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Blizzcon - Engineering Panel
While we don't have the Blizzcon schedule just yet, we now know there will be an engineering panel this year! We rarely hear official things about engineering outside of the very rare Engineer's Workshop blog post, so this should be a nice opportunity for players interested in the technical aspects of the game to get some more information!



Patch 6.2.2 Hotfixes - The Frozen Halls
It seems that most of the loot from Pit of Saron and some of The Frozen Halls zone drops had their sell price reduced by 90%, along with the removal of sockets (but not the socket bonus) from some items like Polished Mirror Helm.

Level Type Slot Name
219NeckNeck Painfully Sharp Choker
219FingerFinger Purloined Wedding Ring
219ClothFeet Ice-Steeped Sandals
219ClothWrists Wristguards of Subterranean Moss
219BackBack Cloak of the Fallen Cardinal
219ClothChest Palebone Robes
219ClothLegs Rimewoven Silks
219LeatherWaist Flayer's Black Belt
219LeatherLegs Shaggy Wyrmleather Leggings
219MailHead Polished Mirror Helm
219MailChest Shroud of Rime
219MailLegs Black Dragonskin Breeches
219MailHead Horns of the Spurned Val'kyr
219MailWaist Scabrous Zombie Leather Belt
219MailWrists Gondria's Spectral Bracer
219PlateChest Scourgelord's Frigid Chestplate
219PlateHead Skeleton Lord's Cranium
219PlateWaist Bent Gold Belt
219ShieldOff Hand Protector of Frigid Souls
219GunRanged Rimebane Rifle
219Two-handed MaceTwo Hand Garfrost's Two-Ton Hammer
219StaffTwo Hand Unspeakable Secret
219DaggerOne Hand Krick's Beetle Stabber
219PlateWaist Titanium Links of Lore
219ClothShoulders Mantle of Tattered Feathers
219PlateHands Plated Grips of Korth'azz
219WandRanged Coffin Nail


Blue Tweets
Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
True story... That reminds me of the fun story of how Rawr's Optimizer's progress bar worked. Ask me some time.(Celestalon)
So, how did the Rawr Optimizer progress bar work?
Rawr's Optimizer used a genetic algorithm (mostly the handiwork of to search for potential improvements. That... (Celestalon)
...means that it wasn't an exhaustive search, it was just really good at searching the likely places. But that also means... (Celestalon)
...that it could virtually infinitely keep searching less and less likely options. Solution was to let user specify... (Celestalon)
...a desired 'thoroughness', which controlled how long it'd keep looking if it hadn't found an improvement in a while. The... (Celestalon)
...progress bar was really a timer of how long it'd been since it found an improvement, except never going backward. That's it. (Celestalon)

Ghostcrawler Tweets
Ghostcrawler still occasionally talks about WoW. Remember that he no longer works for or speaks for Blizzard.
Originally Posted by MMO-Champion
the problem as I see it, blizzard made design choices based on how they think we SHOULD play vs how we WANT to play.
It's tough. The two at the end of the day aren't all that different. But it's not as is if all players speak with one voice. (OccupyGStreet)
And at times players think they're perfectly happy with what they have but get excited about something they didn't expect. (OccupyGStreet)

Blaming your customers for your bad product is a terrible, terrible way to do business.
I think the point is more that communicating with players (esp. angry ones) isn't really the product. (OccupyGStreet)
Engaging with players can be important and valuable but at the end of the day that isn't the game. (OccupyGStreet)
And yet the developer narrative holds the players at fault for the performance of the actual product.
Product failures are always the fault of the product team. I don't hear any blaming the customer here. (OccupyGStreet)



Dark Legacy Comics #507 - Scapegoat
DLC #507 has been released.

This article was originally published in forum thread: Blizzcon - Engineering Panel, Item Hotfixes, Tweets, DLC #507 started by chaud View original post
Published on 2015-10-05 02:42 AM
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  1. bassfu's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by shogunit3 View Post
    Wow was that "hotfix" necessary?
    Not at all.
  1. Nir's Avatar
    I guess the people who complain here were the botters.
    lol
  1. Nerraw's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by nirv View Post
    Why would anyone want to apply to be a mod here? So they can censor, ban, and delete more comments on this crappy forum? What a joke. Screw all forum moderators.
    You don't feel comments like this are reason enough for mods in the first place?
  1. Shigma's Avatar
    What they can't understand, is that when they nerf this kind of stuff for botters, they "kill" fun ways of getting gold, thus forcing some people to botting.

    I don't play anymore, but i will be frank here. When i did, i had tons of fun doing old raids with all my alts and getting some gold ( It wasn't that much really either! ), and then, they started to nerf all this, which i don't get it. It took time and effort some times (Heck, it was less profiting to even questing in most of the cases ), so when i got the items i wanted in those places, i didn't have any more reasons to run those places i enjoyed again.

    I really enjoyed those runs, so when i stopped doing them, i got really bored, and the "official" gold making places ( Besides AH ), where toooo damn B O O O R I N G to me, so once the fun killed, i started botting, because let's be real, fuck "virtual working for gold". As i said, i don't play anymore (And not because i'm banned, heh... ), so sorry if im mentioning this, but for me it was the effect of this kind of stuid nerfs (Believe it or not, i had friends farming here for Quel'Derar and they alway said, that the yield they got farming that somewhat made up for the big grind it was. Go guess now).

    When they started to nerf the fun everywhere on this game, they killed a good piece of what wow was. And i was here since the begining for years and years. They should take some effort and guess some other ways to fix this kind of issues before killing the fun.

    -Note : I don't complain exactly because of this exact "fix", i complain about this kind of "fixes" (For me it was nerfing old raids gold and some other things)
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