Why do we condemn pedophiles and accept homosexuals?

[Deleted]

I'm perfectly sane and I do. What now?

Continue what you're doing?

I mean, no one can force you to seek help in combating the disorder present in you, and it's quite clear you're not a child molester; Because otherwise, prisons must have good internet.

Really, i have no bones to pick with people who never act upon these urges, i'd want them to seek help but that's an opinion.

[LiiLoSNK]

You sneaky little genious did you teach that to yourself? How do you call that? When you say things which are not like they are in reality?

Gotta look at it from all the angles my friend.

Were you one of the kids at school that if anyone stood up for homosexuality you would be like "omg you're gay!"

If I see someone rooting for the Raiders, I'm going to assume they're a raiders fan.

Were you one of the kids in school that if a teacher was staring down a student's shirt, you would be like "omg high five! good job not acting on that!"

[Velaniz]

It's a simple fact that a 10 year old's brain isn't developed enough to fully consider the consequences or even understand them. This is a horribly uninformed (and scary) opinion to hold.

There's obviously a clear difference between actual consent being there (albeit not being legally recognized), and consent being absent altogether.

Granted, claiming 10 year olds know what they're doing is retarded, but we had a thread a few days back where a handful of people basically condoned (and even encouraged) a pedophile fucking an 8 year old, so I don't know if I should be too surprised.

[Deleted]

do people who fantasies about rape need help? many couples men and women act out rape fantasies. being the rapeist and or wanting to be the one raped

Rape fantasies are absolutley different. Very few people fantasize about actual sexual assault, only about a situation that simulates it. It's sort of similar, I suppose, to when you're feeling all tense and you just want to blow off some some steam, if you're bored or stressed at work and all you can think about is running home, jumping on call of duty or something and shooting a bunch of dudes. You're thinking about how much you want to do something that simulates shooting a bunch of dudes, but not actually fantasizing about shooting dudes for real.

[Coraulten]

Being black and gay doesn't mean you're sexually attracted to a child. I don't care how many times you try to break it down to make it seem like being a pedophile is fine and normal; it's not. It's a child. No sane adult should be turned on by one or want to have sex with them.

Being a pedophile is fine, molesting children is not. We do not police thoughts therefore as long as actions are not taken upon these urges there is absolutely nothing wrong with being born with a sexual attraction to children.

[Deleted]

I see many people in here took great care to skillfully ignore the "non-acting pedophiles" part of the OPs post. What is wrong with them? Are they indoctrinated? ignorant? Is something wrong in their brain?

Non-acting here means that no, he hasn't touched a kid's juicy bits, or downloaded pics/vids of other people doing so. He's probably a good person who would help other people out, either of his own volition or if someone asks for help. Yet, these people would act like he's the son of Satan and Hitler incarnate, only worse, just because stuff he may or may not think. I'm sorry, but crimethink isn't a thing just yet.

[LiiLoSNK]

Now your just being ignorant. If you have nothing smart to input, just leave the thread.

Are you actually implying that anything smart could stem from a thread that is comparing gay people to pedophiles?

[Stir]

Secondly many young children are capable of making informed consent claiming that all children are incapable of that is ludicrous certainly babies and toddlers, I agree with you but anything over 10 can make informed consent.

Nopes. Younger children are deemed of being incapable of granting informed consent because they're stupid. They lack the brains (physically) to be able to grant informed consent to anything.
Their opinion is important in child custody things, but other than that, they are deemed underdeveloped.

The brain stops developing generally between one's 28th and 31st year of life, but is generally deemed 'mature' at 21. At 18, you'll be allowed to vote, and many countries deem a person rational enough for sexual decisions (with older people) after the age of sixteen.

I'm perfectly sane and I do. What now?

Accept the fact that you're not sane, and seek help.

[Shinra1]

And those are the arguments the child molesters use, frequently.. The laws are there to protect the children, I have yet to see a court accept that a 12-year old or lower of age was "in on it" with a grown man.

I didn't say the state allows a young child to consent to having sex with an adult. However, I was making note of circumstances such as child impancipation and even child habilitation where the court allows a child younger than 16 to make informed consent.

Perhaps as we advance further as a society that is free-thinking we'll see courts sanctioning pedophile relationships.

[Deleted]

Why are heterosexuals allowed to have sex with the opposite gender and yet cannot do the same with a child?

