideas i now turn to you guys. have i interpeted icy veins wrong? is my rotation that fcked up? am i simply missing a cap or something? i have no clue

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    Marksman
    725
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    http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...tinct/advanced

    Hello. So, I just got my 4th piece of Tier and I am loving it already. It is so awesome, having 3 instant spells and one to regenerate focus. My question is, does Aimed Shot surpass Chimera now in terms of priority? Or is it the same and top Chimera should always be on CD then Aimed Shot, and if the target is below 35% is Kill Shot still king and has to be on CD?

    So what I am asking bassically is did anything change now that I have instant Aimed Shot?
    Last edited by Specialistul; 2016-01-29 at 07:18 PM.

  9. #2029
    Spec BM
    Item Level 719
    Expectations: 50k-ish
    Armory Link: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...oward/advanced
    Warcraftlogs Link: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...-done&source=6

    He is doing terrible DPS on Soc. He is my friend and guildy but wants to fix his dps. Can anyone help?
    His dps usually starts off strong on most bosses but fades to 30k. He does great in lfr but for some reason in actual raiding he's not noticable on the dps meters.

    Manno: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...rce=6&fight=13
    Last edited by Yardu; 2016-01-30 at 08:17 PM.

  10. #2030
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    Spec:MM
    IL:722
    Expectations:just wanna be better
    Armory battle.net/wow/en/character/drakthul/Pejro/simple
    Warcraftlogs warcraftlogs.com/reports/mwfL8j3YTctxPNdz#type=summary&source=233

    I just want to know if there is something i can improve,or if i´m doing something wrong.ty guys for your time and help.
    Mythic Council

  11. #2031
    Spec- MM
    Item Level-722
    Expectations:Competitive DPS
    Armory Link: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...ohunt/advanced
    Warcraftlogs Link: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/ranking...2078355/latest

    I didn't get ring until yesterday and haven't raided with it yet. I've compared logs with the other hunter in my raid and we always have similar spell usages. I firmly believe I'm not doing anything "wrong" and that my dps is so fucking low because of the lack of the ring. All that being said, I was hoping that maybe there was someone here more versed in looking over hunter logs than I am and could give me some kind of input.

    Here's an example. This was our cleanest Council kill.
    Here is my spell usage.
    Here is the other hunter's.

    Steady Shot. 82 to 82.
    Chimaera's. 31 to 29, in my favor.
    Kill Shots. 20 to 20.
    Aimed Shots. 55 to 69.

    We both had 11 Thrill procs. He, however, gained 220 more focus from Aimed Shot crits. I attribute that to the fact that he had 14 more casts and if we account for his 56.6% crit chance on Aimed Shots, that's 8 rounded up. 8 crits is 160 focus and most of the disparity in focus returned. From what I can see, most of those additional Aimed Shots came on Gurtogg. He had 29 compared to my 17. That's 12 of 14 extra casts.

    So my question is, why was he able to cast so many Aimed Shots compared to me?
    Whaleshark /spits on your science.

  12. #2032
    Marksman
    734
    Expectations: Competitive DPS
    Armory Link: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...Tavox/advanced
    Warcraftlogs Link: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/ranking...104448/latest/

    Hey, I'm having some issues with my DPS. I've seen people with my gear do at least 115k, but I've only managed around 85-95k. What's wrong? I've included some recent logs so you can see my performance etc. Thanks!
    "I dont blame my failures on the game and say: "ooh the game needs to be nerfed down to my level" NO!! I need to raise myself to the level of the game, and if i cant beat the content thats my own fault."

  13. #2033
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    Marksman
    737
    Expectations: 90% Bracket
    Armory Link: eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/ragnaros/Flindy/simple
    Warcraftlogs Link: warcraftlogs.com/rankings/character/1086492/latest/#boss=1777

    I'm looking for any advice on Zakuun & Reaver. I think i am burning too much focus on 50 Aimed Shots, rather than pooling more and waiting for ToTh. Any advice on my logs will be welcome.

