Republican Election 2016 - Donald Trump Megathread [OFFICIAL]

[Deathcries]

Methinks that his idea of ending wars with other nations was to simply start a civil war in America. ;P

A Civil War with whom? Liberal leftist? LoL Every progressive I've ever personally met is as about as strong as my 16 year old daughter. I was in the military for 6 years. In basic training every out liberal failed making it through. Most are cowards and have no physical fight in them. Pure cowards. There would be no fight. Leftist use people like me to push their agenda.

However I believe in Freedom. Even though liberal/progressive/socialist/communist ideology has killed over 100 million people, I believe in the BoR including the 1st amendment. You have the right to spew retarded ideas to take away freedom, and you can continue to do so, as long as you're not hurting my pocket book or infringing on my rights. However once you starting trying to take mine away then we'll have a problem.

[PC2]

Of course, Trump didn't tell people to go kill Hillary, he merely suggested they could kill her to stop her from appointing a liberal supreme court judge because he knows he's losing a lot of down ticket seats for Republicans and a nomination will make it through a Democrat controlled senate easily.

Thumbs up good buddy!

Violence is wrong, yet we cannot allow our rights to be diminished by an authoritarian.

[Deathcries]

Violence is wrong, yet we cannot allow our rights to be diminished by an authoritarian.

Violence is wrong, until it becomes right. Sometimes violence is the answer, and gets shit done.

I would rather die fighting than on my knees.

[Shalcker]

There's been a lot of explanations for how Trump could suddenly pull out of a nose dive, even people pointing to examples. Examples of course are very much the exception and not the rule. And the more stupid things Trump says, the further and further away we get from the possibility that this election turns out like those, since they all involved extraordinary circumstances. Clinton would have to kill someone in broad daylight for all to see to kill her campaign.

Well, as Trump said in primaries, he could kill someone in broad daylight and it would NOT deter his supporters...

The way your news cycle seems to be going everything before last few weeks will be forgotten anyway - relegated to "another thing Trump/Clinton said among hundreds", reduced to one line in final attack ads at most - and there will not be many lines remaining by the end. Pretty sure this "second amendment" thing will not make a cut.

And his rating was diving and then catching up several times before. Way too early to call Clinton victory certain.

Clinton just has to keep running her campaign as-is, smile for the camera and keep going. Trump is doing a good enough job sending his election up in flames.

But, as for example Colbert video shows, she seems to fail even in that... biggest problem in Clinton campaign is Clinton herself.

You know what any other nominee would have done in response to the Khan incident? Gone to the grave of the son and put an American flag and flowers on it. That would have kicked all of the Trump nay sayers in the nuts right there. Instead he just proved them right, that he's a jackass with no control.

I don't think it's really possible for people who already picked camps to change sides at this point.

But many still seem to be undecided - after all, both options are awful...

[Noxx79]

A Civil War with whom? Liberal leftist? LoL Every progressive I've ever personally met is as about as strong as my 16 year old daughter. I was in the military for 6 years. In basic training every out liberal failed making it through. Most are cowards and have no physical fight in them. Pure cowards. There would be no fight. Leftist use people like me to push their agenda.

However I believe in Freedom. Even though liberal/progressive/socialist/communist ideology has killed over 100 million people, I believe in the BoR including the 1st amendment. You have the right to spew retarded ideas to take away freedom, and you can continue to do so, as long as you're not hurting my pocket book or infringing on my rights. However once you starting trying to take mine away then we'll have a problem.

Lol if we're going to play that game, every right winger I've met talks big game but would be cowering in their basements cradling their useless ar-15s. like the impotent tools that they physically have, to do anything regarding a rebellion m.

[Wulfey]

A Civil War with whom? Liberal leftist? LoL Every progressive I've ever personally met is as about as strong as my 16 year old daughter. I was in the military for 6 years. In basic training every out liberal failed making it through. Most are cowards and have no physical fight in them. Pure cowards. There would be no fight. Leftist use people like me to push their agenda.

However I believe in Freedom. Even though liberal/progressive/socialist/communist ideology has killed over 100 million people, I believe in the BoR including the 1st amendment. You have the right to spew retarded ideas to take away freedom, and you can continue to do so, as long as you're not hurting my pocket book or infringing on my rights. However once you starting trying to take mine away then we'll have a problem.

We had a Civil War between liberals and conservatives. Liberals/abolitionists wanted to abolish slavery. Conservatives/slavers wanted to keep it going. The Conservatives formed the Confederate States of America (it was a more conservative constitution that lacked a strong federal government and a commerce clause, dooming its logistical effort in the war). Conservatives lost.

