1. #2141
    Spec: Marksmanship
    Item Level: 872
    Expectations: 320k ST
    Armory Link: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...ortogas/simple
    Warcraftlogs Link:https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...pe=damage-done

    i didnt use deadly grace in the last 2 pulls coz i run out of them,
    " In a Society like this table, a state of equilibrium, once one makes the first move, everyone must follow! In every era, this World has been operating by this napkin principle. And the one who ‘takes the napkin first’ must be someone who is respected by all. It’s not that anyone can fulfill this role… Those that are despotic or unworthy will be scorned. And those are the ‘losers"

  2. #2142
    Quote Originally Posted by Atonement View Post
    Thanks for the help guys, we ended up killing it last night with all our best dps here (and our top dps not healing). Akatsuki's dps improved a fair bit with this advice, and although he still wants to improve more, I think it was pretty good considering he was raid leading, which we all know is a huge distraction from our rotation.
    https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...pe=damage-done

    The number of Aimed Shots improved (71 up from 63) as did average damage of his aimed shot and marked shots, but are still a little bit lower than the logs I compared him to the other day.
    He would've been at like 370-380k if he lined up his last trueshot with bullseye. https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...uras&source=17

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    Quote Originally Posted by habitsbreaker View Post
    Spec: Marksmanship
    Item Level: 872
    Expectations: 320k ST
    Armory Link: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...ortogas/simple
    Warcraftlogs Link:https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...pe=damage-done

    i didnt use deadly grace in the last 2 pulls coz i run out of them,
    Line up your 2nd trueshot properly.

    https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...uras&source=22

  3. #2143
    Ignore post, we have figured it out.
    Last edited by Hornay; 2016-12-01 at 07:43 AM. Reason: Figured out

  4. #2144
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    Spec: Marksmanship
    Item Level: 873
    Expectations: 300k+ ST
    Armory Link: eu dot battle.net/wow/en/character/tarren-mill/Grenth/simple
    Warcraftlogs Link: www dot warcraftlogs.com/reports/q36PdXHhmrMDwjQ7/#type=damage-done&fight=2

    Hello,

    I believe that my dps is lower than i should be doing normally for my ilvl. I am always trying to get the priority system right,get as many AiS as i can during vulnerable,trying not to delay MS. Still i strongly believe that i am doing something wrong with my rotation. So any suggestions that will help me improve are greatly appreciated.

    Many thanks

    PS:I can't post any links so please feel free to add the dots.(After eu on the first one,after www on the second one)

  5. #2145
    Spec MM
    Item Level 881
    Expectations:Looking to improve where I am at now currently as I seem to be underperforming and I can't figure it out, looking for critiques what I can improve on what I should and shouldn't do things of that nature I am just trying to improve as an overall player as I just seem to be at a wall?
    Armory Link: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...%C3%A8s/simple
    Warcraftlogs Link: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/ranking...453390/latest/

  6. #2146
    You guys know of http://www.checkmywow.com/

    Just plug in your logs and it'll tell you how your doing(it can be quite harsh)

  7. #2147
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirbypro View Post
    2. You are delaying marked shot too long, I suspect that some of the are used after vulnerable falls off, go for the normal rotation pattern of SW > AiS > MS > AiS > AiS
    3. I think you are also spending too much focus
    I don't understand this. Even Azor's guide contradicts itself here. It says use AiS as many times as you can as long as you can cast MS before vulnerable falls off. So why only once? You can go twice or 3 times depending on haste and even 4 during BL without vulnerable falling off

  8. #2148
    Quote Originally Posted by saistain View Post
    I don't understand this. Even Azor's guide contradicts itself here. It says use AiS as many times as you can as long as you can cast MS before vulnerable falls off. So why only once? You can go twice or 3 times depending on haste and even 4 during BL without vulnerable falling off
    Well i was just putting out an observation while looking at your cast timeline, seemed that often there was a long time between SW cast and MS cast. I wasn't sure if Vuln was falling off before MS hit, it seemed like it.

