Gamescom Legion Stream - Patch 7.1 Return to Karazhan
Slootbag streamed from Gamescom today with WatcherDev. Karazhan is coming back as a dungeon in Patch 7.1!




Patch 7.1 - Return to Karazhan
  • Karazhan is coming back as a large five player dungeon with all nine bosses.
  • The old Karazhan will still exist, you can still go and farm it for things.
  • There will also be a small additional raid between The Emerald Nightmare and The Nighthold that wraps up the Stormheim story.
  • Patch 7.1 will also have outdoor content associated with Suramar that pushes forward the Nightfallen story.
  • Patch 7.1 is coming to the PTR right after Legion launches!
  • Encounters have been play tested internally, it is good to go.

Game Development
  • There was a period where the team focused on faster expansions, sacrificing things that they shouldn't have. This made the experience worse.
  • The focus going forward is a steady stream of content.
  • Priority #1 is making sure that you don't run out of things to do.
  • The team is never going to rush an expansion, they will be released when they are done.
  • Ensuring there is always content in the live game while working on the expansions is important.
  • Raid tiers should last around 4 to 5 months.
  • This time around there won't be a content drought - "Don't worry, we got you!"
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  1. thilicen's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Gemini Soul View Post
    So 7.1 looks like reused content put out as new content. All the bosses better have updated models at least, if not it will be just a copy/paste of the raid.
    They will be Legion mobs so yeah.
  1. Aeula's Avatar
    Interesting! I generally hate dungeons, but I might try and make some friends to run this on non-mythic plus.
  1. thilicen's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Absintheminded View Post
    What the hell?! Is this a joke? It's not a content patch if it's content we already have... I would have bet money that Kara would have been different somehow. This is stupid.
    When did you have a demon-filled Kara before?
  1. Kaleredar's Avatar
    Content droughts don't crop up at the beginning of expansions, they crop up at the end...


    Cataclysm had three raids out the gate with a bunch of challenging heroic dungeons, which was then followed up by the two troll heroics and then firelands shortly afterwards. But then Dragon Soul slogged on forever.

    Mists of Pandaria started with three raids as well and had a bunch of daily quest activities to do, followed by a massive Throne of Thunder patch with even more dailies. And then the patch that was just the barrens event and Siege of Orgrimmar dragged on forever.


    Far be it from me to tell Blizzard how to plan their content, but I'd think it'd always do them well to err on the side of delaying the initial content patches after launch (especially because they can hotfix in balance changes now) to help meter out the inevitable content droughts at the end of the expansion.

    The perfect example is Ulduar. Ulduar was only out for 14 weeks when ToC was released. Not only did lots of people not get to progress adequately in Ulduar, but that truncated amount of time both extended the amount of time we were in TOC AND in ICC. Now, luckily, ICC was a well recieved raid and everyone loved the Lich king, but the point still stands.
  1. lukoil's Avatar
    What the hell?! Is this a joke? It's not a content patch if it's content we already have... I would have bet money that Kara would have been different somehow. This is stupid.
    hmmm you have access to 7.1 ptr?
  1. Ottius's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by DesoPL View Post
    We got an Poland word when we feel an hype.
    Just so you know, mate, you use "an" wrong.

    Quote Originally Posted by lukoil View Post
    hmmm you have access to 7.1 ptr?
    What does this have to do with what he said?
  1. Stealthyjake's Avatar
    Please god make a high res Fiery Warhorse mount, still my favourite ground mount.
  1. Elim Garak's Avatar
    With each extra Legion copy that you buy you reduce the future content drought. Pinky promise.
  1. Queen of Hamsters's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by ElDoorO View Post
    It's not something one aspires to be as much as it is something that reality forces you to become. They've let us down a lot, you certainly have to admit that, yes?
    They've done many wrongs, but people seem to forget the other expansions (MoP in particular) because they can't see further than beyond their noses (WoD).

    I'm all for being skeptical, but people on MMO-C are not displaying a HEALTHY dose of skepticism. More like a mob mentality to latch onto anything negative (or even just POSSIBLY negative) and cirklejerk around it.
  1. Justpassing's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Mokoshne View Post
    Fool us once, shame on us. Fool us twice, shame on us. fool us three times... damnit.
    Yeah, this is like the fifth time?
  1. Chuckadoodle's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by rogoth View Post
    "Karazhan will be coming back as a large dungeon, all nine bosses" so much for your theory of "not the same bosses"
    We shall see, there were 12 bosses in the Original Kara with some being "optional"
  1. darkwarrior42's Avatar
    "All nine bosses".... assuming they're the same as the old bosses, I'm guessing Chess, Animal Boss, and Nightbane will be the ones omitted?

    That would leave Attumen (1), Moroes (2), Maiden (3), Opera (4), Curator (5), Illhoof (6), Shade of Aran (7), Netherspite (8), Prince (9).
  1. Eleccybubb's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Justpassing View Post
    Yeah, this is like the fifth time?
    Fourth. Wrath, Cata, MoP and WoD. Vanilla and BC droughts weren't super bad.
  1. Ottius's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Gemini Soul View Post
    So 7.1 looks like reused content put out as new content. All the bosses better have updated models at least, if not it will be just a copy/paste of the raid.
    Would you say Draenor is a copy/paste of Outland?
  1. Frozenbeef's Avatar
    reminds me a bit of a wildstar trailer tbh :S
  1. thilicen's Avatar
    Are people seriously not able to figure out that the mobs and bosses won't be the same from that trailer?
  1. Slashnox's Avatar
    Hype hype hype hype
  1. Tisane's Avatar
    At least it's more than the selfie camera!
  1. Belloc's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Sting View Post
    It's the same hollow promise every tier, every expansion.
    They didn't promise anything. They said that it's important, which implies that they're going to try to make sure it's not a problem.

    If you have a problem with content droughts, you are more than welcome to cancel your sub until the next content arrives. You would hardly be alone in doing so.
  1. Shudder's Avatar
    After watching the hilarious fiasco with Sean Murray flat out lying to people and No Man's Sky being a train wreck it makes me smile to come back on here and see the Blizz devs keeping up. I look forward to these lies every 2 years, it fills my heart.

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