[Politics] Why is the world's opinion different than America's?

[Arlon]

They can and do, though. China and Russia's disgruntlement over potential U.N. involvement in the Arab Spring is a big part of the reason why the U.S. and other Coalition governments are taking more of a laissez-faire attitude to those conflicts.

I'm not sure what other example you might have in mind. Maybe, Iraq? That's a long discussion to get into, but there are plenty of viable reasons for why the Coalition went in to overthrow Saddam despite protests from France and the likes.

Im not really sure what you have in mind with this. The "fuckups" i referred to was the economic crisis.

Wars are more complicated things with different parties wanting different things. Screwed up economy on the other hand is not in any nations interest.

[Mammoth]

From a British point of view I would say that Obama has a more friendly attitude to the rest of the world. This is what makes the rest of the world appreciate him much more.

When there is a period of hardship, populations tend to close up and become more self-centric. The republican party better represents this self-centric attitude, much like the conservatives do in the UK. Naturally such opinions play better within the country rather than outside.

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Im not really sure what you have in mind with this. The "fuckups" i referred to was the economic crisis.

Wars are more complicated thing with different parties wanting different things. Screwed up economy on the other hand is not in any nations interest.

Ah, okay. Well the way you used the phrase "fuckups" felt very general to me, so I went with some of the issues that come to mind for me first.

But yeah, the global economy is a frustrating entity and it is annoying to feel like certain economies have a much bigger impact on some others, even if perhaps their own economies would be okay if they were not connected. I guess countries getting more of a "say" there would be with their buying power, which is again affected by economic influence, but if imports/exports are shaped by political stances and stuff it could have a positive effect on things, but because most governments put businesses before people, they are unlikely to restrict companies from trading internationally in order to help with domestic employment etc.

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USSR was doing pretty good till it wasn't. Everything takes time. Canada depends on the US for most of its income so it is a unique situation. I have little knowledge of Sweden so I'm sorry.

Socialism isn't communism come on for god's sake read a book about it.

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Why am I not surprised there's so many clueless comments about socialism.

[Deleted]

I still say it's none of their business. If Americans started looking deeply into other countries leaders and politics I'm sure they could say a lot too.

Thing is.... It is our business.
And it'll keep being that until the USA foreign policy keeps being so invasive, no pun intended.
It sure fucking concern ME if you guys decide to invade Iran to help your warmongering allies.
Same could be said on an economic point of view. If you set yourself up as the leading nation in the world, if wall streets DECIDES the price of rice in Bulgaria, or Uganda, or Haiti, it surely concerns a lot of people outside the us.
And, shall I add, rightly so.

If you want to play the game you got to stick with the rules.

[Arlon]

Ah, okay. Well the way you used the phrase "fuckups" felt very general to me, so I went with some of the issues that come to mind for me first.

But yeah, the global economy is a frustrating entity and it is annoying to feel like certain economies have a much bigger impact on some others, even if perhaps their own economies would be okay if they were not connected. I guess countries getting more of a "say" there would be with their buying power, which is again affected by economic influence, but if imports/exports are shaped by political stances and stuff it could have a positive effect on things, but because most governments put businesses before people, they are unlikely to restrict companies from trading internationally in order to help with domestic employment etc.

Im fine with a calculated policy regarding the economy of ones nation, for the most part. The banking crisis was different, it was chaotic. Still, even though chaotic, it was born from the rotten goverment(congress) policy regarding regulation and banking in general. Obama does not seem to activily support the people responsible with his proposed policy though. Hence, under my current knowledge, i would advice US citizens to vote for him.

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Im fine with a calculated policy regarding the economy of ones nation, for the most part. The banking crisis was different, it was chaotic. Still, even though chaotic, it was born from the rotten goverment(congress) policy regarding regulation and banking in general. Obama does not seem to activily support the people responsible with his proposed policy though. Hence, under my current knowledge, i would advice US citizens to vote for him.

Okay. Seems like a pretty well thought out viewpoint.
(I found the bail outs ludicrous myself. I'm a social democrat, but I think if a country is going to espouse free-market Capitalism as a defining feature of its existence, a company should never be too big to fail. Determination not to spend public money on health care, but spend it on rescuing inefficient businesses seems like a pretty bad example of amoral corporatism to me, which isn't free-market or particularly nice.)

[Vainglorious]

BBC News is require BY LAW to be completely unbiased. ...

Pakistan supports Romney over Obama. Your move.

Except the economies of almost every country in the world are deeply intwined with one-another, so nobody sane has a vetted interest in seeing America fail, it would be bad all around.

People need to stop listening to Netanyahu and Israel in general.

LOL, the BBC is so laughably biased when it comes to stuff like israel. I don't know what it is about liberals and hating the jews, but they seem to do it everywhere.

