Method - Mythic Tomb of Sargeras World First

Originally Posted by thilicen

Surprised to see they only have 1-2 artifact levels more than me, a semi-casual who's now at 4/9 heroic with no grinding going on between. I guess the whole "forced to do everything and play 24/7 to be competitive" thing is pure bullshit. Who would have guessed.

You do realize they have 4-6 alts with nearly the same I lvl and ap right?

congratulations

Another world first with stacked druids and immunity classes to cheese mechanics. Surprising noone.

Originally Posted by thilicen

Surprised to see they only have 1-2 artifact levels more than me, a semi-casual who's now at 4/9 heroic with no grinding going on between. I guess the whole "forced to do everything and play 24/7 to be competitive" thing is pure bullshit. Who would have guessed.

Every single raider of the main team in Method has 5 alts around same gear and AP level. Not only that, wiping on mythic bosses doesn't yield you any AP

Originally Posted by rikudo

5 druids and 5 rogues

Bring the player not class, remember Blizzard?

That applies to 99 percent of the player base. Regardless removing buffs is enough for that to be true. There will always be some imbalance.

They complained it was numerically impossible, and yet they finally down it with no hotfixes to the fight. This is one of those situations where the answer was stop sucking.

Originally Posted by shaunika123

member how that was like 8 years ago?

blizzard has said time and time again this exp that they want people to bring the class

it was also not because of class stacking that that philosophy was created
but because of stuff like class specific buffs (arcane intelect, motw etc) or shaman totems, etc that made it an absolute requirement to have all of those classes even on regular raiding/etc let alone world first progress

Somehow its always the class the lead developers play that gets overtuned.
Riddle me that.

Originally Posted by rikudo

5 druids and 5 rogues

Bring the player not class, remember Blizzard?

Yeah that has never been a statement to the world first race, that is 100% viable for every guild not in the top 5~ though.

Method could have killed KJ with any class setup they wanted, they just might not have come in first place.

Originally Posted by MrDonald

Somehow its always the class the lead developers play that gets overtuned.
Riddle me that.

yes they all play one class

also im betting my left ball that they dont all play rogues, seeing as it took them half the expansion to fix even the most basic issues with the class

not to mention how rogues arent even overtuned like at all

it's just that cloak+cheat death+feint is broken for cutting edge progression

Originally Posted by Nairesha

Congrats. Now please get good names for your toons/chars.

Probably a bit hard when you main 6 characters each.

Originally Posted by thilicen

Surprised to see they only have 1-2 artifact levels more than me, a semi-casual who's now at 4/9 heroic with no grinding going on between. I guess the whole "forced to do everything and play 24/7 to be competitive" thing is pure bullshit. Who would have guessed.

They have 5 characters like that. You probably have 1.

Originally Posted by Shakou

You do realize they have 4-6 alts with nearly the same I lvl and ap right?

lol its called account sharing.....

me and you do it, its bannable. just like selling runs and gear for real money. bannable. but hey if its part of something blizzard benefits from. A-OK

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Originally Posted by Virtuous

5 rogues 5 druids, standard

at least they are different rolls. tanks, heals, dps.

how about that rogue rogue rogue rogue rouge....hunter hunter hunter....setup

guess immunities are king this race.

look at all their other kills, not really a huge druid problem. they switch tank around a lot. even brewmaster :P
just two things are consistent. immunity and rogues


Guess we all just need to L2P Rogues.

Originally Posted by thilicen

Surprised to see they only have 1-2 artifact levels more than me, a semi-casual who's now at 4/9 heroic with no grinding going on between. I guess the whole "forced to do everything and play 24/7 to be competitive" thing is pure bullshit. Who would have guessed.

Yeah, remember the outrage when they annouced Concordance? Without it people would either no-life mythic+/wq until cap or just AP items would become totaly useless and we would have to sell it like junk until end of expac. Now AP items still have some use, but no one expect you to no-life this, even most hardcore guilds.

Originally Posted by Zan15

lol its called account sharing.....

Yaaaaa, no it's not, it's called ez as fuck to do if you have the time to spare.

me and you do it, its bannable. just like selling runs and gear for real money. bannable. but hey if its part of something blizzard benefits from. A-OK

I have 5 toons that are all 915-930ish I lvl, my main has concordance in all specs, and all of them have 56-58 points in their main spec, and working on a 6th toon that is currently 910 I lvl and nearly has concodance in 2 specs. And I'm casual, I don't even log in daily let alone raid more than extremely casually and not consistent at all on anything other than my main, they are very much not casual, they actually get paid to play and actually run multiple raids with different alts to gear them up. You don't know wtf you're talking about.

My brain hurts just thinking about that many wipes. Well played.

Originally Posted by Shakou

Well that came out retarded, but this site lags a bit sometimes so that's not what I was trying to get across, but rather that them and a lot of other top end guilds did a more casual raid schedule this tier for the mythic race and focused on gearing up from split pushes. So they spent less of their time in the race actually raiding mythic compared to last tier.

They also sped through their clear to KJ very quickly these last two weeks, so they had more time to focus and get in more pulls.

that's not what happened method, exorsus and maybe some other guilds raided as hardcore as usual 12-14 hours a day for the past 3 weeks. they always do splits to gear up characters.

Originally Posted by Shakou

Yaaaaa, no it's not, it's called ez as fuck to do if you have the time to spare.


I have 5 toons that are all 915-930ish I lvl, my main has concordance in all specs, and all of them have 56-58 points in their main spec, and working on a 6th toon that is currently 910 I lvl and nearly has concodance in 2 specs. And I'm casual, I don't even log in daily let alone raid more than extremely casually and not consistent at all on anything other than my main, they are very much not casual, they actually get paid to play and actually run multiple raids with different alts to gear them up. You don't know wtf you're talking about.

of course its easy they have been caught multiple times doing account sharing, account buying...etc etc

Originally Posted by thilicen

Surprised to see they only have 1-2 artifact levels more than me, a semi-casual who's now at 4/9 heroic with no grinding going on between. I guess the whole "forced to do everything and play 24/7 to be competitive" thing is pure bullshit. Who would have guessed.

Because they changed the way artifact works this patch didn't you notice? all you need is 52, you don't grind ap anymore.

Lol, very balanced setup that they had going there. Gz I guess.

Originally Posted by Shakou

Yaaaaa, no it's not, it's called ez as fuck to do if you have the time to spare.


I have 5 toons that are all 915-930ish I lvl, my main has concordance in all specs, and all of them have 56-58 points in their main spec, and working on a 6th toon that is currently 910 I lvl and nearly has concodance in 2 specs. And I'm casual, I don't even log in daily let alone raid more than extremely casually and not consistent at all on anything other than my main, they are very much not casual, they actually get paid to play and actually run multiple raids with different alts to gear them up. You don't know wtf you're talking about.

good for you, they spend half the time gearing toons since they split run everything and about 10hrs a day wiping on mythic bosses and that gives no ilvl or ap.

also i call your bullshit on casual with 58 on 5 toons, you play 5-6hrs a day every day and you know it. just because you might play less now doesnt mean you didnt before.