Paladin - Censure Hotfix Incoming

Originally Posted by Sonaxiano

Indeed to redesign. All the Damage from a paladin is in the burst, and when the burst is over they are done. Maybe spread some of the damage. Buff CS and nerf hammer a little maybe.

Imho they should nerf CS a bit and make the CD on it 2 sec, to give pally's a steady flow of holy power. But this might get OP with zealotry.

Originally Posted by Noblia

As a shaman thats been playing the same shaman since open beta(yes I am aware they erased us but I made the same shaman once the game went live) I respectfully disagree!

Keep clamoring for some freaking justice Shamans, god knows we deserve a lot better than this crap.

I'm seriously fed up with the off-topic shaman whine on the forums. Paragon killed Raggy HC? No shamans in raid this proves everything QQ. Paladin received a buff? Why you no buff Shaman?! Nike plans to release "Back to the Future 2" shoes? Yes but my Shaman does bad in PvE!

Reroll or take it to the official forums. WE KNOW your specs are not the most viable and yet WE can not fix your problems. But the complaining does get old..

to all the shamans whining in paladin's forum GTFO, shamans can do pretty well in all the three specs, not the best but not the worst too, so l2p it before coming here writing shit, shut up and go QQing in your forum.
as a paladin i appreciate this buff but this doesn't fix the real problem of the spec imho, too many empty gcd, playing pala sometimes is simply boring and cd dependant to feel really challenging.
i hope in the next xpac blizz will fix this, i'm playing paladin only because of my love for the class but the gameplay of ret atm is under the other classes
let's hope for the best and YAY for all the paladins!! XD

So, this means protection paladins will also benefit from the increase? or is it bound to a certain (ret) Glyph or (ret) Talent?

The randomness is whats annoying, sometimes you get 4 procs in a row and at other times you can go for a minute without any.

Yay for our reti pala getting mabe 1k increase to his dps overall (not including procs... the bane of it all)

Originally Posted by Edriel

Lol blizzard buffing ret while forever ignoring enhance.

L2P enhance, I haven't seen many enhance on my server below 22k dps. While most ret paladins aren't even at 20k dps.

Hold on to your "halleluja's" for some time fellow retribution paladins, last time i checked Censure only did 4-5% of my overall damage on a boss. 40% increased damage isn't going to do shit for us on such a shit part of our damage, kinda "funny" that the paladin community and the raiding community has said for months now that retribution isn't worth it's spot and it's only now that blizzard understands it...

FML i got forced to reroll prot because of blizzards ignorance...

---------- Post added 2011-09-10 at 09:51 AM ----------

Originally Posted by Fraza

I'm seriously fed up with the off-topic shaman whine on the forums. Paragon killed Raggy HC? No shamans in raid this proves everything QQ. Paladin received a buff? Why you no buff Shaman?! Nike plans to release "Back to the Future 2" shoes? Yes but my Shaman does bad in PvE!

Reroll or take it to the official forums. WE KNOW your specs are not the most viable and yet WE can not fix your problems. But the complaining does get old..

Main issue with dps paladins is that if we're bad and asked to change spec we can't dps anymore. Shamans have both elemental and enh, after the recent buff elemental shamans are doing quite well enh shaman aren't quite so good but they can change spec and not lose their spot but retribution paladins have been asked to reroll class or lose their dps spot in the guild... as i did, forced to tank or gtfo hurts, I'd gladly pay 600k gold to play holy dps if it was possible tanking is NOT fun.

Originally Posted by Andjalis

Guys paladins are fine L2P. They got lots of viable specs. It is beyond my imagination why blizzard haven't done anything about mages yet. I mean those 70 k deepfreezes without the damn legendary staff is insane! Mages are completely ruining PvP, and what does blizzard do? NOTHING!

You realise that Deep Freeze doesn't do any damage to players, right?

Keep it OT, and stop whining.

Took their time to realize that ret's dps were too low. Too bad I quit already due to being fed up of ret being changed/screwed over constantly.

The one and only ret pally in our guild will be happy, I guess. Most of us who played paladin rolled other classes because we were fed up with the roller coaster changes. Still, nice enough buff, I suppose.

I did some calculation base on my last encounter with h shannox doing 31k dps, with this new buff i will be whipping additional 931.3 dps.

"Best OP" buff ever! (as many claim)

Originally Posted by Proudfoot

WTH do you get your data? Ret is sitting middle of the pack right now, this buff isn't going to change much, but it's nice.

Enhancement is middle of the pack too, but could use some serious attention to AOE.

I don't know if you're trolling or what... Frost DPS is WAY behind other specs.

Source - http://raidbots.com/dpsbot/Overall_D...14/30/default/

Stop your trolling please. Specs under ret paladin are:
1. Enchancement shaman. Those shammys who don't like their dps respec into elem.
2. Assasination rogue. Those rogues who don't like their dps respec into combat.
3. Arms warrior. Those warriors who don't like their dps respec into fury.
4. Unholy DK. Those DKs who don't like their dps respec into frost.
5. Survival hunter. Those hunters who don't like their dps respec into marksmanship.
6. Destruction warlock. Those warlocks who don't like their dps respec into affliction or demonology.
7. Subtlety rogue. Those rogues who don't like their dps respec into combat.
8. Fire mage. Those mages who don't like their dps respec into arcane.
9. Beast mastery hunter. Those hunters who don't like their dps respec into marksmanship.
10. Frost mage. Those mages who don't like their dps respec into arcane.

So, which dps spec should ret paladins choose when they don't like their dps?

Congrats on the buff retris.

Now take a look at Holy Priests please.

http://raidbots.com/dpsbot/Spec_Scor...mples/#1u00000

Down to 7,7% of total healing spots in raids, how surprising.

Originally Posted by Fraza

I'm seriously fed up with the off-topic shaman whine on the forums. Paragon killed Raggy HC? No shamans in raid this proves everything QQ. Paladin received a buff? Why you no buff Shaman?! Nike plans to release "Back to the Future 2" shoes? Yes but my Shaman does bad in PvE!

Reroll or take it to the official forums. WE KNOW your specs are not the most viable and yet WE can not fix your problems. But the complaining does get old..

this x100000000000000000000. so tired of seeing OT rage when one class gets a little attention.

Originally Posted by kittenboots

this x100000000000000000000. so tired of seeing OT rage when one class gets a little attention.

Spoken like a true Restoration Druid. I know why you're happy with the situation.

Originally Posted by Illitti

Spoken like a true Restoration Druid. I know why you're happy with the situation.

yes because i was totally like "yeah man shamans are fine they QQ too much! i'm glad they're where they are or they would threaten me as a druid!" in my post. those are the words i said, absolutely. thanks for putting words in my mouth. i'm aware of the state of shamans, i have my own 85 shaman that i'm not 100% happy with as well as shaman friends who are unhappy -- i, and many other forum-goers, are just sick of hearing the moaning on every single thread any time any other class gets attention. it's like a broken record -- and it's not just shamans. it applies to anyone that feels the need to rain rage-tears on another class' parade. the best course of action is to try and post on the official forums, be constructive, and hope you're heard.

thanks for the unnecessary venom.

well... I was fine, but thanks anyway I guess :3

Originally Posted by zsent

Call me a noob but wtf is Censure damage

The DoT from Seal of Truth

Buff rend goddamnit :<.