The Happiest Countries in the World

[Aggrophobic]

Kind of wondering how the Swedish Welfare system will adapt to the hordes of uneducated, culturally backwards migrants over the next 20 years.

Hordes? Thats a bit of a stretch.
Swedens immigration policy is a lot stricter now than it was a few years ago as well so you have nothing to worry about there.

In the long run, more people is a good thing for the economy in any case. It can cause issues in the short term however.

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I'd agree that the Scandinavian model is better for the median person, but I'm smarter, more educated, work more, and earn more than the median person - I'm fairly sure I'm better off in the United States than any Scandinavian country.

Well, if you have to say it...

[Kuntantee]

Nordic countries have little product market regulation. They also rank highly in terms of business freedom.

USA is regulated way less than Nordics, and even your links prove that. What is your point then?

[Aggrophobic]

USA is regulated way less than Nordics, and even your links prove that. What is your point then?

"Way less"? The US is within 1-2% in that link on average and at the same percentage as Denmark.

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I mean, Here in Norway where there is less immigration the newest report on immigration from the national statistics center revealed that if immigration continued like it does today, it will put an unbearable strain to the welfare state. Every single Norwegian tax payer would have to pay an additional 10.000 Nok every year in 2100 to compensate for the fact that African and Asians here put a huge strain on welfare.

So no, its not good in the long run. Immigration is in fact unnecessary. Especially from Africa and parts of Asia.

If it's needed or not could be debated for sure but it's not like any of the scandinavian countries will buckle under.
In the long run they will add to your economy however. Their kids will grow up and get to take part of the same educational system as you and they will most likely be about as useful on the market as you are.

Short term, it's costly though. No debate there.

[Player Twelve]

If it's needed or not could be debated for sure but it's not like any of the scandinavian countries will buckle under.
In the long run they will add to your economy however. Their kids will grow up and get to take part of the same educational system as you and they will most likely be about as useful on the market as you are.

Short term, it's costly though. No debate there.

Gonna need some proof that they perform the same as Swedes, because as far as I'm aware the results of PISA-tests show that the 2nd gen are performing worse than Swedes, which usually spells worse employment situation after school.

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I guess The story was from a girl I know, she could've made it up yes. I could've made it up yes. Just like your mother could've made up she's your mother. Do I really need to bring her forward as a witness to some sort of tribunal? Wtf is this. Believe it or not, I'm not making shit up, but I know because it doesn't fit your narrative you'll claim I'm lying until the day you die. Must be hard to live a life like you full of lies, where you put all your energy into ignoring the truth.

Bro..that girl must have lied, Sweden is super safe just like it was 20 years ago no difference at all..

wait.. why are there gated communities popping up:

https://www.svt.se/nyheter/lokalt/jo...ed-communities
https://www.pressreader.com/sweden/v...81844348944295
https://samnytt.se/grannskap-betalar-for-egen-vaktare/

these must be lies as well right?

[ButterBeast]

There. Fixed that for ya. You are welcome.

fixed what? You not knowing shit about the thousands of yearly deaths aint my problem.

[Aggrophobic]

Gonna need some proof that they perform the same as Swedes, because as far as I'm aware the results of PISA-tests show that the 2nd gen are performing worse than Swedes, which usually spells worse employment situation after school.

Actually, social status has the largest impact on results and immigrants tend to occupy the lower sectors there. Not really by choice though.
That doesn't chnage the fact that second gen will most likely do much, much better than their parents and hey, not eveyone can be an engineer.

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Bro..that girl must have lied, Sweden is super safe just like it was 20 years ago no difference at all..

wait.. why are there gated communities popping up:

https://www.svt.se/nyheter/lokalt/jo...ed-communities
https://www.pressreader.com/sweden/v...81844348944295
https://samnytt.se/grannskap-betalar-for-egen-vaktare/

these must be lies as well right?