[Deathcries]

Lol if we're going to play that game, every right winger I've met talks big game but would be cowering in their basements cradling their useless ar-15s. like the impotent tools that they physically have, to do anything regarding a rebellion m.

What's the reason to rebel? How about you stick to your leftist convictions and go take a right wingers guns? You'll find out real quick how our convictions are.

The boiling point for the American revolution didn't happen over night, son.

[PC2]

Lol if we're going to play that game, every right winger I've met talks big game but would be cowering in their basements cradling their useless ar-15s. like the impotent tools that they physically have, to do anything regarding a rebellion m.

AR-15s are not useless against civilian authoritarians.

The military is mostly outward facing and overall not left wing.

[Shalcker]

When was defending Trump because he is bff with Putin now added to your job description?

Because being contrarian is fun - i can find plenty of echo chambers if i would want my ideas to remain unchallenged, but finding good spots where people always disagree is hard :P
And local Trump supporters don't seem to be doing good enough job keeping Clinton bias away from Trump thread too! :P

They'll probably not be bff with Putin anyway though.

But in case of Clinton it is "certainly will not be".

[Deathcries]

We had a Civil War between liberals and conservatives. Liberals/abolitionists wanted to abolish slavery. Conservatives/slavers wanted to keep it going. The Conservatives formed the Confederate States of America (it was a more conservative constitution that lacked a strong federal government and a commerce clause, dooming its logistical effort in the war). Conservatives lost.

Ummm The first republican president abolished slavery....Democrats wanted to keep it in.

I know what you're going to say. "They magically switched parties."

Like Robert Byrd. The grand dragon or whatever the fuck he was leader of the KKK was a prominent member up until a few years ago in the democratic party.

LBJ saying "I'll have those Ni****s voting democrat for the next 200 years." Never happened.

Margaret Sanger a liberal darling never said about blacks"...human weeds,' 'reckless breeders,' 'spawning... human beings who never should have been born."

Fucking liberal parasites.

[Skroe]

Violence is wrong, until it becomes right. Sometimes violence is the answer, and gets shit done.

I would rather die fighting than on my knees.

Ask Al Qaeda how men with guns fair against Drones.

You know who develops the technology behind those things? Spoilers: Typically not NRA types.

I mean that's kind of the fallacy about the whole armed insurrection thing right? Nonsense. Here? In this country? Absolutely not.

Let's talk Al Qaeda. Al Qaeda is and will always be murdering, terrorist zealots. But for years they were also something else: exceedingly professional in what they did. It was not an amateur operation and it's operatives were not stupid. They had practices, developed and mastered a "craft" of their own, and learned from the Pakistani ISI. And they did all this in the mountains of Afghanistan, some of the least well mapped terrain on earth. When the US Military invaded in 2001, they relied on maps last made by British military expeditions during World War I, 90 years prior. That's how, until relatively recently, uncharted the region Al Qaeda hid in was

It did not save them. Al Qaeda central may be still around, but only in name. Most of it's core leadership and members who were alive on 9/11 have been captured or dead for a decade. Osama bin Laden was one of the last ones. Relentless military assaults by the US, the Drone war, cyberwarfare, novel intelligence gathering tactics all, slowly but surely, all but destroyed the organization.

Now let's consider the United States. Our territory, including our vast national park system, is some of the most well charted territory on earth, every inch of it photographed in extremely high resolution from orbit over many years. The USGS has extremely detailed maps of every corner of this country.

It would be impossible for American rebels to hide in the wilderness like Al Qaeda did. They'd be instantly surrounded by all sides and the US government would have everything they need to find them. All of them. Not to mention that unlike Al Qaeda, American rebels would lack in the professionalism category. All it would take is one push notification about how a sports team is doing, to light the insurgent group up like a Christmas tree, before a Drone pays a visit. And where do they resupply and rearm? These US militia groups know exactly one supply line: Walmart with their Credit Cards. That would not be open to them.

Al Qaeda by contrast, relies on hostage money, drug sales money, religious taxes, and the generosity of wealthy Muslims who remain beyond reach of the US. And their weapons come from the absolutely vast flow of Arms across central Asia. You can find guns in the Kyber Pass for instance, that have been in continuous use since the early 20th century. There is no vast arms network across the US that is comparable... not like Central Asia.

American Militias wouldn't stand a chance. People who want guns to defend themselves against the government are living a fantasy. Al Qaeda tried everything to survive the US throwing nearly everything we got at them, and it didn't save them. And they were far more capable than any American militia group would ever be. They had the right location and right resources. In America, a militia group would have none of that.

