Patch 7.2 PTR - Build 23530
Build 23530 will be deployed to the PTR realms soon.


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Achievement Changes
Originally Posted by MMO-Champion
Appearances
Collections

Honor
Player vs. Player

Legion
Player vs. Player

Reputation

Legion Dungeon
Dungeons & Raids

Legion Raid
Dungeons & Raids
  • Fel Turkey! (New) Destroy 30 Infernal Spikes with Shattering Stars and then defeat Goroth in Tomb of Sargeras on Normal difficulty or higher. 10 points.
  • Grand Fin-ale (New) Summon Elder Murk-Eye using a Mrgrglhjorn, then defeat him and Harjatan the Bludger on Normal difficulty or higher.
  • Grin and Bare It (New) Defeat the Demonic Inquisition while every party member is at maximum Torment in Tomb of Sargeras on Normal difficulty or higher. 10 points.



Spell Changes
Originally Posted by MMO-Champion
Mounts
  • Highlord's Vigilant Charger Name changed from "Highlord's Vigilent Charger" to "Highlord's Vigilant Charger". Summons and dismisses your Highlord's Vigilent Vigilant Charger. This is a flying mount. 1.5 sec cast.

Death Knight (Forums, Talent Calculator, PvP Talent Calculator, Artifact Calculator)
PvP Talents
  • Reanimation Reanimates a nearby corpse, summoning a zombie with 5 health for 20 sec to slowly move torwards towards your target. If it reaches your target, it explodes stunning all enemies within 5 yards for 3 sec and dealing 10% of enemies health in Shadow damage. Unholy DeathKnight - Tier 5 PvP Talent. 1 Runes. 40 yd range. Instant.

Druid (Forums, Talent Calculator, PvP Talent Calculator, Artifact Calculator)
Feral
  • Infected Wounds Rake causes an Infected Wound in the target, reducing the target's movement speed by 30% 50% for 12 sec. Druid - Feral Spec.
  • Rake (Feral) Reduces the target's movement speed by 30% for 12 sec. 50% for 12 sec.

Monk (Forums, Talent Calculator, PvP Talent Calculator, Artifact Calculator)
PvP Talents
  • Heavy-Handed Strikes Your first strike of Fists of Fury knocks targets to the ground, stunning them for 4 3 sec. Fists of Fury has a 5 yard increased range. Windwalker Monk - Tier 5 PvP Talent.

Priest (Forums, Talent Calculator, PvP Talent Calculator, Artifact Calculator)
  • Light of T'uure Applies Light of the Naaru to the target, healing for [ 1 + 400% of Spell Power ] and increasing all healing you do your healing done to that target by 25% for 10 sec. Maximum 2 charges. Artifact. 40 yd range. Instant.

Rogue (Forums, Talent Calculator, PvP Talent Calculator, Artifact Calculator)
Assassination
  • Crippling Poison Coats your weapons with a Non-Lethal Poison that lasts for 60 min. Each strike has a 50% chance to poison the enemy, slowing movement speed by 30% 50% for 12 sec. Rogue - Assassination Spec. 1.5 sec cast.

Outlaw
  • Pistol Shot Draw a concealed pistol and fire a quick shot at an enemy, dealing [ 165% of AP ] Physical damage and reducing movement speed by 30% 50% for 6 sec. Awards 1 combo points. Rogue - Outlaw Spec. 40 Energy. 20 yd range. Instant.

Subtlety
  • Nightblade Finishing move that infects the target with shadowy energy, dealing Shadow damage over time and causing attacks against the target to reduce movement speed by 30% 50% for 8 sec. Lasts longer per combo point. 1 point : [ 4 + 552% of AP ] over 8 sec 2 points: [ 5 + 690% of AP ] over 10 sec 3 points: [ 6 + 828% of AP ] over 12 sec 4 points: [ 7 + 966% of AP ] over 14 sec 5 points: [ 8 + 1,104% of AP ] over 16 sec Rogue - Subtlety Spec. 25 Energy. Melee range. Instant.

