1. #1201
    Quote Originally Posted by Supakaiser View Post
    Spec: Marksman
    Item Level: 654
    Expectations: More DPS
    Armory Link: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...darin/advanced
    WarcraftLogs Link:

    https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...pe=damage-done
    https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...-done&fight=22
    https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...e-done&fight=7

    My DPS seems quite inconsistent. The other hunter in our group is right on my heels most of the time despite being SV. Is it RNG, bad play or a mix?

    This is the first time since WOTLK where I feel I'm really missing something and am not confident about my DPS.

    You were not really doing anything wrong, it's just that it's kinda tough to get Chimera shot to do it's cleave damage on that fight. In order for it to cleave, targets have to be pretty close together. Most strats on that boss I've done have the bosses stacked up close, but not close enough for Chimera shot to cleave. Not to mention that fight has a lot of movement which can make it tough to keep ST up. SV can move and dps basically without any penalty of any kind so that may have contributed to the closeness of your dps as well.

  2. #1202
    Spec Marksman
    Item Level 649
    Expectations: Able to bring him up to Middle of the Pack dps so 17k+?
    Armory Link: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...3%A4ide/simple
    Warcraftlogs Link: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/FBr1ytbnC9H6ZY27

    Quick Disclaimer: this is for a guildie of mine, I know nothing about hunters or their rotations, I know they are quite strong and should be pulling more than 12k dps. He has been asking for help, I think he uses noxxic but I'm not sure. I don't really know where to send him mainly because my hunter is only level 93 and I just play him as an alt so I do very little research on hunter dps. I know we have 2 other hunters that are pulling pretty good numbers and he's been working pretty hard to try and get better. I know he switched from BM to Marksman recently. He was a tank previously and as far as I know he doesn't have much experience dpsing(?).

    If you guys could help him that would be great, I'll probably send him here. Are there any resources he should be checking out other than Icy-Veins/Mmo-champ forums? Any dedicated hunter websites?

  3. #1203
    Quote Originally Posted by Joresh View Post
    Spec Marksman
    Item Level 649
    Expectations: Able to bring him up to Middle of the Pack dps so 17k+?
    Armory Link: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...3%A4ide/simple
    Warcraftlogs Link: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/FBr1ytbnC9H6ZY27

    Quick Disclaimer: this is for a guildie of mine, I know nothing about hunters or their rotations, I know they are quite strong and should be pulling more than 12k dps. He has been asking for help, I think he uses noxxic but I'm not sure. I don't really know where to send him mainly because my hunter is only level 93 and I just play him as an alt so I do very little research on hunter dps. I know we have 2 other hunters that are pulling pretty good numbers and he's been working pretty hard to try and get better. I know he switched from BM to Marksman recently. He was a tank previously and as far as I know he doesn't have much experience dpsing(?).

    If you guys could help him that would be great, I'll probably send him here. Are there any resources he should be checking out other than Icy-Veins/Mmo-champ forums? Any dedicated hunter websites?
    It's my first time using warcraftlogs, but as far as I could see he didn't die on Karg and compared to one of your other hunters he just has way less casts of everything (esp. Chim shot and steady shot). He should always be casting something.

  4. #1204
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joresh View Post
    Spec Marksman


    Quick Disclaimer: this is for a guildie of mine, I know nothing about hunters or their rotations, I know they are quite strong and should be pulling more than 12k dps. He has been asking for help, I think he uses noxxic but I'm not sure. I don't really know where to send him mainly because my hunter is only level 93 and I just play him as an alt so I do very little research on hunter dps. I know we have 2 other hunters that are pulling pretty good numbers and he's been working pretty hard to try and get better. I know he switched from BM to Marksman recently. He was a tank previously and as far as I know he doesn't have much experience dpsing(?).

    If you guys could help him that would be great, I'll probably send him here. Are there any resources he should be checking out other than Icy-Veins/Mmo-champ forums? Any dedicated hunter websites?
    He is not using his abilities. He didn't cast Chimaera Shot for 4 Minutes!!! and thats our mainspell. And in my opinion he should get the crit enchantsments instead of the multistrike ones. I have 27% crit unbuffed with worse gear and he only got like 20%.
    Agi > Crit > Multistrike
    Using Chimeara Shot on cd is extremly important, tell him to use it everytime he can.

