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Originally Posted by Megara

But TBC was very difficult and the world first race was interesting.

Wait a minute, Nihilum cleared all of Black Temple on day 1. My bad.

Stop the whining.

This. The bleeding edge always gobbled up content at a ridiculous pace. The fact the PTR is so easily available to them means they spend no time at all practicing these fights - often with a lower item level then their real characters actually have! Thus they blast through it. No suprises there.

The rest of us? Yeah, we're going to struggle. A lot. The people complaining at NOT the ones actually doing the things they are complaining about (and often don't even raid or play WoW).

Its like saying "Some people can run 100 meters in under 10 seconds, therefore athletics is a joke."

I really wish MMO-Champion would stop advertising premium features of Ask Mr Robot.

Barthilas represent for 25H!

Originally Posted by Farora

You really think they just spent 12 hours to get to this point? Cute.

Multiple alt raids every week, heavy PTR raiding, countless hours of farming, setting aside their job/school for a couple of weeks (if they have any) and so on.

Have you figured that is, for most of the top raiding guilds, their jobs? They don't have to set aside social life, or anything else. That is not for fun, that is how they work, is how they get their money. That is why these guys spend hours and hours, wiping with every guild member in PTR, in one fight, to let everyone get ready when this goes live...
If you receive money to do that, you wouldn't spend 12 hours per day (during at least the last 2 months), just learning a fight?

Originally Posted by Aesahaettr

Once again, people who haven't cleared 9/14 heroic are complaining that things are too easy.

/sigh.

This. Bleeding Edge raiders are bleeding edge for a reason.

Originally Posted by Posokhov

The only joke is the difficulty of the content. I'm pretty sure Blizzard made Flex about as hard as old LFR. New normal mode is what Flex SHOULD have been. The first 4 bosses in heroic are laughably easy, and the rest don't seem to be much harder. I guess when you balance around the lowest common denominator, you wind up with bad content. If you struggle against Skyrim on the hardest difficulty, you'd probably struggle on heroic. If you have no problems beating Skyrim on the highest difficult, you're more than capable of having heroic content cleared this month. Yes, it is that easy.

Stop the damn complaining, if they'd balance the content for those 20 guilds who raid 24/7 it would be an economical suicide, it's simple as that, those guilds are not the de-facto standard of this game, they are an anomaly, there's 500 mediocre guilds to 1 hardcore guild, realize that and then understand why they can't make the raids as hard as hell may it be LFR/FLEX/Normal or Heroic.

fuck this normal mode content i outgear is too easy

fuck wow top tier guilds clear 9 hcs in one night we are totally as good as they are, this tier must be a joke

no one had any time to practice any of this shit on the ptr or anything

nevermind the fact that we probably havent even cleared normal yet

if you dnt wanna see those premium ads use flashblock or something typical big companys like curse to push premium shit on people seriously

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so the conquest thing atm in game u can get 28k does that mean its a bug and we can only cap at for 2200 to get any credit

The only disconcerting thing is the quantity of content being cleared on day one. Blood Legion took 2 days to get to 6/12 HC in ToT iirc. Even if you were to try to extrapolate that to other guilds, you'll have the top ~300 clearing this content within 2 lockouts depending on their level of preparedness. That's a large amount of the progression player base clearing a large portion of content. I guess I'll pvp for 5 months after HC Garrosh? Maybe Final Fantasy...

Exorsus and envy 8/14 already.
Hoping for Russia this time.

And paragon are back to their old name O.o, when did it happen? 6/14 btw.

Well as old server first raider..... I see this boring nowadays
I bet this will be full clear by end of reset.... Disappointing.

Not sure why people still get shocked that people, who basically spend enough time on progression raiding for it to consume the same amount of time as a second job, progresses quickly in heroic raiding. :O With their time-honed skills no less, given the age of the game. It's impressive but hardly surprising

"Over in the 10 player difficulty"
10 player is a raid size, not a difficulty setting.

who cares about how far in the PAID players get, considering they spend the last 4 months playing on heroics on the PTR.
it is not far, not does anyone care about those guilds... most guilds havent even killed Garrosh yet. wait until 50% of guilds have killed Garrosh, then produce these results.

You guys are clueless. These raiders do not make a living purely off playing wow (maybe a couple of exceptions, they do more than just raid to be in that position though). They use annual leave hours and sick days.

I don't know why the idea of people using their work leave to do something they enjoy is so abhorrent to people.

No one gets paid raiding in the top guilds.

Why more Horde Guilds have more progress then Ally guilds, Im just curious paying attention to the "top 10" list of guilds, there are more Horde then Ally guilds with more progress. Is this related to something? Horde has better racials towards pve perhaps?

Nevermind that Method cleared 6/12 the first night of ToT Heroic. OBVIOUSLY SoO is gimped, unsubbing wowsux.

Originally Posted by ElvenAvenger

Why more Horde Guilds have more progress then Ally guilds, Im just curious paying attention to the "top 10" list of guilds, there are more Horde then Ally guilds with more progress. Is this related to something? Horde has better racials towards pve perhaps?

You got it. The racial benefit isn't huge, but top end guilds will take any advantage they can get.

Damn. I would be happy with just finding a guild that does normal raids. Seems all the ones on my server are always full or you have to wait on the bench till one of their players doesn't show up on raid night. Grats to them. I'm sure they'll clear it before Tuesday.