Shaman (Forums, Talent Calculator, PvP Talent Calculator, Artifact Calculator)
PvP Talents
  • Spirit Link You link yourself and two closest allies within 15 yards together. When linked targets take damage, 50% is distributed among the other linked allies. Linked targets receive 100% increased healing from your Chain Heal and Healing Rain. Lasts for 30 20 sec. Limited to 3 targets. Restoration Shaman - Tier 5 PvP Talent. 15% 35% of Base Mana. 15 yd range. Instant.

Item Effects
  • 7.2 Broken Shore - Buildings - Command Center - Buff - Follower Token - Tracking Quest (New) Instant.
  • Absorb Ancient Knowledge (New) Empower the book to find the lost knowledge of the ancients. Melee range. 10 sec cast (Channeled).
  • Arcane Tablet of Falanaar Increase reputation with the Nightfallen by 100. 0.8 sec cast. up to Exalted reputation. 0.8 sec cast.
  • Arsenal: Cataclysmic Gladiator's Weapons (New) Collect the appearances of the Cataclysmic Gladiator's weapons set. Transmog Set. Instant.
  • Arsenal: Deadly Gladiator's Weapons (New) Collect the appearances of the Deadly Gladiator's weapons set. Transmog Set. Instant.
  • Arsenal: Furious Gladiator's Weapons (New) Collect the appearances of the Furious Gladiator's weapons set. Transmog Set. Instant.
  • Arsenal: Hateful Gladiator's Weapons (New) Collect the appearances of the Hateful Gladiator's weapons set. Transmog Set. Instant.
  • Arsenal: Relentless Gladiator's Weapons (New) Collect the appearances of the Relentless Gladiator's weapons set. Transmog Set. Instant.
  • Arsenal: Ruthless Gladiator's Weapons (New) Collect the appearances of the Ruthless Gladiator's weapons set. Transmog Set. Instant.
  • Arsenal: Vicious Gladiator's Weapons (New) Collect the appearances of the Vicious Gladiator's weapons set. Transmog Set. Instant.
  • Arsenal: Wrathful Gladiator's Weapons (New) Collect the appearances of the Wrathful Gladiator's weapons set. Transmog Set. Instant.
  • Bloodstrike Commands the Sentinar Sentinax to fire a Bloodstrike at your current location, unearthing Blood of Sargeras. Deals 150% of maximum health as Chaos damage. 2 sec cast.
  • Brew Explosion 40 yd range. 1.5 sec cast.5 sec cooldown.
  • Burst of Experience (New) Provides a significant increase to player experience. Instant.
  • Captured Spirit of the Father of Owls The spirit of the owl hoots softly. 10 yd range. 2.9 sec cast. 6 sec cooldown.
  • Carnage Portal Tell the Sentinar Sentinax to summon demonic portals in this area. 2 sec cast.
  • Court of Farondis Insignia Grants 1,500 reputation with the Court of Farondis. Instant. up to Exalted reputation. Instant.
  • Domination Portal Tell the Sentinar Sentinax to summon demonic portals in this area. 2 sec cast.
  • Dreamweaver Insignia Grants 1,500 reputation with the Dreamweavers. Instant. up to Exalted reputation. Instant.
  • Elite Pennant Name changed from "Honorable Pennant" to "Elite Pennant".
  • Empowering (New) Grants 1 Artifact Power to your currently equipped Artifact. 2 sec cast.
  • Empowering (New) Grants 1 Artifact Power to your currently equipped Artifact. 2 sec cast.
  • Empowering (New) Grants 1 Artifact Power to your currently equipped Artifact. 2 sec cast.
  • Empowering (New) Grants 1 Artifact Power to your currently equipped Artifact. 2 sec cast.
  • Empowering (New) Grants 1 Artifact Power to your currently equipped Artifact. 2 sec cast.
  • Empowering (New) Grants 1 Artifact Power to your currently equipped Artifact. 2 sec cast.
  • Empowering (New) Grants 1 Artifact Power to your currently equipped Artifact. 2 sec cast.
  • Empowering (New) Grants 1 Artifact Power to your currently equipped Artifact. 2 sec cast.