    Also he should use Rapid Fire right at pull instead of 17 seconds in. While the target is above 80% health a hunter gains 60% critchance so he should use all his cd's at the start of the fight.
    Last edited by mmoc22ac3ca6d3; 2014-12-12 at 09:55 PM.

  5. #1205
    Quote Originally Posted by Supakaiser View Post
    Spec: Marksman
    Item Level: 654
    Expectations: More DPS
    Armory Link: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...darin/advanced
    WarcraftLogs Link:

    https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...pe=damage-done
    https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...-done&fight=22
    https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...e-done&fight=7

    My DPS seems quite inconsistent. The other hunter in our group is right on my heels most of the time despite being SV. Is it RNG, bad play or a mix?

    This is the first time since WOTLK where I feel I'm really missing something and am not confident about my DPS.
    Butcher:
    Me in 646 did 23,264 DPS and you in 654 did 23,319 DPS.

    Difference in the two fights:
    Mine is 12 seconds longer, which should not have a major impact.

    Kill shot useable
    Mine: 35% = 31.967.738,25 = 2.29 minutes in = 1 minute and 11 seconds of kill shot
    Yours: 35% = 21.136.893,75 = 2.25 minutes in = 1 minute and 3 secons of kill shot

    Difference between us that matter:
    I have 3 more chimaera shots then you.
    You didn't use your potion together with your second Rapid fire and despite the better gear and LDSC you only peaked at ~53k, where I peaked at 56k. We both had very similar TotH procs during both Rapid Fires,
    You also have some parts where you are dipping down to 8k DPS after the boss is below 35%, where the lowest I go is 16k DPS, which seems odd that you are falling that low. My single target sims (Now in 652 gear) doesn't fall below ~18k after the boss has reached 35% either, so it would appear something is happening in your rotation that shouldn't happen.
    Last edited by Bllets; 2014-12-13 at 02:43 PM.

  6. #1206
    Spec: Marksman
    Item Level: 652
    Expectations: Higher dps, get as much as I can
    Armory Link: https://us.battle.net/wow/en/charact...ldion/advanced
    WarcraftLogs Link:
    https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Xd3K2kwMftVFnWAZ
    https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Xd3K2kwMftVFnWAZ

    Not sure if you want individual fights, but you can look at them all. I feel like I'm not doing as much dps as I could be. On Butcher I'm responsible for moving in and out of a group. I'm also verrrrry crappy with simcraft, so I don't actually know what I'm supposed to be pulling. (Yes, the 2 pvp pieces are part of my PvE gear)

    Also, the other hunter in my raid needs help as well, so I'll chuck this just below

    Spec: Marksman
    Item Level: 650
    Expectations: Same as mine
    Armory Link: https://us.battle.net/wow/en/charact...indre/advanced
    WarcraftLogs Link: Same as my logs

    Thanks in advance!
    also, stuff the 10 post cap for link posting -.-

  7. #1207
    Quote Originally Posted by Curaipally View Post
    Spec: Marksman
    Item Level: 652
    Expectations: Higher dps, get as much as I can
    Armory Link: https://us.battle.net/wow/en/charact...ldion/advanced
    WarcraftLogs Link:
    https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Xd3K2kwMftVFnWAZ
    https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Xd3K2kwMftVFnWAZ

    Not sure if you want individual fights, but you can look at them all. I feel like I'm not doing as much dps as I could be. On Butcher I'm responsible for moving in and out of a group. I'm also verrrrry crappy with simcraft, so I don't actually know what I'm supposed to be pulling. (Yes, the 2 pvp pieces are part of my PvE gear)

    Also, the other hunter in my raid needs help as well, so I'll chuck this just below

    Spec: Marksman
    Item Level: 650
    Expectations: Same as mine
    Armory Link: https://us.battle.net/wow/en/charact...indre/advanced
    WarcraftLogs Link: Same as my logs

