The sky is falling, oh....wait.... no it's just raining. So us LFRer's have to wait a week. No biggie, we'll have it for months. Don't know if I agree with gating the first section for a week but raiders have already cried too much about LFR that it was a bone tossed to them. Do I like it, not really but I'm big enough to realize Blizzard is trying to appease a portion of their player base.
As for LFR killing raiding in general, if raiding in general was more fun than more people would do it. Don't blame blizzard for people preferring LFR over normal.
Last edited by dryankem; 2013-03-07 at 06:52 PM.
Couldn't agree more.
This whole punishing LFR raiders because a select few want to cry on forums has gotten old fast and I have a feeling ether before the end of this x-pac or the start of the next one it will come to a end and those who act all self centered will need to adapt or leave.
Blizzard made dungeons harder in cata because a select few cryed on forums and now the whole gating crap that has started since the start of MOP.
blizzard will ether wise up or the subs will keep bleeding.
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I don't mind a bit that Blizzard is, through their actions, giving non-LFR raiding something of a preference/head-start on new raids and seeing end-game bosses. That's their choice and if it bothers people to wait, then they should go and seek a guild that will allow them to do otherwise. If the argument is the one where there's not enough time to play or a reliable schedule problem then I don't see how gating things for a bit is a problem either.
In any case, it's time to wake up and smell the coffee: LFR has been split up and gated since day one. It's very likely to stay that way.
So yes. LFR gating. Again. Suck it up and deal with it.
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O look a mod who agree's with something blizzard has done....nothing new here to see.
those who do Normal/Heroic Mode bitched a shit ton at the start of MOP due to the raids being locked and MMO-Champs and blizzard's forums was lit up cause of it. But now its just LFR raiders the Normal/Heroic Mode raiders are ok with it.
bias much got to love things that don't effect you right.
feel free to infact/ban me when my reply to you breaks no rules it isn't like I didn't give you the attitude that you just gave LFR raiders.
Also to your sig is kinda funny because you just broke rule 2/3
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Looool.
Sorry, it's just funny because I'm starting to see this exact phrase said quite often lately. It looks very similar to this one:
"If 25 man raiding was more fun than more people would do it. They do 10s because they prefer them."
Know what happened to 25 man raiding? It's pretty much dead.
I'm a big fan of normal raiding, but, if 25s are any indication, then GG 10 mans too.
25 is dead because it's not fun getting 25 people together, not due to which was actually more fun to do. Blizzard didn't kill it, the player based just didn't want the hassle. Now there is another option besides having to find a raiding guild and fitting into their roster and/or schedule. It still isn't the game's fault. They could put gold unicorn's for 25s and people would still do 10s or LFR.
When 25s had the best gear, people did it for the gear, but being equal it's obvious what the player base prefers.
Last edited by dryankem; 2013-03-07 at 07:11 PM.
I dont think so. Imagine WoW as a cake. Some people eat the entire cake, some people eat only half of the cake and others eat only the cherry on the top (latest PvE Raid). Last thing I would like from my chef is cutting my favorite cherry in pieces, giving me only one piece and tell me to wait untill he can feel secure about giving me the rest of my cherry.
Since the start of Cata wow's subbs have been bleeding and what is the most common thing from then to now.
Blizzard lisseing to the small few on there forums.
But once more ill ask again a question normal/heroic raiders refuse to answer.
"Why was it ok for you to bitch that you had no raids at the start of MOP but it is ok for them to not give LFR raiders anything on patch day."
if your reply is "because its easy'er" don't reply at all because that's a bullshit answer.
So let me give the real answer. "gating LFR dose not effect you so you don't care but yet you feel that blizzard's choice is right because you don't want other players to play a easy'er mode of raiding then you and finishing it faster"
Doing all of TOT-LFR day one dose not finish the content because those who run it still have to farm LFR to gear up for the next patch just like Normal/Heroic Raiders....
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It really isn't going to make a single fucking difference. Honestly. It won't lure players back to doing normals and furthermore the normal players won't get their fill of gear by the time 6 weeks is up (hell I doubt most of them will have cleared the last boss) and theyl be doing lfr to get a boost anyway. IT's just a naked attempt to get you to sub for longer. It' so shitty.
No not really. Let's be honest for a minute. The motivation for raiding has always been about gear and for a smaller minority challenge. Normals provide the better of both. Nobody who is set on running normals will all of a sudden jump to LFR and abandon his or heard raiding guild because LFR is open on week one. While I"m sure that's true for some, the sad reality is that LFR has already poached that source of players. In the past they had no choice at all and had to raid normals for gear. Now instead of having their lives dictated by a raiding guild they just wait another week to see lfr and get gear. At this point the people who are doing normals are going to stick with doing normals. Opening lfr on week one or week ten won't fucking matter one bit. In fact what your more likely to see is after 6 weeks players will still be running both to get the boost they need.
They could resolve that problem by simply making new LFR raids rewards equal to previous tier Normal raid rewards. Problem solved, raiders happy, LFR raiders happy. I didnt took much resources to figure it out either. Blizzard should hire me.
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I think it is time for you to find a more ambitious guild.
Last edited by mmocac96309fe0; 2013-03-07 at 07:31 PM.
I really hate when people generalize everyone in their position as conforming to their ideals. Please stop doing this, it's obnoxious.
OT:I only raid LFR and do other stuff in the game when I have the time. I enjoy LFR because it gives me the option to raid now that I have less time. Does it bother me that LFR is gated? Not in the slightest. Am I going to enjoy it when it comes out? Most definitely.
I don't understand this idea that you're going to unsub because LFR isn't available day 1. If LFR is the only thing you want to do why are you paying $15 a month for it? It is surely not enough for me to pay it(and yes I know this is subjective but so is how much a dollar means to an individual). Thankfully there is an abundance of stuff to do while doing when LFR is not available or, hell, when it is available and in queue for LFR.
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Ultimately the gate is a symptom of a larger problem. Like I said I would be more likely to sub for another month if I had got a bunch of reward out of the game in the month that I was playing it. Now even without the 6 week gate that wasn't a likely scenario given how slow things are in this fucking game already. Their obsession with RNG as a tool for engaging game play is stupid. It isn't engaging. It's lame getting the shaft week after week. Now take that and add another 6 week delay, further retarding what is an already slow and arduous grind and it's a recipe for unsub.
Honestly I could live with the gate if I knew in the 6 weeks coming my time would be rewarded well enough and the wait would be rewarded. That isn't the case really and the gate just makes a slow process take even longer.
Last edited by Leonard McCoy; 2013-03-07 at 08:57 PM.
I don't believe there's any tokens dropping in the first wings of LFR. Just like there was no tier in MSV.
Running LFR to complete a set bonus is a perfectly reasonable use of LFR and is one that Blizzard intends. Running LFR to gear up in general is not intended though.