  • Empowering (New) Grants 1 Artifact Power to your currently equipped Artifact. 2 sec cast.
  • Empowering (New) Grants 1,000 Artifact Power to your currently equipped Artifact. 2 sec cast.
  • Empowering (New) Grants 750 Artifact Power to your currently equipped Artifact. 2 sec cast.
  • Empowering (New) Grants 1 Artifact Power to your currently equipped Artifact. 2 sec cast.
  • Empowering (New) Grants 1 Artifact Power to your currently equipped Artifact. 2 sec cast.
  • Empowering (New) Grants 1 Artifact Power to your currently equipped Artifact. 2 sec cast.
  • Engineering Portal Tell the Sentinar Sentinax to summon demonic portals in this area. 2 sec cast.
  • Ensemble: Fearless Combatant's Cloth Armor Name changed from "Ensemble: Fearless Combatant's Satin Armor" to "Ensemble: Fearless Combatant's Cloth Armor". Collect the appearances of the Fearless Combatant's Satin armor set. Instant. Fearless appearances of the Legion Season 1 and 2 Combatant's Cloth armor set. Instant.
  • Ensemble: Fearless Combatant's Cloth Armor Name changed from "Ensemble: Fearless Combatant's Satin Armor" to "Ensemble: Fearless Combatant's Cloth Armor". Collect the appearances of the Fearless Combatant's Satin armor set. Instant. Fearless appearances of the Legion Season 1 and 2 Combatant's Cloth armor set. Instant.
  • Ensemble: Fearless Combatant's Leather Armor Collect the appearances of the Fearless Combatant's Leather armor set. Instant. Fearless appearances of the Legion Season 1 and 2 Combatant's Cloth armor set. Instant.
  • Ensemble: Fearless Combatant's Leather Armor Collect the appearances of the Fearless Combatant's Leather armor set. Instant. Fearless appearances of the Legion Season 1 and 2 Combatant's Cloth armor set. Instant.
  • Ensemble: Fearless Combatant's Mail Armor Name changed from "Ensemble: Fearless Combatant's Chain Armor" to "Ensemble: Fearless Combatant's Mail Armor". Collect the appearances of the Fearless Combatant's Chain armor set. Instant. Fearless appearances of the Legion Season 1 and 2 Combatant's Leather armor set. Instant.
  • Ensemble: Fearless Combatant's Mail Armor Name changed from "Ensemble: Fearless Combatant's Chain Armor" to "Ensemble: Fearless Combatant's Mail Armor". Collect the appearances of the Fearless Combatant's Chain armor set. Instant. Fearless appearances of the Legion Season 1 and 2 Combatant's Mail armor set. Instant.
  • Ensemble: Fearless Combatant's Plate Set Collect the appearances of the Fearless Fearless appearances of the Legion Season 1 and 2 Combatant's Plate armor set. Instant.
  • Ensemble: Fearless Combatant's Plate Set Collect the appearances of the Fearless Fearless appearances of the Legion Season 1 and 2 Combatant's Plate armor set. Instant.
  • Fel Growth Commands the Sentinar Sentinax to fire a Fel Seed at your current location, causing starlight roses to rapidly grow. 2 sec cast.
  • Firestorm Portal Tell the Sentinar Sentinax to summon demonic portals in this area. 2 sec cast.
  • Greater Carnage Portal Tell the Sentinar Sentinax to empower the demonic portals in this area. 2 sec cast.
  • Greater Domination Portal Tell the Sentinar Sentinax to empower the demonic portals in this area. 2 sec cast.
  • Greater Engineering Portal Tell the Sentinar Sentinax to empower the demonic portals in this area. 2 sec cast.
  • Greater Firestorm Portal Tell the Sentinar Sentinax to empower the demonic portals in this area. 2 sec cast.
  • Greater Torment Portal Tell the Sentinar Sentinax to empower the demonic portals in this area. 2 sec cast.
  • Greater Warbeast Portal Tell the Sentinar Sentinax to empower the demonic portals in this area. 2 sec cast.