The notion that sex suddenly becomes immoral because the hole you are sticking your dick in does not belong to a woman is just absurd. There is no logic behind it. It doesn't damage society, it doesn't damage the two consenting individuals (well at least not more than doing the same to someone of the opposite sex), I literally cannot think of any reason why homosexuality should be considered morally wrong. There is no reason for you to be outraged by this, it doesn't affect your or anybody else's life at all. Citing evolution and usefulness (or lack thereof) for society does nothing, we don't get our morals from evolution. You don't go around killing all retarded people, do you?
Now, if you argue that marriage and adoptions should only be allowed by heterosexual couples, I disagree, but I can at least think of an argument one could make against such an arrangement.

[Deleted]

I've felt like, and in the moment thought about killing some people plenty of times in my life. I guess I'm a murderer.

[Velaniz]

Are you actually implying that anything smart could stem from a thread that is comparing gay people to pedophiles?

You missed a key part of the OP. Read it again.

[Takure]

My mind is boggled that there is more than one poster that give the impression pedophilia is okay. No...no..it's not...it's just wow...no. Even the bad of the bad...the worst of the worst don't condone pedophilia. Example....put a gay guy and a pedo in prison....tell all the prisoners........guess who's likely to be breathing the next morning? I can tell you it's not the guy you liked little Timmy....age 2.

And you've just won the award from most ignorant person of the century. As someone has already said, Pedophilia doesn't hurt kids at all, because Pedophilia is only an attraction to children. A Child Molester is someone that cannot control their pedophilic desires, a pedophile is someone that can. See the difference? If you think all Pedos are molesters, do you also think that all straight men are rapists? I'm guessing not.

Most men fall under the Ephebophilia (attraction to people between the ages of 15-19) slice of the Pedo cake anyways. Even though is not actually Pedophilia, most people see it as such because it involves people under the legal age of consent.

[Toobad]

I'm pretty sure there are more pedophiles out there than anyone thinks... The difference is that some can control their urges and some can not.

You don't usually know about someone being a pedophile until they molest a child or get busted for keeping child porno.

[LiiLoSNK]

You missed a key part of the OP. Read it again.

How about you point it out for me.

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I'm pretty sure there are more pedophiles out there than anyone thinks...

I'll say. There's like 20 in this thread right now.

[Deleted]

You're not sane. It's a child - you're an adult. You're sick. Seek hep.

Sanity - the condition of being based on reason or good judgment, a person is sane if he/she is rational.

Which of this I am not, and why?

[Shinra1]

Are you actually implying that anything smart could stem from a thread that is comparing gay people to pedophiles?

Outside of the west pedosexuality is not a controversial topic and you see old men marrying young girls that's their culture and it works for them.

In fact let's compare homosexuality....and ............pedophilia

1.............................Atypical.............................Atypical
2...........................Previously included in DSm........ Included in DSM
3............................. No chance of offspring ...........Offspring

[Queen of Hamsters]

I see many people in here took great care to skillfully ignore the "non-acting pedophiles" part of the OPs post. What is wrong with them? Are they indoctrinated? ignorant? Is something wrong in their brain?

Non-acting here means that no, he hasn't touched a kid's juicy bits, or downloaded pics/vids of other people doing so. He's probably a good person who would help other people out, either of his own volition or if someone asks for help. Yet, these people would act like he's the son of Satan and Hitler incarnate, only worse, just because stuff he may or may not think. I'm sorry, but crimethink isn't a thing just yet.

I'm sorry, but I see nothing valiant in a grown person feeling sexual tension whenever he sees a child, but taking care not to act on it. I WOULD respect him/her for seeking help for it though, but most of them don't...if they're not molesting children in the flesh, they sponsor a market where children are being hurt so so badly...I have a very hard time believing that there is a single pedophile out there who has NEVER even watched something that appeases their urges. Even asexual people have watched porn on at least one occation just to see what the fuss is about.

Let's say if all laws were taken away and no one would beat him to a bloody pulp afterwards, would he stop himselfs from acting for the sake of the child...?

[Deleted]

The part where you think it's okay to want to fuck kids and being sexually attracted to them.

Gr8 argument m8.

[Deleted]

This thread is a just a mindfuck tbh.

If we didn't condemn pedophilia then you are sending out the wrong message, and I can guarantee ALL those "sleeper" pedophiles would act upon their desires if they were told "it's OK to be attracted to children".

Homosexuality hurts nobody, and never will. Pedophilia can manifest itself to the point the pedophile does something horrible.