Antoran High Command, Developer Interviews, Moonkin Festival, HeroStorm Episode 31

Originally Posted by Uncle

Do they realise their ideas are crap on top of crap? This new expansion is gonna be worse than Wod.

Good talk. Great arguments. Also, Nightborne join the Horde because Blood Elves have had similar issues in the past (mana addiction, becoming withered, corruption from the Legion) and there's dialogue where the Nightborne show interest in the Horde.

The Artifact Weapon sendoff will take place just before the expansion. <- Prexpac event? Guess they wanted it to be universal. Or maybe we use the weapons to stabilize Azeroth. Not destroyed, just stored or something
The team is hoping to start beta early next year. <- Guessing April
The goal is to have Battle for Azeroth launch before the end of 2018. <- I'd hope so lol

Originally Posted by MrExcelion

The Artifact Weapon sendoff will take place just before the expansion. <- Prexpac event? Guess they wanted it to be universal. Or maybe we use the weapons to stabilize Azeroth
The team is hoping to start beta early next year. <- Guessing April
The goal is to have Battle for Azeroth launch before the end of 2018. <- I'd hope so lol

Yeah, my guess is in 8.0 during the pre-expansion event. Ability changes are usually in place then which are then built around not having artfifacts. So we'll probably get a stronger ilvl weapon in return.

One other thing

”Sneaky Pete” is a rogue Island AI character that likes to wait until you engage mobs to attack you. He is a jerk. <- It sounds like the "advanced AI" as they call it will be checking for certain player conditionals. Like think of the different load conditions/triggers that weakauras has. Probably nothing too fancy but that's my guess

Sad to see that small events being ignored by most players ;/

Originally Posted by Roudene

Sad to see that small events being ignored by most players ;/

That's the point of micro events and any content.

It's there to do if you want to do it. You shouldn't feel you have to.

One year of Antorus.

"The goal is to have Battle for Azeroth launch before the end of 2018."

Makes it sound much worse than what Ray Cobo actually said in the interview, where he said that their goal is to release it in 2018.

Originally Posted by Roar-Powah

"There are some preliminary requirements to starting the quest chains for Allied races - such as getting exalted with highmountain tauren before you can proceed."

Hmm i like to see this go live and not cause a shit storm. The person who came up with this idea that ties Allied races to faction rep needs to be taken out the back of no where and left there to rot.

OH NO, "minor amount of effort" my nemesis.

Meanwhile ppl want Vanilla

"Ion admits that the team hasn’t done a very good job in terms of World PVP and are looking to breathe new life into it with BfA."

There it is. There's always one thing per expansion that Ion says they didn't do a good job with, I was starting to worry about him.

Hey Ion, here's a hint: World PvP just happens. It's organic. Players invented Tarren Mill/Crossroads. But you killed it - and continue to kill it over-managing the player's experience and micro-managing everything. Let players breathe. Let some areas allow WPVP and don't nerf it. If it's impacting the server, find a way to shard it. ALLOW it, and don't try to design/micro-manage it. It was something your company didn't even put on the box, because players came up with it. Templates won't make it happen, WPVP isn't about gear or rewards, it was just for fun. Fun, you know that thing you and your team have so much trouble with?

It's like the dueling spots that players created, like out in front of Ironforge. Leave it alone. It's the players. They made it.

with the artifacts going, it would be nice if all weapons can transmog to others, including daggers+OH to stave for example. it would totally suck if you can't transmog to your artifact simply because it's a different type. high hopes, low expectations.

The goal is to have Battle for Azeroth launch before the end of 2018.

Good thing we can stop paying them whenever we want to .

Originally Posted by DrMcNinja

Good talk. Great arguments. Also, Nightborne join the Horde because Blood Elves have had similar issues in the past (mana addiction, becoming withered, corruption from the Legion) and there's dialogue where the Nightborne show interest in the Horde.

You shouldnt find excuses at this point. The Horde in WoW never made sense. Sophisticated elves from Silvermoon in an alliance with a horde of orcs and trolls, the races they fought bloody wars with within lifetime. The Forsaken, a bunch of undead freed from the Lich King? Among the same elves who they butchered with Arthas? In this mmo every race has to be shoved into one of the factions and it destroyed the lore from previous stories in Warcraft. Thats why i never played horde, because seeing undead and elves in Orgrimmar is immersion breaking. Now that the old night elves are joining the whole thing is even more nonsensical, and the fact that the orcs' warchief is an undead woman...

Originally Posted by Frolk

OH NO, "minor amount of effort" my nemesis.

Meanwhile ppl want Vanilla

Tbf, I can see the point.
If one of BfA's main selling point, new races, requires a pretty dull grind with a faction from the LAST expansion... That's pretty, atleast in my opinion, stupid. For new players, it essentially means that a couple of these allied races(I believe there was talk of the same thing for Nightborne, having to be exalted and maybe complete the entire storyline there as well. Lightforged Draenei requiring Army of Light exalted) won't have their questlines available to them.
This would be a problem for longtime players who have kept to a faction as well. Think someone on Alliance just wants to try and make a highmountain tauren, see the racials, perhaps enjoy the customisation. Well damn, guess they'll have to not only level their hordie character from scratch(which, tbf, this is a given concidering the questlines are faction specific!), but then also grind rep ontop of it. Or hey, since a suggestion was Lightforged Draenei requiring Army of Light, enjoy spending yet MORE time on Argus after what's looking to be a year of Antorus, repgrinding Army of the Light on the alliance character you didn't have before the expansion.
I'm not talking about the making the races just being readily available but the questlines to unlock these things, the storylines that were touted on blizzcon as a natural way to have the races go to their factions, shouldn't be behind Legion rep grinds.