  • Hammersmithing Use your Blacksmithing skill to pound the shale into a mighty hammer. 4 sec cast. steel into a mighty hammer. Requires an anvil. 4 sec cast.
  • Hammersmithing Use your Blacksmithing skill to pound the steel into a mighty hammer. 4 sec cast. Requires an anvil. 4 sec cast.
  • Hammersmithing Use your Blacksmithing skill to pound the slag into a mighty hammer. 4 sec cast. steel into a mighty hammer. Requires an anvil. 4 sec cast.
  • Highmountain Tribe Insignia Grants 1,500 reputation with the Highmountain Tribe. Instant. up to Exalted reputation. Instant.
  • Increase Item Level Increases a Champion's item level by 10 levels. Instant. 1.5 sec cooldown. up to level 850. Instant. 1.5 sec cooldown.
  • Increase Item Level Increases a Champion's item level by 5 levels. Instant. 1.5 sec cooldown. up to level 850. Instant. 1.5 sec cooldown.
  • Increase Item Level Increases a Champion's item level by 15 levels. Instant. 1.5 sec cooldown. up to level 850. Instant. 1.5 sec cooldown.
  • Inky Blackness Name changed from "Scroll of Night" to "Inky Blackness". Magically filters your perception of the world. Instant. Darkens the world around you. Instant.
  • Kil'jaeden's Burning Wish Launch a vortex of destruction that seeks your current enemy. When it reaches the target, it explodes, dealing a critical strike to all enemies within 10 yds for 0 Fire damage. 100 80 yd range. Instant. 1.2 min cooldown.
  • Nightfallen Insignia Grants 750 reputation with The Nightfallen. Instant. up to Exalted reputation. Instant.
  • Petrification Commands the Sentinar Sentinax to fire a Petrum beam at your current location, turning everything in the area to felslate. 2 sec cast.
  • Prestigious Pennant Name changed from "Honorable Pennant" to "Prestigious Pennant".
  • Summon An'thyna Tell the Sentinar Sentinax to send a powerful demonic lieutenant to this area. 2 sec cast.
  • Summon Fel Obliterator Tell the Sentinar Sentinax to send a powerful demonic lieutenant to this area. 2 sec cast.
  • Summon General Xillious Tell the Sentinar Sentinax to send a powerful demonic lieutenant to this area. 2 sec cast.
  • Summon Illisthyndria Tell the Sentinar Sentinax to send a powerful demonic lieutenant to this area. 2 sec cast.
  • Summon Skulguloth Tell the Sentinar Sentinax to send a powerful demonic lieutenant to this area. 2 sec cast.
  • Summon Than'otalion Tell the Sentinar Sentinax to send a powerful demonic lieutenant to this area. 2 sec cast.
  • Throw Back (New) Summon an Ancient Vrykul Spirit. You must be near Corbyn in Stormheim. 12-15 yd range. Instant.
  • Throw Back (New) Summon an Enormous Globule. You must be near Keeper Raynae in Val'sharah. 12-15 yd range. Instant.
  • Throw Back (New) Summon the great Magicus. You must be near Sha'leth in Suramar. 12-15 yd range. Instant.
  • Throw Back (New) Summon an Infernal Destroyer. You must be near Impus on the Broken Shore. 12-15 yd range. Instant.
  • Throw Back Toss the mark back into the water Summon a Hatecoil Spirit. You must be near Ilyssia of the Waters in Azsuna. 12-15 yd range. Instant. 1 sec cooldown.
  • Throw Back (New) Summon the spirit of Tarn Riverhorn. You must be near Akule Riverhorn in Highmountain. 12-15 yd range. Instant.
  • Torment Portal Tell the Sentinar Sentinax to summon demonic portals in this area. 2 sec cast.
  • Valarjar Insignia Grants 250 reputation with the Valarjar. Instant. up to Exalted reputation. Instant.
  • Valarjar Insignia Grants 1,500 reputation with the Valarjar. Instant. up to Exalted reputation. Instant.
  • Warbeast Portal Tell the Sentinar Sentinax to summon demonic portals in this area. 2 sec cast.
  • Warden Insignia Grants 1,500 reputation with the Wardens. Instant. up to Exalted reputation. Instant.