Pakistan is supposedly an "ally" but they're really just pissed that O keeps allowing drone strikes in their country.

Global economies are entwined, but the majority of people are not "sane" when it comes to economics. They're generally morons about, why do you see country after country going broke?

Also, Netanyahu is super awesome. It is wise to have him and his party in power during this trying time.

[Wells]

And we're on to disagreeing with Israel makes you an anti Semite.

Charming.

[Bakis]

LOL, the BBC is so laughably biased when it comes to stuff like israel. I don't know what it is about liberals and hating the jews, but they seem to do it everywhere.

Pakistan is supposedly an "ally" but they're really just pissed that O keeps allowing drone strikes in their country.

Global economies are entwined, but the majority of people are not "sane" when it comes to economics. They're generally morons about, why do you see country after country going broke?

Also, Netanyahu is super awesome. It is wise to have him and his party in power during this trying time.

Ironic cos Israels economy is in serious trouble and has been so for tha past 10 years.

[Vainglorious]

You do realize, right, that the U.S. Democratic party is quite a bit further to the right than conservative countries in most countries?

It's my general experience that most people who support Romney put too much emphasis on money, money, money. They care more about being taxed by a few percentage points less than they do about living in a country that values equal rights and access to basic institutions (school, health care, etc). I'm not saying that's always true, but it's definitely the perception.

Oh I know that the USA is a center right country, and most dems are to the right of Euro socialists. If the green party had a chance, they'd probably support that candidate. And the fact that this is a center right country is what has made it great. The relatively small government control allowed great wealth to be created and the economy and our freedoms to thrive.

And it's not personal taxes that drive Romney supporters, it's about the size and scope of government. We believe government should not control everything and that people do best with as little as possible. Most of the people voting for him are not rich at all, but they know that high taxes lead to high unemployment and that hurts everyone. They also think that small government helps people vastly more than large gov in those other things, school, health care, etc. Any time gov money flows to something, first there's massive waste, then there's massive inflation of the prices of it. See college price inflation. There's no reason college should cost 50k a year, but since most students receive loans and gov grants, the colleges up the rates as fast as they can get away with.

I see the other side as the greedy side. They want to tax other people, and give the money to themselves. That's just greed. Vote for O, he gave me a phone! He gives free food, free housing, etc.

[N-7]

LOL, the BBC is so laughably biased when it comes to stuff like israel. I don't know what it is about liberals and hating the jews, but they seem to do it everywhere.

Pakistan is supposedly an "ally" but they're really just pissed that O keeps allowing drone strikes in their country.

Global economies are entwined, but the majority of people are not "sane" when it comes to economics. They're generally morons about, why do you see country after country going broke?

Also, Netanyahu is super awesome. It is wise to have him and his party in power during this trying time.

Not bending to Israel is not the same as hating Jews. Unlike America, Europe has some dignity left when it comes to human rights.

[Cthulhu 2020]

Why am I not surprised there's so many clueless comments about socialism.

Because people listen to Fox News like it's a reliable source of information, and when talking about socialism and obama and democrats Fox News tends to give the definition of communism when it's talking about socialism.

[klaps_05]

Prolly because they have no clue who Romney is.

[N-7]

Prolly because they have no clue who Romney is.

I believe it is quite the opposite. It is because we know who Romney is.

[Bigbamboozal]

I can give 3 reasons OP

1: America is for america and no other country. And hey, good for them, but not so great for the rest of us, hence why their foreign policies come under fire so often.

2: No other country is more number 1 then america...number 1 at incarcerating it's own citizens.

3: No other country is more number 1 then america...number 1 at believing in angels.

I certainly don't speak for the rest of the world, but from where I am standing, how the hell am I supposed to get behind that politically?

no....I have to add a number 4.

4: There is just NOTHING respectable about posing as 'the good guys' when you've commited as many/ even greater/worse atrocities over the course of history.
How the hell can you kill woman and children and still call yourself good? How do you test chemicals on your own citizens and still have them waving a flag and thumping their chests? Or was that what was in the chemicals? It certainly made their own citizens blind to what's going on. So I guess as an outsider, I just pick the one who looks least to go on a world wide rampage.

[Ealyssa]

Sums it pretty well, even if in french (comes from a very weel known French newspaper called "Le Monde")

title : "Obama leads in non key states"
"There is some doubt with a state, here on the left, but reelection at the world's head should be ok"

[mvaliz]

Sums it pretty well, even if in french (comes from a very weel known French newspaper called "Le Monde")

title : "Obama leads in non key states"
"There is some doubt with a state, here on the left, but reelection at the world's head should be ok"

Hehe - yeah, you don't need to know French to get the point of that comic. :P

[Ealyssa]

Hehe - yeah, you don't need to know French to get the point of that comic. :P

I guess color code helps