Patch 7.3 - Antoran Charhound and Gloomhound, Investor Call, Tweets

these hounds looks very cool like the real hellhounds.

Originally Posted by matheney2k

I went and actually looked it up. 800k accounts created ever. So about 5000-8000 people playing at once (and I'm being generous) at any given time. Soooo many people!

800k account =\= active player


see how is different by blizzard actually, and correct, method to track players?


also 30% of the account on nost are hacked and turned in gold spam bot.

Originally Posted by Tiwack

Wtf are these metrics? Embarrassed to release data on subs for Legion all of a sudden? Looks like cherry-picking data for the shareholders.

they been doing this since WoD, i think if i remember correctly they stop giving sub numbers at the middle of that expansion. And now they just report this.

Originally Posted by Kingpinwlock

I do wonder where they take the information about wow from; "World of Warcraft time spent grew year over year, and Legion continues to outperform the prior expansion." Is it just played time or do they actually think people LIKE the game right now?
OFC WE SPEND A LOT OF HOURS ON THE GRIND FEST THAT IS LEGION.. Outperform my ass when you have to play every hour of everyday to stay competitive.. (do not correct me)

Always find posts like this hilarious. "Wow! HOW COULD THEY EVEN THINK PEOPLE LIKE THIS GAME? WE ONLY PLAY IT FOR HOURS AND HOURS EVERY DAY!!?!"

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Originally Posted by ImpalerEU

Yes, the majority of players do want that. How many active players did Nostralis have again?.

100k. from over the 120 million people that have played since Vanilla. So.. less than 0.1%

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Originally Posted by Rogalicus

There are less than 50 people on my realm outside of prime time and wowprogress lists population at 3k. I hope you can do the math yourself.

Please tell me you didn't do /who, see "50 players online" and think that was all the players.

If so fucking LOL!

Originally Posted by matheney2k

You just said the same thing I did?

Yep but better say the same thing in different way so everybody can understand

No matter what WoW is doing with their game, if people didn't like the content, they wouldn't be doing it at all.

/thread

Originally Posted by Darth Dracula

Always find posts like this hilarious. "Wow! HOW COULD THEY EVEN THINK PEOPLE LIKE THIS GAME? WE ONLY PLAY IT FOR HOURS AND HOURS EVERY DAY!!?!"

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100k. from over the 120 million people that have played since Vanilla. So.. less than 0.1%

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Please tell me you didn't do /who, see "50 players online" and think that was all the players.

If so fucking LOL!

It was 150k. 150k isn't impressive for a completely random server hosted by random guys?. And are you seriously comparing it to vanilla's success?. The ignorance is rather strong here.

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Originally Posted by dranlord

lol and what was the rewarding part of Vanilla wow????? if you where on any guild that did the current raid you stuck on doing the last raid that was release.
And god forsake those ugly 40m raid where you need to deal with 10 idiots that didnt know mechanics or 5 ppl that go AFK for no reason.

yeah Vanilla rocks -.-

Plus i dont care about logging and be rdy for raid. i have 0 issues with the current model of AP grind since is easy to do it logging 2hs each day and doing WQ and 2 or 3 M+ making sure you just do a plus 15 at the end of the week to get Max ap from it and good gear.

I agree that WoD was bad but literrally it was like playing a phone app. But dont come and tell me Vanilla was good when it wasnt by far.

If vanilla wasn't good, WoW wouldn't still exist and easily dominate over a decade later.

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Originally Posted by Explicit Teemo Nudes

Not more than WoW. It's also free.

If you're comparing it to current WoW even though you know it's circumstances(run by random guys, everything can die overnight, zero advertisement compared to Blizzard as a company, unreliable and endless other factors) then you must have some serious mental disorders.

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Originally Posted by Valuable Poster

12k people on 5 server, 2 of them are nearly dead.

Congratuwelldone.



rofl 700k

150k actually. A simple research will prove you wrong.

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Originally Posted by matheney2k

Wasn't it peaked at something round 700k?

800k accounts created, 150k active players. Don't pay attention to "Valuable Poster", the guy is a nutcase.

Originally Posted by ImpalerEU

It was 150k. 150k isn't impressive for a completely random server hosted by random guys?. And are you seriously comparing it to vanilla's success?. The ignorance is rather strong here.

Not at all, just find it hilarious when people screech "BUT VANILLA SERVERS ARE WHAT THE PLAYERS WANT!" When it is a tiny tiny tiny percentage of people that ever played WoW even touch Vanilla Private servers.

Originally Posted by Darth Dracula

Not at all, just find it hilarious when people screech "BUT VANILLA SERVERS ARE WHAT THE PLAYERS WANT!" When it is a tiny tiny tiny percentage of people that ever played WoW even touch Vanilla Private servers.

Are you being willfully ignorant? There are many factors as to why Vanilla private servers have less population than an officially supported one would potentially have:
- People are hesitant to invest hundreds (or thousands) of hours on a server that can be shut down with no notice.
- The entire population is forced onto a small number of servers, meaning the more popular a private server becomes the less stable and enjoyable it becomes. This is exacerbated when multiple regions are forced together. (A prime example being Nost with Chinese vs Western players friction.)
- Some features, skills or encounters are re-implemented based on guesswork and sometimes don't work correctly. Typically this effort is duplicated over and over as each private server competes to be more accurate (or have other features) so they don't want to share their codebase.
- You need to download an old version of the game from a torrent or third party site. Many people aren't comfortable doing that.
- Lack of dedicated support and accountability by those that run the server.
- Servers that develop a clique around the admins or offer gear in return for donations are a big turn off.

Originally Posted by ImpalerEU

150k actually. A simple research will prove you wrong.