    Thanks in advance!
    also, stuff the 10 post cap for link posting -.-
    I might miss some stuff but here's whatI got out of your brackenspore :

    You only used 1 pot and you delayed your rapidfire until lust so you didn't benefit as much from trinkets / or pot during aimed shot spams
    Your sniper training uptime could be higher
    You missed uptime on rejuvinating spores during the first blue mushroom you had up
    barrage is much better than glaive toss on that fight due to the amount of multiple targets

    That's all I can see of the top of my head

  8. #1208
    Thanks for the response

    That looks like it was for my guildie I was aware of glaive toss for that fight, she forgot to change haha.
    I'll make sure that she uses both pots and rapid fire from the start.

  9. #1209
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    Item Level 650
    Expectations: Higher DPS, or at least higher than the lesser geared hunters in my group.
    Armory Link: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...Arlaria/simple
    Warcraftlogs Link: Log
    So yeah, mostly focusing on the butcher here since if I'm messing up dps when not moving...then I'm definitively messing up when worrying about other stuffs.(Plus I was unable to focus for the rest of the raid due to reasons...)

    I'm kinda at a loss. I've read over a few of these and the two major issues don't seem to be there?
    Most pulls have a 29-30 possible chim shots...and I hit most of those, only missing 2-4 at most.
    I have almost as many Kill Shots as possible.

    Sooo yeah. Any help would be very much appreciated.
    Last edited by seam; 2014-12-14 at 05:53 AM.

  10. #1210
    Quote Originally Posted by seam View Post
    Spec MM
    Item Level 650
    Expectations: Higher DPS, or at least higher than the lesser geared hunters in my group.
    Armory Link: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...Arlaria/simple
    Warcraftlogs Link: Log
    So yeah, mostly focusing on the butcher here since if I'm messing up dps when not moving...then I'm definitively messing up when worrying about other stuffs.(Plus I was unable to focus for the rest of the raid due to reasons...)

    I'm kinda at a loss. I've read over a few of these and the two major issues don't seem to be there?
    Most pulls have a 29-30 possible chim shots...and I hit most of those, only missing 2-4 at most.
    I have almost as many Kill Shots as possible.

    Sooo yeah. Any help would be very much appreciated.
    Based on this: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...e=2&graph=true

    Fight length: 5 minutes and 6 seconds = 306 seconds. But you died 4 minutes and 26 seconds in (286 seconds), this obviously has a negative effect on your DPS due to less kill shots.

    Several issues as far as I see:
    Chimaera: 286 seconds / 9 seconds = ~32.7, but getting it exactly off CD can be a bit difficult, so let us just say roughly 31. You had 28, that's a total of 4.7 you missed from perfect play.

    Kill shot: 35% is hit roughly 202 seconds in, that gives 84 seconds of kill shots, which should be 16 kill shots. You had 10, that means you missed 6, which is quite a fair amount.

    You used potion outside Rapid fire, but instead used it with bloodlust. Not entirely sure what is best, but I can see in your case, you would have been able to use both with BL and then Rapid fire afterwards, if you had delayed the pot. Might have been more beneficial, but not 100% sure.

    Also you got no TotH together with your initial Rapid Fire, this obviously hurts your DPS by quite a margin.

    Your focused also hit 120 twice, and were at 120 for 4 seconds the second time., which obviously is not 100% perfect.

    To me there are some issues, but the earlier death lowers your overall DPS, since you going to miss a fair amount of kill shots. The other points all adds up to a lower DPS then expected/wanted.

  11. #1211
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  12. #1212
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    Item Level 662
    Expectations: first time playing a hunter, wondering if im doing anything majorly wrong, or what can be improved.
    Armory Link: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte.../Opshot/simple
    Warcraftlogs Link: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...pe=damage-done

    Here is a vid of me playing (ignore first 30 seconds), logs above is this fight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnQ29PmatSg

    Be kind, when keeping in mind that this was a mythic progression kill, andn I was being super careful with not getting hit by anything, since 90% of the crap there will kill you instantly. Uptime on ST is for me is usually in the 90-100% for other bosses.

