Update: Added some more information from Ghostcrawler about the Cosby Suite.

Employee Response to Bobby Kotick's Statement
The Verge has posted an employee response to Bobby Kotick's letter.
Originally Posted by MMO-Champion
On the evening before our employee walkout, Activision Blizzard leadership released a statement apologizing for their harmful responses to last week’s DFEH lawsuit. While we are pleased to see that our collective voices — including an open letter with thousands of signatures from current employees — have convinced leadership to change the tone of their communications, this response fails to address critical elements at the heart of employee concerns.

Activision Blizzard’s response did not address the following:

  • The end of forced arbitration for all employees.
  • Worker participation in oversight of hiring and promotion policies.
  • The need for greater pay transparency to ensure equality.
  • Employee selection of a third party to audit HR and other company processes.

Today’s walkout will demonstrate that this is not a one-time event that our leaders can ignore. We will not return to silence; we will not be placated by the same processes that led us to this point.

This is the beginning of an enduring movement in favor of better labor conditions for all employees, especially women, in particular women of color and transgender women, nonbinary people, and other marginalized groups.

We expect a prompt response and a commitment to action from leadership on the points enumerated above, and look forward to maintaining a constructive dialogue on how to build a better Activision Blizzard for all employees.

Today, we stand up for change. Tomorrow and beyond, we will be the change.



Additional Information on Cosby Suite
Kotaku published some additional information about the Cosby Suite. It also confirms that Afrasiabi was terminated for his misconduct in 2020.

Reddit users have also posted about related tweets that aren't in the article.

An employee brought these 2013 events to our attention in June 2020," a spokesperson for Activision Blizzard told Kotaku when asked about the “Cosby Suite” images and allegations against Afrasiabi. “We immediately conducted our own investigation and took corrective action. At the time of the report, we had already conducted a separate investigation of Alex Afrasiabi and terminated him for his misconduct in his treatment of other employees.



Ghostcrawler's Reply to the Cosby Suite
Ghostcrawler issued a statement about the Cosby Suite.


Originally Posted by MMO-Champion
Re: the group chat. Dave was talking about his own wife and a friend. It was a joke, not intended for a broad audience. But the chat is gross and I completely understand how it looks. I should have said something. (Source)
I am seriously questioning your leadership ability if you think "it was a joke" is the right thing to say here. Jokes like that are never harmless. They normalize the behavior that led to more abuse towards women.
I understand that and can't excuse it. I'll own the tasteless group chat that I was in. I wanted to correct the narrative about the Cosby room or that women were creepily being recruited for it. (Source)

"created a lot of discussion that risks overshadowing the work you're doing" seems to be your go to response. Something comes out that portrays you in a negative light, and so it's a "distraction" from the real issue...

There are hundreds of people working at Riot who had nothing to do with this and it's unfair to them that they are having to deal with something that happened at a former employer. (Source)

Do you think people actually buy this or are you just doing it to make yourself feel better now
Do you think it makes more sense that I would tweet about it to however many followers I had at the time if I thought there was something inappropriate and hope nobody noticed? (Source)

I looked up to you for many years as a designer & leader, as many have, and this response lets everyone down. you weren't 18. you were in charge of hundreds, thousands of people, and did nothing. you didn't trip and fall into this photo frame. take the L. the rest of us sure are.
At Blizzard? I was in charge of the systems design team - maybe 30 people. I would have loved a director or VP title but they never gave me one. If you know me like you say you do, ask yourself: does this seem like Greg?
Does it sound like the Greg I’ve had personal conversations with? Maybe not. But I also didn’t think you’d have been silent on that panel, or silent around Afrasiabi, or any of the other guys, open-secret or otherwise, many have known you to be close to.

I am not out to end your career or anything. I don’t have that power. But I do have the ability to tell you how this response and your part in all this deeply affects so many of us, and how it doesn’t feel like it addresses the real issues and harm at play.

Because I’ll tell you what it does sound like. Greg Street, the chill, wise, reserved dude who’s very accepting of people - even when he shouldn’t be - not realizing his role, the power of his voice, the weight of his implied approval? That does sound like you & thats not unique.