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800k accounts created, 150k active players. Don't pay attention to "Valuable Poster", the guy is a nutcase.

Pure bullshit, you need to learn how to research.

Googling "nostlarius active player" is like Googling for vax

Stop please.

Originally Posted by dotSeed

Are you being willfully ignorant? There are many factors as to why Vanilla private servers have less population than an officially supported one would potentially have:
- People are hesitant to invest hundreds (or thousands) of hours on a server that can be shut down with no notice.
- The entire population is forced onto a small number of servers, meaning the more popular a private server becomes the less stable and enjoyable it becomes. This is exacerbated when multiple regions are forced together. (A prime example being Nost with Chinese vs Western players friction.)
- Some features, skills or encounters are re-implemented based on guesswork and sometimes don't work correctly. Typically this effort is duplicated over and over as each private server competes to be more accurate (or have other features) so they don't want to share their codebase.
- You need to download an old version of the game from a torrent or third party site. Many people aren't comfortable doing that.
- Lack of dedicated support and accountability by those that run the server.
- Servers that develop a clique around the admins or offer gear in return for donations are a big turn off.

Theres also a lot of Reasons the servers see Population that would never support real Vanilla servers.

-They are Free.
-They generally have bonuses like EXP boosts which make the Vanilla experience easier.

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Originally Posted by Valuable Poster

Pure bullshit, you need to learn how to research.

Googling "nostlarius active player" is like Googling for vax

Stop please.

The Nost Devs posted the 150k numbers.

Originally Posted by Darth Dracula

The Nost Devs posted the 150k numbers.

Very Interesting

But

Why so Elysium have like 6k pve and 7k pvp players?

Maybe because 150k wasn't the real number?

Originally Posted by Valuable Poster

Very Interesting

But

Why so Elysium have like 6k pve and 7k pvp players?

Maybe because 150k wasn't the real number?

It wasn't 150k online at once it was 150k active accounts, and active is a broad term that could just be logging in once a month or twice a year who knows, but yes elysium does have 6-9k online at once while Nostalrius had closer to 10-11k pre shut down announcement.

Originally Posted by Mulled

It wasn't 150k online at once it was 150k active accounts, and active is a broad term that could just be logging in once a month or twice a year who knows, but yes elysium does have 6-9k online at once while Nostalrius had closer to 10-11k pre shut down announcement.

Perfect so we confirmed that 800k or 150k are bullshit.

Originally Posted by Mulled

It wasn't 150k online at once it was 150k active accounts, and active is a broad term that could just be logging in once a month or twice a year who knows, but yes elysium does have 6-9k online at once while Nostalrius had closer to 10-11k pre shut down announcement.

800k at total, 150k active (logged at least once) for last month of Nost. But yes, there were players all over the world, of course they didn't play concurrently.

Originally Posted by Decisive The Hallowed

Wonder if that will be 7.4 or New Expac? I guess they mostly save their Expac announcements at Blizzcon...

Legion was announced at gamescon
blizzard has been excited for this gamescon
and even said it would be the best one they have ever done.
and with legion having been announced, at one, they would need to do something even bigger

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Originally Posted by phoenixia

The what ? Oh you mean the Blizzard app !

no, its name has been changed... Its called the blizzard battle.net platform now.
People complained none stop about nostalgia and blizzard brought battle.net back.
the patch to change back has just not rolled out yet

Originally Posted by Valuable Poster

Perfect so we confirmed that 800k or 150k are bullshit.

Just like Legion doesn't have 5M (or whatever the number is) players online all the time.

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Originally Posted by dranlord

I agree that WoD was bad but literrally it was like playing a phone app. But dont come and tell me Vanilla was good when it wasnt by far.

Well.. some players just want MMO and RPG game. Which current game is not.

Originally Posted by matheney2k

You failing to understand what ACTIVE accounts mean, does not imply the 800k or 150k are bullshit..

You fail to understand HOW ACTIVE ACCOUNT are checked.

On nostl/elysium there are max 15k account active after the launch. NOT the 800k or 150k bs that people continue to throw like a tantrum, account created =\= account ACTIVE and even if there were 100k active account the first weeks it doesn't matter.

They can cherry pick what they want to make more people or Chinese bot to create account but they don't have obbligation like blizzard to his investor to give real precise data.

No 150k no 800k, end of story.

Originally Posted by akse

Just like Legion doesn't have 5M (or whatever the number is) players online all the time.

We don't have data so it is better to not give any absolute statement.

People get so emotional over these kind of FACTS. It's just facts being posted , don't tear up so fast , it doesn't matter how you feel.

Originally Posted by ImpalerEU

If vanilla wasn't good, WoW wouldn't still exist and easily dominate over a decade later.

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you wrong, it was a success for the moment. That doesn't mean it was great and the new things are bad, that you dont like it totally different. In the state of the game right now you can still RP if that someone if interested.

My way to think is, that they do the changes bc they do resarch and they find out is a improvement for the game, they can miss they are humans. But if the game didnt change and stay the way it was at Vanilla the game will die.

You can said what ever you want about the Vanilla server, but 1 is free to play, 2 the game that is 12 year old still have success, if not they will shut it down like other MMO that have die over the years that WoW have live and 3 yeah they aim to a new player base with each expansion bc is a business and they need to keep it generating money.

if you dont like or you can adapt (like most player) just quite and stop QQ. Is that simple.

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Originally Posted by akse

Well.. some players just want MMO and RPG game. Which current game is not.

sorry but no. The game still is a MMO and still is a RPG game. I dont know where you getting isnt??.

Maybe i dont get what you want from a MMO but right now, if i compare WoW with any other MMO out there it have the same formula. And as a RP game you can still do that on the game. Or i dont know what you want.