  14. #2034
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    Spec: Marksmanship
    Item Level: 724
    Expectations: Some tips on what I'm doing wrong and what I could change

    Armory:http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...hyrexia/simple
    Logs: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...pe=damage-done


    I'm fairly new to Hunter's. I picked this up as my alt and I'm actually really enjoying it.

    I'm looking for some pointers or criticism to help me improve.

    I don't have the ring yet, I'm at least 2 resets away from it.

  15. #2035
    Quote Originally Posted by Specialistul View Post
    Marksman
    725
    Increase of DPS:

    Hello. So, I just got my 4th piece of Tier and I am loving it already. It is so awesome, having 3 instant spells and one to regenerate focus. My question is, does Aimed Shot surpass Chimera now in terms of priority? Or is it the same and top Chimera should always be on CD then Aimed Shot, and if the target is below 35% is Kill Shot still king and has to be on CD?

    So what I am asking bassically is did anything change now that I have instant Aimed Shot?
    The priority still stays the same, the one big change is to make sure you have enough focus when TotH procs so that you get full/quick use out of it while that hasn't really changed from before you will just have less "recharged focus" since there is no more cast time. Another thing that is essential is to make sure that you are sniping targets that are about 80% which is much easier now without the cast time.

  16. #2036

    Unhappy Aimed Shot Vs. Multishot

    HELP! I've been fighting with a friend (MM spec) for a couple of weeks now about Aimed Shot Vs. Multishot. She insists that Multishot is better in all situations because it is instant cast, but I'm in the mindset that since Aimed shot is 500% weapon damage more than makes up for the fact it has a cast time. Or is she right that Multi is better and I should shut up since I don't have a hunter?

  17. #2037
    Quote Originally Posted by HolyHammerStrike View Post
    HELP! I've been fighting with a friend (MM spec) for a couple of weeks now about Aimed Shot Vs. Multishot. She insists that Multishot is better in all situations because it is instant cast, but I'm in the mindset that since Aimed shot is 500% weapon damage more than makes up for the fact it has a cast time. Or is she right that Multi is better and I should shut up since I don't have a hunter?
    Multishot as a MM hunter, should never ever ever ever be used on anything ever. The damage to focus cost is no where near worth it and it is better to utilize Barrage in multi target situations as long as you are keeping Chimera shot on cooldown and are not focus starving yourself. Again NEVER USE MULTISHOT.

    Honestly I would have her take a look at Azor's guide because it appears she does need some assistance on what the correct rotation is.
    Last edited by Barrikade; 2016-02-24 at 01:55 PM.

  18. #2038
    Quote Originally Posted by Barrikade View Post
    Multishot as a MM hunter, should never ever ever ever be used on anything ever. The damage to focus cost is no where near worth it and it is better to utilize Barrage in multi target situations as long as you are keeping Chimera shot on cooldown and are not focus starving yourself. Again NEVER USE MULTISHOT.

    Honestly I would have her take a look at Azor's guide because it appears she does need some assistance on what the correct rotation is.
    Thanks for the info. For a moment I thought I was going crazy.

  19. #2039
    barrage, mirror trinket, and killshot until your heart gives out , its soooo much fun , especially if you have a few hunters in your raid, its a competition who can kill the mob the fastest

  20. #2040
    Spec MM
    Item Level 716
    Expectations: Better overall dps
    Armory Link: battle.net/wow/en/character/proudmoore/Caristinnqt/advanced
    Warcraftlogs Link: warcraftlogs.com/rankings/character/13050884/latest/
    (not allowed to post links yet, sorry)

    I've read Azor's hunter guide and try to do what I've read in there and i have definitely seen an increase in the dps i do but other hunters with even at lower ilvls seem to be able to match or beat my damage, I am missing legendary ring and 4 piece but does that really make that much of a difference?

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