  9. #2149
    Quote Originally Posted by Kirbypro View Post
    Well i was just putting out an observation while looking at your cast timeline, seemed that often there was a long time between SW cast and MS cast. I wasn't sure if Vuln was falling off before MS hit, it seemed like it.
    So is your normal rotation SW-AIS-MS-AIS-AIS? What's the benefit of using MS early rather than delaying it as much as possible?

  10. #2150
    Quote Originally Posted by saistain View Post
    So is your normal rotation SW-AIS-MS-AIS-AIS? What's the benefit of using MS early rather than delaying it as much as possible?
    Short answer is you might lose Vuln debuff if you delay too long because you forgot, out of focus, or lag.

    Long answer is there was a long chain of posts in the Azor guide topic talking about optimal MM rotation and focus capping and how many AiS after SW and after MS. Too long to summarize but you can look around there.

  11. #2151
    Spec Marksmanship
    Item Level 876
    Expectations:i am looking to improve my overall dps mainly on movement intensive fights like ursoc and odyn, i can do around 280k on mythic ursoc but its a struggle to do 200k on odyn heroic
    Armory Link: i cant post any links atm but if u search for my character name u can see my gear its déadlyaim
    Warcraftlogs Link:i cant post the logs atm but if u search my guild name drama cats u can find the logs

  12. #2152

    Fix my dps pls! =d

    warcraftlogs. com/reports/LAPyvXwrNQcFJVCx#fight=4

    THERES A SPACE after . com, newbie so cant post links yet!

    Hey guys I am Misphit the hunter in the above logs and just wondering if anyone can analyze my log to tell me what I am missing. I know I died last 30 secs of fight but for my ilvl and gear I feel I should be doing more dmg. Any help on a opener rotation change or anything would be greatly appreciated!!!!

    Thank you so much!

  13. #2153
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    Spec Marksmanship
    Item Level 865
    Expectations: 250k +
    Armory Link: /en/character/lightbringer/Reizar/simple
    Warcraftlogs Link: N/A

    I am using windburst and barrage on cd and trueshot just before I start casting aimed shots. And ofc I only cast aimed shot while vulnerable is up or where there's nothing else to cast. I must be missing something as I'm only doing 220k on both target dummy and ursoc

  14. #2154
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    Spec: Marksmanship
    Item Level: 869
    Expectations: Improving ST DPS overall
    Armory Link: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...yhunter/simple
    Warcraftlogs Link: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...one&source=100

    Switched to MM and would like advice on improving my DPS. Read guides but my dps is lacking.

  15. #2155
    Quote Originally Posted by MatthewOU2015 View Post
    Spec: Marksmanship
    Item Level: 869
    Expectations: Improving ST DPS overall
    Armory Link: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...yhunter/simple
    Warcraftlogs Link: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...one&source=100

    Switched to MM and would like advice on improving my DPS. Read guides but my dps is lacking.
    Trueshot is a huge dps CD so the best thing is to work on optimizing DPS during that.

    1. Rotation on pull bad, not precasting WB, not casting TS after your precast, wasting SW, read the icy veins guide again.
    2. Use TS during lust/execute, on ursoc, use after a charge so you don't get interrupted, additional bonus to track your trinket proc and use TS when your ursoc trinket procs.

  16. #2156
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    Spec Marksmanship
    Item Level 875 & 871
    Expectations: 370k (Zoldrìk) & 380k (Nileth) from their sims
    Armory Link: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...%C3%ACk/simple & http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte.../Nileth/simple
    Warcraftlogs Link: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Jd2ny83FXbtzvTcG or any log from "The Italian Job" on Nemesis-EU if you need more comparison

    Our hunter are not doing that great in raid, especially at Odyn HC and we will really need to perform well to be able to fast-phase the Hymdall and Herya in the 2nd phase. They have DPS problem in almost every boss but even more on this one. I would really like to help them as they are part of our core raid and always available to play. Thanks in advance for the help.
    Last edited by mmoccf90f6196d; 2016-12-13 at 02:29 PM.