[PC2]

Ask Al Qaeda how men with guns fair against Drones.

You know who develops the technology behind those things? Spoilers: Typically not NRA types.

I mean that's kind of the fallacy about the whole armed insurrection thing right? Nonsense. Here? In this country? Absolutely not.

Let's talk Al Qaeda. Al Qaeda is and will always be murdering, terrorist zealots. But for years they were also something else: exceedingly professional in what they did. It was not an amateur operation and it's operatives were not stupid. They had practices, developed and mastered a "craft" of their own, and learned from the Pakistani ISI. And they did all this in the mountains of Afghanistan, some of the least well mapped terrain on earth. When the US Military invaded in 2001, they relied on maps last made by British military expeditions during World War I, 90 years prior. That's how, until relatively recently, uncharted the region Al Qaeda hid in was

It did not save them. Al Qaeda central may be still around, but only in name. Most of it's core leadership and members who were alive on 9/11 have been captured or dead for a decade. Osama bin Laden was one of the last ones. Relentless military assaults by the US, the Drone war, cyberwarfare, novel intelligence gathering tactics all, slowly but surely, all but destroyed the organization.

Now let's consider the United States. Our territory, including our vast national park system, is some of the most well charted territory on earth, every inch of it photographed in extremely high resolution from orbit over many years. The USGS has extremely detailed maps of every corner of this country.

It would be impossible for American rebels to hide in the wilderness like Al Qaeda did. They'd be instantly surrounded by all sides and the US government would have everything they need to find them. All of them. Not to mention that unlike Al Qaeda, American rebels would lack in the professionalism category. All it would take is one push notification about how a sports team is doing, to light the insurgent group up like a Christmas tree, before a Drone pays a visit. And where do they resupply and rearm? These US militia groups know exactly one supply line: Walmart with their Credit Cards. That would not be open to them.

Al Qaeda by contrast, relies on hostage money, drug sales money, religious taxes, and the generosity of wealthy Muslims who remain beyond reach of the US. And their weapons come from the absolutely vast flow of Arms across central Asia. You can find guns in the Kyber Pass for instance, that have been in continuous use since the early 20th century. There is no vast arms network across the US that is comparable... not like Central Asia.

American Militias wouldn't stand a chance. People who want guns to defend themselves against the government are living a fantasy. Al Qaeda tried everything to survive the US throwing nearly everything we got at them, and it didn't save them. And they were far more capable than any American militia group would ever be. They had the right location and right resources. In America, a militia group would have none of that.

Again, the military is largely outward facing and not left wing. Guns are for attacking civilian authoritarian soft targets.

[Wulfey]

Ummm The first republican president abolished slavery....Democrats wanted to keep it in. I know what you're going to say. They magically switched. Robert Byrd, LBJ saying "I'll have those Ni****s voting democrat for the next 200 years." Never happened. Margaret Sanger a liberal darling never said about blacks"...human weeds,' 'reckless breeders,' 'spawning... human beings who never should have been born."

Fucking liberal parasites.

Liberals believe in social progress. At the time, the Republican party was the party of progress (i.e., banning slavery). The Democratic party was the white man's party at the time, just as Andrew Jackson envisioned it. It was conservative, in that it was trying to preserve the existing order and property rights arrangement (i.e., maintaining slavery). This isn't hard. Liberal/Conservative movements have moved between the parties over time as different coalitions enter and exit the parties.

To Skroe's point: also remember police forces. The police are armed and patrol the streets domestically. Any insurrection would have to overwhelm police forces that remain loyal to the state/local governments.

[Deathcries]

Ask Al Qaeda how men with guns fair against Drones.

You know who develops the technology behind those things? Spoilers: Typically not NRA types.

I mean that's kind of the fallacy about the whole armed insurrection thing right? Nonsense. Here? In this country? Absolutely not.

Let's talk Al Qaeda. Al Qaeda is and will always be murdering, terrorist zealots. But for years they were also something else: exceedingly professional in what they did. It was not an amateur operation and it's operatives were not stupid. They had practices, developed and mastered a "craft" of their own, and learned from the Pakistani ISI. And they did all this in the mountains of Afghanistan, some of the least well mapped terrain on earth. When the US Military invaded in 2001, they relied on maps last made by British military expeditions during World War I, 90 years prior. That's how, until relatively recently, uncharted the region Al Qaeda hid in was

It did not save them. Al Qaeda central may be still around, but only in name. Most of it's core leadership and members who were alive on 9/11 have been captured or dead for a decade. Osama bin Laden was one of the last ones. Relentless military assaults by the US, the Drone war, cyberwarfare, novel intelligence gathering tactics all, slowly but surely, all but destroyed the organization.

