Kevin Spacey apologizes after allegations of sexual misconduct

[Venant]

It's an odd apology, stating that he doesn't remember what actually happened, but the fact that he apologized in this manner seems incriminating. It's pretty bad considering that the person who made the accusation was 14 years old at the time. I really like the Kevin Spacey's work and it is unfortunate to see this, but it really seems like Hollywood is crashing with no survivors at this point.

Actor Anthony Rapp has accused Kevin Spacey of making a sexual advance at him when Rapp was 14, Buzzfeed reported Sunday.

In an interview with Buzzfeed, Rapp said Spacey picked him up, put him on his bed and "was trying to get with me sexually." Spacey was 26 at the time.

In response to the allegations, Spacey tweeted that he was "beyond horrified to hear [Rapp's] story."

Spacey tweeted: "I honestly do not remember the encounter, it would have been over 30 years ago.
"But if I did behave then as he describes, I owe him the sincerest apology for what would have been deeply inappropriate drunken behavior, and I am sorry for the feelings he describes having carried with him all these years."

[Fonduset]

He's just getting it in early before more allegations appear.

[Independent voter]

What a way to come out!

[Shinra1]

I think we should all be very careful and not try and crucify this man who is an extremely apologetic and redeemable figure who has done more good than bad. I've been on twitter this morning and many people are bashing him for trying to deflect with him coming out as gay.
I even feel bad for him because it was such a long time ago and he cannot remember. There's no right or wrong way to apologise for doing something like this. I think all the holier-than-thou crowd should have several seats and shut up.

[Venant]

He's just getting it in early before more allegations appear.

He also just came out as Gay, so now it is a conflict of whether the headlines will be about that our about possibly molesting a 14 year old years ago.

[belfpala]

What a way to come out!

...I'm pretty sure we already knew Spacey was gay. Like, very gay.

[Fonduset]

He also just came out as Gay, so now it is a conflict of whether the headlines will be about that our about possibly molesting a 14 year old years ago.

Hopefully it is about the child molestation rather than coming out. It's 2017, barely anyone cares if you come out anymore

[belfpala]

He also just came out as Gay, so now it is a conflict of whether the headlines will be about that our about possibly molesting a 14 year old years ago.

That's the headline, not his gayness, or at least it should be.

[Venant]

I think we should all be very careful and not try and crucify this man who is an extremely apologetic and remediable figure who has done more good than bad. I've been on twitter this morning and many people are bashing him for trying to deflect with him coming out as gay.
I even feel bad for him because it was such a long time ago and he cannot remember. There's no right or wrong way to apologise for doing something like this. I think all the holier-than-thou crowd should have several seats and shut up.

*If* the allegation is true, how do we do the ethical calculus here? How much good does somebody have to do in order to attempt to force themselves on a 14 year old?

[Nalorakk]

*If* the allegation is true, how do we do the ethical calculus here? How much good does somebody have to do in order to attempt to force themselves on a 14 year old?

It is possible to say "this person has done good things but that doesn't justify this bad thing they have done"

Not that morality is real though

[Trassk]

Why are older people drawn to the young, like below legal age? Aside from it being immoral, it be like going after unripened fruit in a supermarket, and saying you prefer it before it ripens.

I know some people have weird fetishes, but this ones always been a head scratcher, why would anyone want to sleep with something undeveloped, inexperienced, chance of being arrested and messing with said persons mental state.

[Independent voter]

*If* the allegation is true, how do we do the ethical calculus here? How much good does somebody have to do in order to attempt to force themselves on a 14 year old?

Harvey Weinstein did a lot of good by donating money to various causes over the years, he's very left wing, they mostly are left wing in Hollywood.

[Shinra1]

*If* the allegation is true, how do we do the ethical calculus here? How much good does somebody have to do in order to attempt to force themselves on a 14 year old?

If the allegation is true, I can still forgive him and look past his previous actions. We've all made mistakes in the past and this is no different. We obsess over a moment in a bedroom 30 years ago while most of the world is struggling to find something to eat or fighting off fanantics and criminals and rising oceans. Probably most shocked and outraged tweeters are busy watching PornHub 3 hours a day, cheating on their spouses, buying sex toys, or checking out students coming home from the local high school…

I think we need to save the moral outrage for others not a closeted gay man who was pressured to repress his sexuality by everyone.

[Deleted]

Allegations of an attempted crime, very solid. Weird apology though.

[death87]

Harvey Weinstein did a lot of good by donating money to various causes over the years, he's very left wing, they mostly are left wing in Hollywood.

annnnd derailed into leftwing vs rightwing at this point forward.

[lockedout]

It's pretty bad considering that the person who made the accusation was 14 years old at the time.

14 years old and a boy IIRC?

[The Oblivion]

sounds like nothing actually happened and someone wants some free attention. this is quickly turning into kneeling for the national anthem and watering down real monsters.

also, id be curious if he knew what age the boy was, and what the advance was. remembering this was before a time where people felt the need for 14 page sexual disclosures before speaking to anyone else sexually.

[Flutterguy]

He came out so you can't criticize him without looking like a bigot.

[Super Kami Dende]

annnnd derailed into leftwing vs rightwing at this point forward.

Was bound to happen. This is Gen-OT.

As far as the allegations go. 30 years is a long time to expect Spacey to both remember an exact incident and if it was true or not. Considering he himself would've not even been in his 30's. So the response of "But if I did behave then as he describes" meaning at this point if he doesn't remember a drunken night from 30 years previous how does he even go about defending himself against an allegation?

[Fonduset]

I can see this thread showing some sweet double standards from people