Patch 4.2 Models - Overfiend, Dual Heroic Boss Solo Kill, MMO Report, Comics

Originally Posted by reve

Raegwyn getting 5% more heal on DS . Oh yeaaaa he needs it apparently :-).

Seriously though awesome stuff.

he's not, it already does 20%, its just a TOOLTIP FIX

Originally Posted by thunderdragon2

hmm any1 else having a prob getting the mmo report started? the comic is sooo true

Yeah, people on the actual website have reported issues loading the episode. I'm having issues myself.

These two bosses are all about not staying in the aoe. And because of uber selfhealing of DK tanks, they are easily to be soloed by him.

Hunters have also the possibility to solo them, but i think its doable only alone, because controlling tanking pet, making damage from main char and tanking two bosses at the time can be impossible...

Originally Posted by Seme

Lol, nice comic



Yes, he did pick bosses where the mechanics can be bypassed with half a brain, but to say this is unimpressive is laughable.

1) He is soloing 2 bosses at the same time, not just 1 boss.
2) He is soling current cataclysm bosses while we're still in freaking 4.0.x. If this was 4.3+ with legendary weapons, it would be a different matter. but still in 4.0!?!
3) I can only imagine this took a lot of time and effort and many, many wipes.
4) I couldn't do this, is way too much hassle

Just blindly criticising the hard work that others do, while you just sit there and watch is pretty moronic. if its so unimpressive, feel free to do it yourself and post your video.

How is it blindly criticizing? There are 2 heroic bosses back to back that cannot kill a geared tank with their damage. They solely rely on shit on the ground to do it for them. Slabhide doesn't even attack anyone during 50% of the encounter b/c he is in the air. Like others have posted, spriests have had to tank slabhide, lots of people have solo'd these bosses when people have fallen over dead from not moving in time. These bosses are specifically designed to teach you not to stand in stuff and that is why they are being nerf'd because people are still too stupid.

I'm not criticizing the video, I think it's cool, all I said was it was the least impressive video he's posted. Everybody else likes to read into comments, I never said it wasn't good work. It's not an easy task, I admit that, all I ever said was that it's kinda unimpressive b/c dozens of groups have had to watch their tanks solo these bosses, it's neat to see them both go down at once, just literally picking 2 bosses that cannot kill you due to current glyphs and specs doesn't instantly make me fall to my knees and grovel. Read into what you want....

Didn't take long for Blizz to pretty much copy Rags skin/model and make trash mobs out of it.. Good job..

and nerf DKS O.o

MY MMO REPORT WHY IS THE LINK DOWN /suicide

Take the skin off this model and apply it directly to an existing doomgard model and compare them. Tell me what you notice.

That they use the same basic skeleton. So what?

God forbid they use the same skeleton for TRASH MOBS!

The only thing Raegwyn does is that he actually does play his class as it is intended to be played.
99% of players can't play DK so good.
But..
What it really means in minds of casuals - DK as a class has to be nerfed, cause that guy can solo two heroic bosses (one of those bosses is claimed to be the best random group disbander) and I (casual druid/paladin/warrior) can't do it. Let me hear all the whine of haters.. "DK are OP"/"nerf DK, cause I can't play my paladin on same level"/"buff druid so I can solo 2 bosses at the same time too" etc etc etc
I wish Raegwyn was playing in my guild. So skilled, so good..

I can't tell if that shows heroics are easy or Death Knights are just OP :\

Originally Posted by Pyskato

I can't tell if that shows heroics are easy or Death Knights are just OP :\

All it shows is that that particular DK is incredibly good, you wont see every single DK going in and doing that now, there is not that many that can do what he is doing, so no heroics are not to easy and DK's are not hilariously OP(no I dont play a DK).

Originally Posted by Hoosiermama

So a dragon shouldn't have a dragon's skeleton?

The big bad boss of the entire expansion should get a bit more love and be more unique is what people are saying. He's a corrupted monstrosity terrorizing the entire world for Old God's sakes!

Holy crap, it's a fire krogan!

I think whoever edits nerfnow's work needs to be fired.

Originally Posted by Srg56

As a individual who knows almost nothing about making games, i'm curious how hard,(on a scale from 1 to 10) compared to just slapping on a new skin making a new "skeleton" for new mobs is.

No you see....thats the problem. You're calling it a skin. A skin is a texture. Its like wallpaper but for 3D models. If that was a reskin it'd still have the wings of the original doomguard model. Its a new model with a reused skeleton. Making a new skeleton is painful work. Its like making a claymation model and sticking a wire skeleton inside. Then you have to mark the places where the skeleton can bend, and how far it can bend, then you have to make the animations and my gawd does that suck. Its the worst part ever. Ever made a Flash animation and know about keyframes? Its basically like that, but they have to animate it and make it look nice and realistic rather than a crappy 2d flash animation. Then they have to do that like 20 times for every emote. And finally after like a 1 or 2 weeks they've finally finished a single new model/skeleton/animations/sound effects. ONE enemy wasted a week plus. Ooor they can just create a model. Honestly sculpting the model is enough work as it is and its perfectly fine that they don't make new skeletons every time.

On another note. The difference between a reskin and a remodel.

Wolf Model:


This a basic wolf model. And this below is a RESKIN...



To make a new skin they merely have to change the tint of the current texture. Easy stuff.

A entirely new and different model with the same skeleton (which every one keeps calling a "reskin") would be a fox:



It has the same skeleton as a wolf, but they had to sculpt the model AND make an entirely new skin from scratch. This right here is NOT a reskin. A reskin would be one of the two wolf examples. Same model with a slightly altered skin.

gj now nerf the class

Originally Posted by Exera

All it shows is that that particular DK is incredibly good, you wont see every single DK going in and doing that now, there is not that many that can do what he is doing, so no heroics are not to easy and DK's are not hilariously OP(no I dont play a DK).

I disagree I'm quite sure I could do that and in no way do I feel that makes me amazing. The fail here is that in all these solo videos there has been raid buffs/buffs from other classes which completely ruins the entire aspect of going "solo" against a boss. Any DK that is somewhat intelligent can solo the majority of these bosses. I can't think of any heroic boss that would be terribly hard to solo and those two together is much more like 1.5 bosses instead of 2. Impressive to me would be the guy at the end of BRC and Steelbender together. That I'd give a good clap for.

Last but not least Blood Shields while in Unholy pres. These solos are going to be a lot harder post 4.1 I'd like to see them reattempted after the patch.

Still waiting for the solo LK kill Raegwyn!

New model is great. Now if the mods would just insta-banhammer all the people who only post to (incorrectly) call everything a reskin.

Those textures seem more like different types of summoned adds than trash mobs. What I expect when I see them is adds with different abilities being randomly called into Boss fight.

About Daily Blink, I have seem lots of tanks like that, thinking their job is pull, and just that. Healer have to make him immortal, and Damage Dealers have to make enemies dead. But Healers are few that don't have any idea of their work. Depressing is the fact that most DPS think that way. It's less responsibility. No, it's not.