Patch 9.2 PTR - Blizzard Updates on Double Legendary Timeframe
Originally Posted by blizzard (Blue Tracker / Official Forums)
Hello all,

Thanks for everyone’s feedback on the Enlightened Legendary belts and memories, and on the issue of when you can obtain them and what activities they require. We have some changes coming to a future PTR build that I’d like to talk about a bit.

First, what are we doing? The Belt of Unity is moving from the Enlightened reputation and into the campaign quest for Zereth Mortis. You’ll be able to obtain it at the end of Chapter 7 of the Zereth Mortis campaign, which we hope will feel like a nice crowning accomplishment. The Memory of Unity is remaining on the Enlightened reputation vendor, and will remain an account-wide unlock like other Legendary Memories from Shadowlands, but will now additionally require that you’ve completed Chapter 7 in order to purchase it. This Memory means that when your second, third, or tenth character is ready to start Eternity’s End that they’ll be able to craft an Enlightened Legendary right away. The new questing requirement is being added to head off any feeling of needing to rush ahead to Revered for progression on your main character. We’re also still debating some other possible changes to the overall structure of Zereth Mortis rewards, but I don’t have concrete details to share on those yet.

Some folks have asked why there’s a delay in acquiring a second legendary at all. The answer there is that we have goals for your characters to grow over the course of the patch, allowing them to overcome challenges they couldn’t initially overcome. One specific example here is the difficulty of Sepulcher of the First Ones: by keeping the Enlightened Legendary a little bit in The Future from the raid’s launch, we can tune the raid at a difficulty that allows early progression to be bolstered by additional power once players start hitting stumbling blocks. If this power was instead available to your characters on the first day, tuning would have to take that into account for people who expect the first few weeks to be challenging, and that would in turn deprive many raids of what we think will be a fun and enjoyable boost in power after striving as far as they can without it.

It’s important to us that there’s a pretty level playing field with the Enlightened Legendary in terms of when different players obtain it. We want it to be an impactful moment of growth for your characters, getting to change the rules of how they play the game for the rest of Eternity’s End. Our initial plans of putting it on the Enlightened reputation had this intent, in that we were planning to distribute most of the reputation gains on campaign quests and on quests that players would do once or twice a week, but we hear you that this structure still felt unsatisfying for players whose free time lends itself more to periodic long sessions than for frequent shorter ones. We feel that moving the Enlightened Legendary into the quest campaign will be even more egalitarian while still providing a very satisfying growth moment.

As always, we’re still open to and listening to feedback here, so once the changes go up, please do continue to tell us how you feel about them.
Originally Posted by blizzard (Blue Tracker)
So what week is Chapter 7 released on? A timeline would be helpful <3
Good point, yeah, sorry about that. Chapter 7 will be available on the third week after the Mythic raid opens. So there will be two full weeks of Mythic raiding during which nobody can have two legendaries, after which they should be available to everyone.
Originally Posted by blizzard (Blue Tracker)
Having done the questline, I have to ask: Why make the legendary item a belt? We just forged the Crown of Wills, would that not have been a better legendary than some random belt?
Totally fair question. We looked at what slots players have crafted legendaries in, and tried to pick the slot we thought would disrupt as few people as possible. Also, given that tier sets are back in Eternity’s End, we want to avoid putting this new Unity legendary in any slot that conflicts with tier gear. As with many things in design, there’s not an objective right or wrong choice here, but that was the thinking behind picking the Waist slot.
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  1. Xath's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by h8ryan View Post
    5 weeks as opposed to a time gated rep grind?

    Just say you're dumb and move on
    The "timegated" rep took 20 days, 20 days vs 35. Not saying that's why but saying that it takes longer now.
  1. rrayy's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by crazyswayzee View Post
    Thanks for the changes blizz! Acc wide and no rep behind it is awesome!
    There is rep behind it. In order to get it to your alts, your main must be revered with The Enlightened.
  1. crusadernero's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by AstroPup View Post
    Someone in my guild a few weeks back was like "Sub runs out in 10 days and I'm not renewing cause the game sucks. What should I work on today?" (in game). And I just thought if your sub runs out because you cancelled it "cause the game sucks" then why are you even playing it right now and counting down the days? It makes 0 sense.
    Wouldnt be surprised one bit if many of the "this game sucks" ppl in-game and on forums actually do play fairly regularly. I've known people from IRL & ingame that has played the game for months on end while bitching about the game all the way. They keep on going like that and eventually they get total meltdown and quit. Only to come back a bit later and repeat the whole process.
  1. Deadite's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by crusadernero View Post


    Yes, thats pretty much the plan for complainers. Ideally they would prefer to get it day 1 of patch 9.2 so they could unsub again and hit the forums for complaints!