Artifact Powers
Originally Posted by MMO-Champion
Death Knight (Forums, Talent Calculator, PvP Talent Calculator, Artifact Calculator)
Blood

Frost

Unholy

Demon Hunter (Forums, Talent Calculator, PvP Talent Calculator, Artifact Calculator)
Havoc

Vengeance

Druid (Forums, Talent Calculator, PvP Talent Calculator, Artifact Calculator)
Balance

Feral

Guardian

Restoration

Hunter (Forums, Talent Calculator, PvP Talent Calculator, Artifact Calculator)
Beast Mastery

Marksmanship

Survival

Mage (Forums, Talent Calculator, PvP Talent Calculator, Artifact Calculator)
Arcane

Fire

Frost

Monk (Forums, Talent Calculator, PvP Talent Calculator, Artifact Calculator)
Brewmaster

Mistweaver

Windwalker

Paladin (Forums, Talent Calculator, PvP Talent Calculator, Artifact Calculator)
Holy

Protection

Retribution

Priest (Forums, Talent Calculator, PvP Talent Calculator, Artifact Calculator)
Discipline

Holy
  • Light of the Conclave (Rank 1) (New) Increases healing done by 10%, damage done by 10%, and Stamina by 25%.
  • Light of T'uure (Rank 1) Applies Light of the Naaru to the target, healing for [ 1 + 400% of Spell Power ] and increasing all healing you do your healing done to that target by 0% for 10 sec. Maximum 2 charges.

Shadow

Rogue (Forums, Talent Calculator, PvP Talent Calculator, Artifact Calculator)
Assassination

Outlaw

Subtlety

Shaman (Forums, Talent Calculator, PvP Talent Calculator, Artifact Calculator)
Elemental

Enhancement

Restoration

Warlock (Forums, Talent Calculator, PvP Talent Calculator, Artifact Calculator)
Affliction

Demonology

Destruction

Warrior (Forums, Talent Calculator, PvP Talent Calculator, Artifact Calculator)
Arms

Fury

Protection



Strings Changes
Originally Posted by MMO-Champion
  • CONTRIBUTION_BUTTON_ONLY_WHEN_UNDER_CONSTRUCTION_TOOLTIP (New) - You can only contribute when the building is under construction
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_TOMBOFSARGERASDUNGEON1 (New) - Hall of the Moon
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_TOMBOFSARGERASDUNGEON2 (New) - Twilight Grove
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_TOMBOFSARGERASDUNGEON3 (New) - The Emerald Archives
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_TOMBOFSARGERASDUNGEON4 (New) - Path of Illumination
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_TOMBOFSARGERASDUNGEON5 (New) - Sacristy of Elune
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_TOMBRAID1 (New) - Chamber of the Moon
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_TOMBRAID2 (New) - Lair of Harjatan
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_TOMBRAID3 (New) - The Abyssal Throne
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_TOMBRAID4 (New) - Terrace of the Moon
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_TOMBRAID5 (New) - The Guardian's Sanctum
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_TOMBRAID6 (New) - Chamber of the Avatar
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_TOMBRAID7 (New) - Felstorm's Breach
  • DUNGEON_FLOOR_TOMBRAID8 (New) - The Twisting Nether
  • FIRST_NUMBER (New) - thousand
  • FOURTH_NUMBER (New) - trillion
  • LFG_LIST_BAD_DESCRIPTION - Offensive Description
  • LFG_LIST_BAD_LEADER_NAME - Offensive Leader Name
  • LFG_LIST_BAD_NAME - Offensive Group Name
  • PARAGON_REPUTATION_TOOLTIP_TEXT - Continue earning reputation with this faction to receive a reward. %s to receive a reward.
  • PLAYER_V_PLAYER_SEASON (New) - Player vs. Player [Legion Season %d]
  • QUEUED_STATUS_IN_PROGRESS - |cff19ff19[In Progress]|r |cff19ff19In Progress|r
  • SECOND_NUMBER (New) - million
  • SPELL_FAILED_CUSTOM_ERROR_331 - The Sentinar The Sentinax is not patrolling this area.
  • SPELL_FAILED_CUSTOM_ERROR_332 - The Sentinar The Sentinax cannot open another portal right now.
  • SPELL_FAILED_CUSTOM_ERROR_333 (New) - You cannot gain additional reputation with this item.
  • SPELL_FAILED_CUSTOM_ERROR_334 (New) - Can't do that while in Ghost Wolf form.
  • SPELL_FAILED_CUSTOM_ERROR_335 (New) - Your supplies are frozen.
  • SPELL_MAX_CHARGES (New) - Max %d Charges
  • SPLASH_LEGION_NEW_7_2_RIGHT_TITLE - Forge Lead the Armies of Legionfall
  • THIRD_NUMBER (New) - billion
This article was originally published in forum thread: Patch 7.2 PTR - Build 23530 started by chaud View original post
Comments 44 Comments
  1. Frolk's Avatar
    Guess we cant save rep tokens to cheese rep when 7.2 hits, welp, more bankspace i guess
  1. mmoc072c03890e's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Frolk View Post
    Guess we cant save rep tokens to cheese rep when 7.2 hits, welp, more bankspace i guess
    Well once you hit Exalted, most seem to become BoA, so just mail them to an alt!
  1. Nathiest's Avatar
    " Templar's Verdict increases the damage of your next Blade of Justice by 10%."