Yeah I wish I had said something on the panel or in the chat. I regret that. I can't take it back. It was 10 years ago, and I was junior to a bunch of those dudes. I have more confidence and fewer Fs to give now. There's a reason you don't hear stories like this about me at Riot. (Source)

What I don't understand is why you can't even say "yep, I should have seen that and didn't. my tragic bad, but I do try to be better these days."
I have tried to say that over and over. I didn’t see it. I should have. I am sorry. (Source)
This article was originally published in forum thread: Employee Resposne to Bobby Kotick, Additional Information on Cosby Suite started by chaud View original post
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  1. The Oblivion's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Explosivo View Post
    if you don't see how this reflects on the culture that gave them the name Cosby suites, you're clueless
    https://trends.google.com/trends/exp...q=cosby%20rape cosby wasnt really a common well known thing when this took place. it did not blow up until 2014 for nearly everyone. sure some people knew, but most didnt. thats why it didnt blow up in 2013.
  1. Explosivo's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by The Oblivion View Post
    more evidence the cosby stuff was not wide spread in 2013
    https://trends.google.com/trends/exp...q=cosby%20rape
    because people didn't google "cosby rape" means it was a secret? what?
  1. chorx's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Explosivo View Post
    if you don't see how this reflects on the culture that gave them the name Cosby suites, you're clueless
    I challenge you to google "Cosby Suite" and set your search result timepicker to "1/1/2001 to 1/1/2012" and pass along some examples that stand the test of time. Don't worry, I wont hold my breath on this one.
  1. Kevyne-Shandris's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Val the Moofia Boss View Post
    "Group chat"

    So what? Congrats on finding some guy's private, casual group chat. Boohoo. Company policy isn't made in there.
    BUT it can.

    PROVE it doesn't.

    SEE???
  1. The Oblivion's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Explosivo View Post
    because people didn't google "cosby rape" means it was a secret? what?
    it just shows the public didnt really start talking and knowing about it widely until 2014. its revisionist to pretend otherwise. Could people have looked into bill cosby and found out? sure. But its disingenuous to say most did. cosby was not widely know to be a rapist until 2014. In 2013 he was still doing shows, making appearances, giving talks etc.
  1. Explosivo's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by The Oblivion View Post
    it just shows the public didnt really start talking and knowing about it widely until 2014. its revisionist to pretend otherwise. Could people have looked into bill cosby and found out? sure. But its disingenuous to say most did. cosby was not widely know to be a rapist until 2014. In 2013 he was still doing shows, making appearances, giving talks etc.
    thinking google trends is accurate shows you are out of your mind
  1. chorx's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by The Oblivion View Post
    it just shows the public didnt really start talking and knowing about it widely until 2014. its revisionist to pretend otherwise. Could people have looked into bill cosby and found out? sure. But its disingenuous to say most did. cosby was not widely know to be a rapist until 2014. In 2013 he was still doing shows, making appearances, giving talks etc.
    It takes a truly vile kind of human to retroactively apply the standards of today to somebody a decades past and hold them accountable for something with assumption that 'they knew bro'.
  1. Explosivo's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by chorx View Post
    I challenge you to google "Cosby Suite" and set your search result timepicker to "1/1/2001 to 1/1/2012" and pass along some examples that stand the test of time. Don't worry, I wont hold my breath on this one.
    i'm sorry, are you seriously trying to find ways to defend someone that was removed from the company because even they found accusations of sexual harassment credible?
  1. Kevyne-Shandris's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by The Oblivion View Post
    more evidence the cosby stuff was not wide spread in 2013
    https://trends.google.com/trends/exp...q=cosby%20rape
    You're using Google to show and tell it wasn't widespread, KNOWING all the cross-talk here about arbitration and NDAs?

    Like I said to MoanaLisa, things aren't being said and hammered HOME about employment and employee rights and the damn processes, that ALLOWS BS like this to be posted as excuses.

    Willful ignorance is WILLFUL.
  1. Explosivo's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by chorx View Post
    It takes a truly vile kind of human to retroactively apply the standards of today to somebody a decades past and hold them accountable for something with assumption that 'they knew bro'.
    are you a fucking idiot? when did i say ghost crawler is guilty too because of this? show me the quote. go on. link the point. i'll wait, you vile sociopath
  1. The Oblivion's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Kevyne-Shandris View Post
    You're using Google to show and tell it wasn't widespread, KNOWING all the cross-talk here about arbitration and NDAs?

    Like I said to MoanaLisa, things aren't being said and hammered HOME about employment and employee rights and the damn processes, that ALLOWS BS like this to be posted as excuses.

