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Who is the hungering darkness? it seems Sylvanas serves it. the Hood of Hungering Darkness is a remnant of a rare dark magic only practiced by the warlocks is something in the void still?

Originally Posted by keymil

I'm totally against this stupid war, but Anduinn giving a speech in the centre of Orgrimmar, in front of the Horde warriors looks and sounds just... wrong. Lmao that cinematic was something.

"I hate A, but I don't want B"

Originally Posted by delphiskye

Who is the hungering darkness? it seems Sylvanas serves it. the Hood of Hungering Darkness is a remnant of a rare dark magic only practiced by the warlocks is something in the void still?

LOL exactly...

Originally Posted by niv78

I believe the 4th war is everything involved since the start of world of warcraft, so since vanilla we've been at war with the Horde.

It's more of a game/franchise thing, according to the lore :

The First War is Warcraft (Orcs & Humans), and the Second War is Warcraft II.
The Third War is basically from the invasion of Lordaeron by Arthas to the fall of Archimonde at Hyjal, which would make it roughly Warcraft 3 + vanilla + BC.

The only good part of this questline was the bit where I could PvP against traitors outside Orgrimmar and I killed an Orc rebel on my Blood Elf main.

Sadly that was confined to the quest itself, but hopefully they’ll let us kill more Horde AND Alliance. Fuck both factions.

Originally Posted by Darknessvamp

This may seem like a derailment but what was the point of saving Baine (both as a story point and gameplay)? Sure he was "a friend of Anduin's" and the "Heart of the Horde" (somehow, more like Steaks-in-waiting) but what did he contribute to the resistance aside from being a torch bearer?

Also it's laughable how Jaina can just stand in front of the Horde and no one says anything. Especially the Zandalari, Blood Elves and Forsaken.

Everyone was being mislead by her, she started the entire war...it was all her. If anything people like Jaina should be pissed at the Horde for blindly following such a maniac.

I hope it was kel'thuzard... we need a no nonsense undead leading the forsaken rather then a plot device.

Originally Posted by Whiskyjack

I hope it was kel'thuzard... we need a no nonsense undead leading the forsaken rather then a plot device.

The person leading the Forsaken after Sylvanas is likely to be Calia Menethil. The novel supports this, and so does the shiny, new Undead model for her.

Originally Posted by Moody Blue

Like he would tell the truth.

He actually never lie. At least i cant remember instance where he lie.

Originally Posted by caninepawprints

The person leading the Forsaken after Sylvanas is likely to be Calia Menethil. The novel supports this, and so does the shiny, new Undead model for her.

Unless Odyn is going to give her use of the Val’kyr, then Syl will somehow still lead them. As it is, Syl’s Val’kyr are the only way for The Forsaken to continue getting more of a population.
If Syl is gone completely, with her Val’kyr, then the Forsaken are a dying race.

Originally Posted by Aliven

He actually never lie. At least i cant remember instance where he lie.

1. He hasn't appeared that much yet
2. How would you know? That's the point of a lie. You think with a plan like that he's gonna tell the truth?

About time they are looking to end the stupid red vs. blue once and for all. It was silly before, it's silly now and WoW is one of the few MMOs that still cling to the outdated faction concept. The "war" has been over since Warcraft 2 if you pay attention to any of the lore; I mean hell the entire point of Warcraft 3 (and WoW, and every expansion since) was that every time the Horde and Alliance fight each other, all it does is strengthen their enemies and weaken them, and they have to join forces at the end anyways.

It's time for it to go. They can very easily eliminate factions for PVE and keep them for PVP purposes; lots of other games have done that without preventing people from playing with their friends because someone really like Orcs and someone really wants to play a Dwarf or whatever.

Originally Posted by Moody Blue

1. He hasn't appeared that much yet
2. How would you know? That's the point of a lie. You think with a plan like that he's gonna tell the truth?

He too serves a master you know. It might not be him whispering but that doesn't mean he doesn't know who did.

Originally Posted by Moody Blue

Like he would tell the truth.

He flat out tells us that he didn't want her to be Warchief because Sylvanas is killing too much and keeps what she kills as undead. He's all for war and death but she's tipping the balance too far for his liking. The Lich King and Eyir both tell Vol'jin that he's been touched by something far more sinister than either of them are capable of doing, and if I had to guess, Bwonsamdi too. Though I wouldn't put it passed Blizzard to be all "Oops, they all lied" at this point. I just have a feeling whatever it was that pushed for Sylvanas' naming of Warchief is who she serves, not someone we know by name in the current lore.

Originally Posted by Fabled

He flat out tells us that he didn't want her to be Warchief because Sylvanas is killing too much and keeps what she kills as undead. He's all for war and death but she's tipping the balance too far for his liking. The Lich King and Eyir both tell Vol'jin that he's been touched by something far more sinister than either of them are capable of doing, and if I had to guess, Bwonsamdi too. Though I wouldn't put it passed Blizzard to be all "Oops, they all lied" at this point. I just have a feeling whatever it was that pushed for Sylvanas' naming of Warchief is who she serves, not someone we know by name in the current lore.

Like he would tell the truth.

Originally Posted by delphiskye

Who is the hungering darkness? it seems Sylvanas serves it. the Hood of Hungering Darkness is a remnant of a rare dark magic only practiced by the warlocks is something in the void still?

It's not exactly clear. It could be WoW's Death version of the Void Lords and Titans or if it could be it's related to the Devouring Darkness that the Kobolds fear and could be the boss of that creature.

Originally Posted by Sorotia

Everyone was being mislead by her, she started the entire war...it was all her. If anything people like Jaina should be pissed at the Horde for blindly following such a maniac.

So Alliance ambush in Stormheim, attempted assassination and spies attacking Horde Civilians in Silithus isn't Casus Belli? Or what about mobilising a Night Elf army against Silithus? You mean Jaina who took a time out in the shadow realm to mope about herself and flip flop over whether she thinks her father was justified or evil?

Originally Posted by thilicen

"I hate A, but I don't want B"

I suppose if you are a really shallow person with zero imagination, then indeed only two extreme options can exist in your mind.

For people giving even a bit thought there is always a middleground, with multiple choices.

Your comment is dumb on many levels.

Don't care. I'll come back to WoW when the patch notes will say:

*Fixed multiple issues that prevented ranged specs from putting up a fight in pvp against a number of melee specs.

Originally Posted by Moody Blue

Like he would tell the truth.

Alright, done talking with the parrot.

Originally Posted by Fabled

Alright, done talking with the parrot.

Sorry that you don't get it. Bwonsamdi is a manipulator. You can't cite him for proof.