    RIP Divine Hammer I guess you where never a choice.
  1. mmoc9acef442ac's Avatar
    Well , paladin gets worst trait from all dps classes, shitty 10% dmg on next BoJ while other dps specs gets 10% increased dmg and 25% stamina??? LEL
  1. Nightsight's Avatar
    "Floor Thirteen Name changed from "Thirsty for Thirteen" to "Floor Thirteen"."

    hehe
  1. FelPlague's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Chaosprime View Post
    Well once you hit Exalted, most seem to become BoA, so just mail them to an alt!
    not the kirin tor ones : /
    or the nightfallen ones from the withered training
  1. Hyrja's Avatar
    DUNGEON_FLOOR_TOMBRAID8 (New) - The Twisting Nether

    Looks like were gonna kill Kil'Jaeden in the Twisting Nether ?
  1. FelPlague's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Hyrja View Post
    DUNGEON_FLOOR_TOMBRAID8 (New) - The Twisting Nether

    Looks like were gonna kill Kil'Jaeden in the Twisting Nether ?
    except we havent seen the final boss have we yet? they said it was gunna be a 10 boss raid but we only see 9 (just like nightbane in khara) are they possibnly hiding the last boss? (or am i remembering wrong.... i remember there was something missing from their preview, either a boss from the map, or a boss from the list)
  1. Soulfròst's Avatar
    I'm 100% certain they said it's gonna be a 9 boss raid.
  1. Zyky's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Chaosprime View Post
    Well once you hit Exalted, most seem to become BoA, so just mail them to an alt!
    Just feels pretty shitty that they're adding ANOTHER grind into the game.
  1. rcshaggy's Avatar
    Blizzard please update Baine Bloodhoof like he is in the artwork on the loading screen in WoW...
    Will be so awesome, and another build too.

    Hotfixes?
  1. Dracullus's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Zyky View Post
    Just feels pretty shitty that they're adding ANOTHER grind into the game.
    You see, for normal people it's nice that we will get some extra rewards from daily emissary. It's people like you call a grind everything that has no weekly cap, because you have no self control. In the upcoming weeks I expect whines will be about:

    - how all your AP is worthless before 7.2, because you grinded Maw of Souls like crazy
    - how people with 54 trait have only like 2 trait advantage over people with 35 weapon
    - how all new traits cost 18+ million AP (and interesting that so few people understand that exponential grow AP for new traits actually help alts and newcomers)
    - how you have to do 100+ Maw of Souls runs to get paragon 20/20 again
    - how all your AP is worthless before 7.3, because you grinded Maw of Souls like crazy

    I wonder how many patches it must take for tryhards to understand that AP is not a grind, it is progression path for whole expansion and encourage you to do different types of content. While we will enjoy 7.2 content, tryhards will do mythic+ all day, spam forums and vendor rest AP until next patch. We will have fun, they few % more dps few weeks before us and massive burnout.
  1. Rankstar's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by CryotriX View Post
    That's because your content consists on doing LFR and doing Dalaran laps, and mine is competing for realm 1st and keeping within the world first 50 guilds.

    Which was EASY before this endless farming crap. We only raided 4 days, 5 first 2 weeks, and then 1/week when farming, and we were stable in first 50. Now I had to rebuild from scratch just because Blizz ruined it with AP endless grind and legendary RNG, losing me loads and loads of friends and raiders.

    Each action has consequences. Caps are good. End of story. If it doesn't matter to you, it's because you don't run the content we are.
    I agree with the above post, as a hardcore mythic raider hitting 54 traits was a relief, i could relax from the seemingly endless m+ spam at least until 7.2.
  1. ComputerNerd's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Zyky View Post
    Just feels pretty shitty that they're adding ANOTHER grind into the game.
    It is a grind only if you make it that way.
    From my understanding it is simply offering the same caches as the emissary quests, only at a considerably lower rate.