    I need to work on having enough focus to use abiltiies the moment they come off CD, i know that for sure.
    Last edited by opbear; 2014-12-15 at 06:03 AM.

  13. #1213
    Quote Originally Posted by opbear View Post
    Spec MM
    Item Level 662
    Expectations: first time playing a hunter, wondering if im doing anything majorly wrong, or what can be improved.
    Armory Link: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte.../Opshot/simple
    Warcraftlogs Link: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...pe=damage-done

    Here is a vid of me playing (ignore first 30 seconds), logs above is this fight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnQ29PmatSg

    Be kind, when keeping in mind that this was a mythic progression kill, andn I was being super careful with not getting hit by anything, since 90% of the crap there will kill you instantly. Uptime on ST is for me is usually in the 90-100% for other bosses.

    I need to work on having enough focus to use abiltiies the moment they come off CD, i know that for sure.
    Missing 6 chimera shots is honestly what hurts you the most. None of your focus was wasted, so that's very good. If you are having trouble with having enough focus to use chimera shot on cooldown, don't use aimed shot quite as much. Overall, for a hectic fight like that, id say that your already in good shape.

  14. #1214
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    Item Level 653
    Expectations: 3-5k above simcraft numbers (currently is at like 22kish)
    Armory Link: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte.../Sarnus/simple
    Warcraftlogs Link:
    https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/2vy97faMYbjg3XnR
    https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Yczgrf7wqFXpNG9y

    Currently I'm just progressing through heroic so it's not a big deal. I've been looking around trying to figure out how I can get the most out of my DPS, but I feel like I need some more outside help.
    One thing I know I have problems with is combining Aimed shot and Chim shot together, even when Chim shot is off CD, but I've been making improvements.

    Thanks in advance,
    Sarnus

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    Expectations Wondering if there's something urgent that needs fixing
    Armory eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/outland/Z%C3%A9ant/simple
    logs warcraftlogs.com/reports/yQ3fDWw6cNTzKLJa

    Trying to figure out what is wrong with the dps

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Noobis- View Post
    Spec Marks
    Item Level 648
    Expectations: Anything above what i can do now
    Armory Link: u s.battle.net/wow/en/character/arthas/Noobis/advanced
    Warcraftlogs Link: w ww.warcraftlogs.com/guilds/20045/

    Just joined a new guild, looking to impress them as much as possible. I have a bad habit of not knowing when to use 2nd pot as well as dumping to much focus. Any help is taken with great appreciation.
    I can't seem to find you on any of the logs, do you have a specific link to the logs rather than the guild?

  18. #1218
    Log:https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...e&source=23,26
    Spec: MM
    Character : http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...enafowl/simple
    Ilvl: 658
    Expectations : To raise my dps past it's current roadblock
    I've linked a comparison to another hunter from another guild that recently killed H Kargath -who ranked and parsed much higher than myself
    I would like to know what exactly I'm doing incorrectly- and if there's anything blatantly obvious I can fix to boost my damage.

  19. #1219
    Spec MM
    Item Level 645
    Expectations: Higher DPS
    Armory Link: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...e/Yuzia/simple
    Warcraftlogs Link: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...pe=damage-done

    Hi, I'm new to MM and looks like i'm surely do something wrong. While other hunters topping in top 5, I Always fallling behind like between #11-#15
    Thanks at advance!

  20. #1220
    Quote Originally Posted by Syphke View Post
    Spec MM
    Item Level 645
    Expectations: Higher DPS
    Armory Link: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...e/Yuzia/simple
    Warcraftlogs Link: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...pe=damage-done

    Hi, I'm new to MM and looks like i'm surely do something wrong. While other hunters topping in top 5, I Always fallling behind like between #11-#15
    Thanks at advance!
    Really simple... compare you to the top hunter in your raid. Almost the same # of chimera shots, but you had almost half his aimed shots. #1 rule as marksman: NEVER. STOP. CASTING. You should at any given time ALWAYS be doing something. If you are low on focus, steady shot... high on focus, aimed shot. Do not sit there for a second because chimera shot is coming off CD. ALWAYS DO SOMETHING. ALWAYS.

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