    Willful ignorance is WILLFUL.
    knowing cosby was a rapist 100% was not widespread and known by most people until 2014 and later. This is just reality.
  1. Femininity's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by The Oblivion View Post
    knowing cosby was a rapist 100% was not widespread and known by most people until 2014 and later. This is just reality.
    You're wasting your time. They're going to believe what they want to believe.
  1. justandulas's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by World Peace View Post
    You're wasting your time. They're going to believe what they want to believe.
    I remember shows making jokes about it nearly a decade before that. Chappelle, 30 rock, and about a dozen other shows made references to it

    It was known. So was the Weinstein stuff but just not by 99% of the general population. But people in the know? Out in California who worked in the entertainment business? They knew. Hell, the Cosby jokes date back to the 90s
  1. agentsi's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by uuuhname View Post
    you don't care if people get sexually harassed in the work place, we get it. I feel bad for anyone who has to work with or for you.
    That wasn't sexual harrassment, those were folks talking amongst trusted friends.

    No one grabbed someone, no one forced themselves on to someone else. No one did any of that. A few guys thought they could trust the room, and made jokes amongst themselves that friends often do.

    You've done it, I've done it, everyone has done it in some way shape or form. If you say you haven't, youre just a liar
  1. jellmoo's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by agentsi View Post
    lol what a shit show.

    They really think employees get to dictate company policy? Do they have any idea how many people would kill for their job at Blizzard?

    Fire them, get new folks. Done.
    Do you think that top end game developers, programmers, artists, vfx gurus, production folk just what... grow on trees? That losing swaths of your in house expertise and knowledge is fixed by 'just magically replace them'? For fuck's sake, recruitment in the game industry favours the employee not the employer right now as demonad is very high.

    Just replace them is a boneheded take when you have mass employee grievance.
  1. uuuhname's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by agentsi View Post
    That wasn't sexual harrassment, those were folks talking amongst trusted friends.

    No one grabbed someone, no one forced themselves on to someone else. No one did any of that. A few guys thought they could trust the room, and made jokes amongst themselves that friends often do.

    You've done it, I've done it, everyone has done it in some way shape or form. If you say you haven't, youre just a liar
    omg dude are you seriously pretending like that is the only thing that happened?
  1. agentsi's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by TheRevenantHero View Post
    Translation: Blizzard shouldn't change anything. Just start hiring people who won't complain about being sexually harassed.
    Women back in the day would laugh at what these children call sexual harrassment or lewd conduct. This shit isn't even close. Their ears are too sensitive, and they think they need safe spaces to not do their job.

    grow up
  1. uuuhname's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by agentsi View Post
    Women back in the day would laugh at what these children call sexual harrassment or lewd conduct. This shit isn't even close. Their ears are too sensitive, and they think they need safe spaces to not do their job.

    grow up
    wow, no those women you're talking about were probably too sacred to speak out. if anything things have improved to the point where women feel confident enough to talk about it.
  1. qwerty123456's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Kevyne-Shandris View Post
    WOAH! No!

    1/3 is from Child SEXUAL Abuse (CSA) can become perps, IF, they don't get treatment. If they do they can be helped.

    CSA causes "soul murder" and it's particularly harmful.

    NEVER use abuse as an excuse to claim "well they were abused so they were so-and-so...". It's patently offensive and wrong.
    I never said that. I said that being abused doesn't mean you are going to be a good person because TheRevenantHero claimed to know the other guy was lying about his abuse due to the guy being a troll.


    Quote Originally Posted by TheRevenantHero View Post
    There's a different between being a jerk and actively trying to invalidate this entire lawsuit.
    You think abusing others after being abused yourself is being less of a jerk thing to do than trying to invalidate an entire argument? My point was that clearly being abused doesn't mean you are a saint. To deny someone else because they are someone you don't like is absolutely despicable especially when you are trying to be the moral high road.
  1. PenguinChan's Avatar
    I fail to see what the issue here is. The Cosby suite is unfortunate timing and Kotaku doing click bait, they're drinking at Blizzcon which is ... Normal, they always have and had been known to. The group chat may be an offender, but if what Dave said on twitter is true then it's really poor sexual jests. It makes the most sense, but people will immediately jump to grooming without any context - same for the Cosby things.

    Or I'm wrong and they totally made it routine to gather girls and fuck them in the room, we probably will never know.

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