    A grind is something you repeat for a known and predictable reward.
    If you do it for the known and predictable reward, the reputation, the artifact power, etc then you make it into a grind.
    It isn't that inherently.
  1. JIMM-'s Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by CryotriX View Post
    That's because your content consists on doing LFR and doing Dalaran laps, and mine is competing for realm 1st and keeping within the world first 50 guilds.

    Which was EASY before this endless farming crap. We only raided 4 days, 5 first 2 weeks, and then 1/week when farming, and we were stable in first 50. Now I had to rebuild from scratch just because Blizz ruined it with AP endless grind and legendary RNG, losing me loads and loads of friends and raiders.

    Each action has consequences. Caps are good. End of story. If it doesn't matter to you, it's because you don't run the content we are.
    +1, ur post is so true, "its not a grind " -> cucks your character by putting a negative 14.5 % damage aura permanently

    casuals should realise at the rate they play they will not even hit level 54 on a single artifact weapon at the end of xpac even with the help of AK 25, because the grind is still insane even with maxed out AK.
  1. mmoc2469da80bf's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Maaduno View Post
    Well , paladin gets worst trait from all dps classes, shitty 10% dmg on next BoJ while other dps specs gets 10% increased dmg and 25% stamina??? LEL
    Why single out 1 dps spec and give it a disatvantage compared to ALL other spec's ??
    This will not sit well with the majority of ret's !
  1. FelPlague's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Soulfròst View Post
    I'm 100% certain they said it's gonna be a 9 boss raid.
    http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/...20161109221522

    this is whart im looking at, in their art of the raid they only show 8/9 bosses, leaving out the maiden of vigilence

    so thats what i was cxonfused about, announced 9, only showed 8 on the map
  1. Zyky's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by ComputerNerd View Post
    It is a grind only if you make it that way.
    From my understanding it is simply offering the same caches as the emissary quests, only at a considerably lower rate.

    A grind is something you repeat for a known and predictable reward.
    If you do it for the known and predictable reward, the reputation, the artifact power, etc then you make it into a grind.
    It isn't that inherently.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dracullus View Post
    You see, for normal people it's nice that we will get some extra rewards from daily emissary. It's people like you call a grind everything that has no weekly cap, because you have no self control. In the upcoming weeks I expect whines will be about:

    - how all your AP is worthless before 7.2, because you grinded Maw of Souls like crazy
    - how people with 54 trait have only like 2 trait advantage over people with 35 weapon
    - how all new traits cost 18+ million AP (and interesting that so few people understand that exponential grow AP for new traits actually help alts and newcomers)
    - how you have to do 100+ Maw of Souls runs to get paragon 20/20 again
    - how all your AP is worthless before 7.3, because you grinded Maw of Souls like crazy

    I wonder how many patches it must take for tryhards to understand that AP is not a grind, it is progression path for whole expansion and encourage you to do different types of content. While we will enjoy 7.2 content, tryhards will do mythic+ all day, spam forums and vendor rest AP until next patch. We will have fun, they few % more dps few weeks before us and massive burnout.
    You're trying to argue that something in the game, that's going to give increased chances at obtaining new legendaries isn't mandatory for anyone who wants to raid seriously. Your "its only a grind if you make it that way" comment is complete bullshit, I'm sorry, but its true. Its a grind for anyone who wants to and will continue to take this game seriously when other people rely on them to do their most for progression raiding. AP is certainly a grind for anyone who raids and for anyone that wants to do mythic raiding. Everything this entire expansion is a grind to get power advantages to get boss kills. If you're too ignorant to see the truth, its not my fault that you're casual scum.
  1. Nozuka's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Zyky View Post
    Just feels pretty shitty that they're adding ANOTHER grind into the game.
    People can find something bad in everything...

    At the moment you get nothing from reputations, after you reach exalted. Now you will at least get a reward.
  1. meroko's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by paflodder View Post
    Why single out 1 dps spec and give it a disatvantage compared to ALL other spec's ??
    This will not sit well with the majority of ret's !
    I'm convinced these are just placeholder and all of them will amplify some ability instead of the damage increase.

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