  17. #2157
    Hello Everyone,
    Having a little problem with my dps. Usually I tend to be somewhat mid to low tier DPS with my raid group, but in Heroic Odyn I am getting smacked last and feel like I am holding my guildies back.
    Spec: Marksmanship
    Item level: 876
    Armory Link:us.battle.net/wow/en/character/amanthul/Adohokanda/simple
    Warcraft Logs:warcraftlogs.com/reports/VA84MQvFa3RWfxpr
    In recount I was above this around 200-220 k so nots sure why logs are so low. Thanks in advance

  18. #2158
    Hi guys,

    Hoping some well versed MM guys out there can help me figure out why my GF's hunter is abysmal in our raids. Shes struggled so much this tier, and I'm aware that having an 840 trinket in mythic raids is pretty unacceptable but outside of her obvious gearing issues, can you guys review our mythic logs from this week and let me know if I can provide any pointers? Here's our logs from mythic 1-4, and she really struggles on all of the fights from a parsing perspective. She's Shuoro in the logs below:

    https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...pe=damage-done

    Any help is most appreciated.

  19. #2159
    Hey Clutch,

    I'm at work at the moment and will reply in more detail later but from a quick look her opener is very wrong.

    Dragons:
    - she didn't pre-cast: this should be windburst ~2 seconds before pull straight after a prepot.
    -starting with 2xAiS isn't correct. Should be prepot, windburst, trueshot/any other cooldowns and then barrage. From there it's just normal priority; SW, marked shot then 2 or 3 x AiS then another SW and so on.

    (remind her with trueshot up SW is guaranteed marked shot proc)

    - she used back to back SW? That should NEVER occur. And it's in trueshot too which is even worse.

    (remind her never to cap focus and never to have 2 stacks of sidewinders - the whole spec revolves around those 2 ideas)

    Ursoc:
    - She again opens with 3 aimed shots.
    - From ~17 to ~22 seconds there isn't a single global used.
    - Windburst isn't used for the first 40 seconds of the fight. Could be using the 3rd by then.
    - At 117 she uses sidewinders without a proc.

    It looks like movement really hurts her (maybe bm which is a lot less punishing on movement - I know it's sub optimal but it's not useless especially for someone who can't get movement down pack)



    It basically just looks like she needs to learn the rotation a bit better and maybe work on movement. This thread is for more in depth issues but this seems more like an icey veins fix and then if there's still issues come back here.

    Hope it gets sorted mate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaiZuke View Post
    Spec Marksmanship
    Item Level 865
    Expectations: 250k +
    Armory Link: /en/character/lightbringer/Reizar/simple
    Warcraftlogs Link: N/A

    I am using windburst and barrage on cd and trueshot just before I start casting aimed shots. And ofc I only cast aimed shot while vulnerable is up or where there's nothing else to cast. I must be missing something as I'm only doing 220k on both target dummy and ursoc

    Hey mate you'll need to go into a run (anything will do - queue up for raidfinder) and log yourself.

    Look up a guide on how to combat log and upload it to warcraft logs and then post a link. Even if you do raid finder, play as well as you can and I can review it for you. There's really nothing anyone can do except write a guide (which Azortharion has done on icy veins) for you if we don't know what you're doing.
    Last edited by Krunkus; 2016-12-19 at 04:54 AM.

  20. #2160
    Stood in the Fire Nairesha's Avatar
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    Spec Marksmanship
    Item Level 869/70
    Expectations: 250k +
    Armory Link: http://eu.battle.net/wow/de/characte...%C3%ABl/simple
    Warcraftlogs Link: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...ht=1&source=12

    I know I had some movement issues / concentration problems last night. Aside from this, before doing that, I tested my brain by using "tell me when".
    While helpful, without it I was able to dish out more damage - so I removed it again.

    In Myth+ I seem to be better, too - maybe I'm just getting too slow?

    Anyways, all these things aside - could someone of my brethren / sisters have a look at the logs and assist me a bit?

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