Now let's consider the United States. Our territory, including our vast national park system, is some of the most well charted territory on earth, every inch of it photographed in extremely high resolution from orbit over many years. The USGS has extremely detailed maps of every corner of this country.

It would be impossible for American rebels to hide in the wilderness like Al Qaeda did. They'd be instantly surrounded by all sides and the US government would have everything they need to find them. All of them. Not to mention that unlike Al Qaeda, American rebels would lack in the professionalism category. All it would take is one push notification about how a sports team is doing, to light the insurgent group up like a Christmas tree, before a Drone pays a visit. And where do they resupply and rearm? These US militia groups know exactly one supply line: Walmart with their Credit Cards. That would not be open to them.

Al Qaeda by contrast, relies on hostage money, drug sales money, religious taxes, and the generosity of wealthy Muslims who remain beyond reach of the US. And their weapons come from the absolutely vast flow of Arms across central Asia. You can find guns in the Kyber Pass for instance, that have been in continuous use since the early 20th century. There is no vast arms network across the US that is comparable... not like Central Asia.

American Militias wouldn't stand a chance. People who want guns to defend themselves against the government are living a fantasy. Al Qaeda tried everything to survive the US throwing nearly everything we got at them, and it didn't save them. And they were far more capable than any American militia group would ever be. They had the right location and right resources. In America, a militia group would have none of that.

Who do you think will control the military? Liberals or Conservatives?

People like myself who mainly volunteer for the Army? You know one of my jobs in the military was to fly drones? You need to shut the fuck up about things you don't have a fucking clue about.

[BrerBear]

Then there's Mr. "They're both liars, the fact that Trump lies about 100 times more often about far worse things is irrelevant! We should be focusing on the fact that they both do it!" "Also here's that 13 minutes of Hillary lying, which isn't really 13 minutes of Hillary lying, it's about 11.5 minutes of filler and her not actually lying, and 1.5 minutes of stuff about her email, WHICH SHE TOTALLY LIED ABOUT PLEASE STOP POINTING OUT ALL OF TRUMP'S LIES."

But Hillary repeated the untrue story she'd been told as a kid about being named after Sir Edmund Hillary. DON'T YOU SEE WHAT A MONSTER THAT MAKES HER?!?!

[Noxx79]

Ummm The first republican president abolished slavery....Democrats wanted to keep it in.

I know what you're going to say. "They magically switched parties."

Like Robert Byrd. The grand dragon or whatever the fuck he was leader of the KKK was a prominent member up until a few years ago in the democratic party.

LBJ saying "I'll have those Ni****s voting democrat for the next 200 years." Never happened.

Margaret Sanger a liberal darling never said about blacks"...human weeds,' 'reckless breeders,' 'spawning... human beings who never should have been born."

Fucking liberal parasites.

If you think Lincoln would in any way be happy with the current state of the Republican Party and their nominee, you've retreated so far into delusion that nobody can believe a word you say.

[Deathcries]

Liberals believe in social progress. At the time, the Republican party was the party of progress (i.e., banning slavery). The Democratic party was the white man's party at the time, just as Andrew Jackson envisioned it. It was conservative, in that it was trying to preserve the existing order and property rights arrangement (i.e., maintaining slavery). This isn't hard. Liberal/Conservative movements have moved between the parties over time as different coalitions enter and exit the parties.

Andrew Jackson was a democrat and a shit stain. Keep typing about things you don't have a fucking clue about.

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If you think Lincoln would in any way be happy with the current state of the Republican Party and their nominee, you've retreated so far into delusion that nobody can believe a word you say.

Blah blah blah, I'm going to start throwing in straw man arguments about shit I don't have a clue on and think for someone "who I hope thinks like me."

Fucking Pseudo intellectuals and fucking parasites.

Infracted - please post constructively

[Cyberowl]

Andrew Jackson was a democrat and a shit stain. Keep running your cock holster about things you don't have a fucking clue about.

Sheeesh, do you kiss your mother with that mouth?

[BrerBear]

I'm actually getting scared, y'all.
Scared that Trump will drop out of the race.

I'm really counting on him being obliterated.
(cross fingers)"Please don't self-destruct so early, DJT. Please!"(cross fingers)

[Noxx79]

Sheeesh, do you kiss your mother with that mouth?

Like I posted before, he exemplifies " the big talking coward " that seem to permeate the right wing.