    No sarcasm.
    Yeah but 5 weeks? I guess if you are happy to do what will be 30 mins of questing each week for 5 weeks and are happy with that then fill your boots. I get that people are happy your main won't have to grind rep but 5 weeks seems mental to me.
  1. thelordymir's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by crusadernero View Post
    Wouldnt be surprised one bit if many of the "this game sucks" ppl in-game and on forums actually do play fairly regularly.
    Of course some do...doesn't mean the game doesn't suck or there are major issues that need fixing. Turns out you can enjoy bits of a game or playing with your friends but also absolutely fucking detest all time gating and horrible lore of the game and wish it would get better and voice your concerns.
  1. crusadernero's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by thelordymir View Post
    Of course some do...doesn't mean the game doesn't suck or there are major issues that need fixing. Turns out you can enjoy bits of a game or playing with your friends but also absolutely fucking detest all time gating and horrible lore of the game and wish it would get better and voice your concerns.
    Then i'd suggest that got very little with actual having fun in the game at all. Thats more over on the addicted spectre. I mean, keep on playing a game you detest, dislike, thinking that sucks, is annoying and makes you angry/frustrated is not really a healthy approach at all.

    The argument about friends can easily be solved by spending time playing other games. If not, it is most of the time enough just hanging out in discord chatting while playing various games.

    Its one thing to have a critical look to the game, cause there are ofc issues with it. Its something very different when people just go apeshit and text literally useless info like "THIS GAME SUCKS!!!!!" while still playing. Its just weird.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deadite View Post
    Yeah but 5 weeks? I guess if you are happy to do what will be 30 mins of questing each week for 5 weeks and are happy with that then fill your boots. I get that people are happy your main won't have to grind rep but 5 weeks seems mental to me.
    This will be an "issue" for the first 5 weeks. After that, any player that joins in and start the campaign can probably just do it all in one play session. The campaign is staggered cause they want to tell a story, since its connected to things that happens in the raid.

    If nothing else, 9.2 will probably last 8+ months so non of us are really in a hurry.
  1. Aritra the Gnome's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by lordjust View Post
    Wowhead did an article where they showed it takes about 4 weeks to get the necessary rep if you do everything that's available because there isn't a way to farm rep (you get no rep by collecting cyphers). If you're human, use the darkmoon fair buff and the craftable repbuff from inscription you could cut it down to 3 weeks to have it unlocked when mythic opens.

    Also it isn't 7 weeks. Raid opens usally 2 weeks after release, 1 week of nomrla+heroic and then 2 weeks of mythic. So that's 5 weeks of doing just the campaign instead of 3-4 weeks of doing everything.
    Do the campaign quests reward NO rep this time around? Yikes...
    But it IS still 6-7 weeks to get just the rank 6 Belt (and the memory to make a rank 7 belt) from when the patch drops unless multiple chapters are available from the get-go since you get the belt at the end of chapter 7.
  1. NordWitcher's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by MrLachyG View Post
    People who raid aren’t not going to raid just because they don’t have double leggos. If you’re subbing solely to get the double legendary then just wait til it’s released (week 3 of mythic), sub and get it. Literally that simple
    That isn't how it works. I think each new chapter unlocks every week. So you still gotta wait for 5 weeks.
  1. MrLachyG's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by NordWitcher View Post
    That isn't how it works. I think each new chapter unlocks every week. So you still gotta wait for 5 weeks.
    Nope. You wait till then and all the chapters are available
  1. Segus1992's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by NordWitcher View Post
    That isn't how it works. I think each new chapter unlocks every week. So you still gotta wait for 5 weeks.
    It is how it's worked for a while. It's 5 weeks only if you play consistently. If you want to play/pay little, sub on week 5 and get it in one day.
  1. whyabadi's Avatar
    Double legendary is not exactly "new content". Play the game if you enjoy it, double legendary or otherwise.

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