My suggestion on this note is: No rep grind, but complete their respective storylines in the zones, for those that need it. Or, if they ARE so insistant on this rep grind for some of the allied races... have it, you know... be like "have atleast one character exalted with them", or have the account-wide rep achievements.

For me Horde Vs Alliance just doesnt seem a big enough threat to focus on. Allot of my friends are on the other side, we have teamed up with them in the past they not all that different. At best we are equal in strength. Just no hype for BfA at all. They should have put all the focus into a big bad how is more scary and powerful than us and just had this ally vs horde as a side thing.

Originally Posted by susaku

Tbf, I can see the point.
If one of BfA's main selling point, new races, requires a pretty dull grind with a faction from the LAST expansion... That's pretty, atleast in my opinion, stupid. For new players, it essentially means that a couple of these allied races(I believe there was talk of the same thing for Nightborne, having to be exalted and maybe complete the entire storyline there as well. Lightforged Draenei requiring Army of Light exalted) won't have their questlines available to them.
This would be a problem for longtime players who have kept to a faction as well. Think someone on Alliance just wants to try and make a highmountain tauren, see the racials, perhaps enjoy the customisation. Well damn, guess they'll have to not only level their hordie character from scratch(which, tbf, this is a given concidering the questlines are faction specific!), but then also grind rep ontop of it. Or hey, since a suggestion was Lightforged Draenei requiring Army of Light, enjoy spending yet MORE time on Argus after what's looking to be a year of Antorus, repgrinding Army of the Light on the alliance character you didn't have before the expansion.
I'm not talking about the making the races just being readily available but the questlines to unlock these things, the storylines that were touted on blizzcon as a natural way to have the races go to their factions, shouldn't be behind Legion rep grinds.

My suggestion on this note is: No rep grind, but complete their respective storylines in the zones, for those that need it. Or, if they ARE so insistant on this rep grind for some of the allied races... have it, you know... be like "have atleast one character exalted with them", or have the account-wide rep achievements.

Wow it's almost as if they expect people would have played the previous expansion. Which would have them easily at exalted anyway.

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Originally Posted by Hugh Wattmate

For me Horde Vs Alliance just doesnt seem a big enough threat to focus on.

People keep saying this, yet seem completely have missed the big part about how HvA isn't the whole expac focus and that Old GOds and Azshara are also main points.

Originally Posted by Darth Dracula

Wow it's almost as if they expect people would have played the previous expansion. Which would have them easily at exalted anyway.

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People keep saying this, yet seem completely have missed the big part about how HvA isn't the whole expac focus and that Old GOds and Azshara are also main points.

THis is true, definately. But concidering they ALSO try to get, you know, fresh blood in, I say it again, I feel as though it's a stupid decision.
And again, opposite faction players. Sure, at this point in time, I can start properly rep grinding my blood elf with the Nightborn and Highmountain factions... yet again, ooor, they could just look at my main, go "Hey, this guy's exalted with the required reps, good enough."

Originally Posted by Darth Dracula

Wow it's almost as if they expect people would have played the previous expansion. Which would have them easily at exalted anyway.

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People keep saying this, yet seem completely have missed the big part about how HvA isn't the whole expac focus and that Old GOds and Azshara are also main points.

I get that its obvious we will still have a big bad probably n'zoth at the end and azshara already confirmed for 2ed tier. But its just odd how those are not the focus and instead its like the focus is on the side task.

Originally Posted by Hugh Wattmate

I get that its obvious we will still have a big bad probably n'zoth at the end and azshara already confirmed for 2ed tier. But its just odd how those are not the focus and instead its like the focus is on the side task.

People seem to think that the Bad guys are lined up so as soon as one of them falls, another one is instantly there to start shit going. It's nice to see how the factions react to the lull between threats and isn't surprising to me that the "big bad" will slowly make itself a bigger threat as the expansion goes on. Otherwise you get that shitty feeling like in Wrath of the Lich King where Arthas was in your face during the leveling experience then suddenly "Oh we are fighting Dragons and Old gods" then a year and a half later he's just appears all "MUAHAHHA NOW YOU CAN FIGHT ME CHAMPION!"

I'd rather a build up than a huge opening with a dull middle only to have the end just be the logical continuation of the opening.

Originally Posted by Darth Dracula

People seem to think that the Bad guys are lined up so as soon as one of them falls, another one is instantly there to start shit going. It's nice to see how the factions react to the lull between threats and isn't surprising to me that the "big bad" will slowly make itself a bigger threat as the expansion goes on. Otherwise you get that shitty feeling like in Wrath of the Lich King where Arthas was in your face during the leveling experience then suddenly "Oh we are fighting Dragons and Old gods" then a year and a half later he's just appears all "MUAHAHHA NOW YOU CAN FIGHT ME CHAMPION!"

I'd rather a build up than a huge opening with a dull middle only to have the end just be the logical continuation of the opening.

I kinda like LK hype throughout wrath, yeah the ToC part seemed a bit odd but it was really cool seeing him about antagonizing.

p.s Your profile pic i can relate to, Destroyed another headset last week grrrr. Damn those little wheels!