Feeling unsafe and being unsafeis not the same thing.
Social media and being connected 24/7 is to blame for that. Sweden is still one of the safes places on earth and you are, in most cases, less likely to be a victim of violent crime now than you were 30 years ago.

[breadisfunny]

They're cold countries, you need to freeze your nuts off to be happy.

at least they lead healthy happy productive lives and don't have to go into bankruptcy because of a sudden illness.

[Spectral]

Well, if you have to say it...

Stating something that's objectively true doesn't make it false. No one's under any obligation to believe me, but I have plenty of objective evidence that I'm way above average.

[breadisfunny]

I suppose it depends on how you define "middle class". The numbers quoted earlier or even just using something close to the median with those tax rates would make it quite difficult to put yourself in a situation where early retirement is feasible. I don't care at all about trying to be rich, but I'd very much like to put myself in a position where I won't have to work past my early 40s. This is a lot easier to pull off if you're in a financial position to surplus a significant amount of your working income and turn it into investments.

I'd agree that the Scandinavian model is better for the median person, but I'm smarter, more educated, work more, and earn more than the median person - I'm fairly sure I'm better off in the United States than any Scandinavian country.

unless your fairly well off the likelyhood of that is very low.

[Player Twelve]

Actually, social status has the largest impact on results and immigrants tend to occupy the lower sectors there. Not really by choice though.
That doesn't chnage the fact that second gen will most likely do much, much better than their parents and hey, not eveyone can be an engineer.

Not seeing any proof, just you claiming things without any proof. Most likely based on wishful thinking.

[Spectral]

In the long run, more people is a good thing for the economy in any case. It can cause issues in the short term however.

There's no reason for citizens to worship at the altar of "the economy". Per capita production is far more relevant to a typical citizen than whether low skill labor can be imported to undercut present labor prices.

Present experience in Europe is not consistent with the idea that the present influx of Muslim immigrants is likely to have positive long-run results. There is little evidence at present that second generation Muslims in Europe are well integrated or productive relative to native populations.

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unless your fairly well off the likelyhood of that is very low.

I do pretty well.

What number do you think is the breakpoint where you're better off being in the United States?

[satimy]

Canada, New Zealand, Australia and Switzerland are not ethnically homogenous at all.

Canada, NZ and Australia all have indigenous communities as well as decent sized Asian or Pacific Islander communities. Even ethnically most Euro-descent Canadians/Kiwis/Aussies are a hodgepodge of European peoples. Australians primarily being of English, Irish and German descent, Canadians from all parts of the British Isles as well as Central Europeans and Meds.

As for Switzerland it's ethnically/linguistically split between Germans, French, Italians and Romansh. Switzerland is one of the most multicultural countries in Europe and in the West.

Switzerland is 90% European

New Zealand is 75% European

Canada has only recently started to become significantly less European, although the majority of their immigrants are Asians they are still 80% European

Australia is 90% European

[Lochton]

1. Norway
2. Denmark
3. Iceland
4. Switzerland
5. Finland
6. Netherlands
7. Canada
8. New Zealand
9. Australia
10. Sweden

What do you know the top 10 are practically all democratic socialist, socialism/capitalism hybrids, or capitalist with heavy socialistic regulation.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/norway-...untry-of-2017/

Why am I not surprised...

EDIT: Oh damn 1,500 posts.

Meh, looks about right. I don't mind being a second place, as well, Norway is lovely, Iceland is nice as well.

[Travis B]

Tbh, I actually do hope you get raped by a muslim gang.

Stay classy.

[Techno-Druid]

Switzerland is 90% European

New Zealand is 75% European

Canada has only recently started to become significantly less European, although the majority of their immigrants are Asians they are still 80% European

Australia is 90% European

'European' is not an ethnicity.

the fact or state of belonging to a social group that has a common national or cultural tradition.

There are 87 distinct peoples of Europe recognized.

An ethnically homogenous country would be like Japan which is overwhelmingly (~99%) of the Japanese ethnicity.

[Santti]

Ha! Suck it Sweden! (Just friendly rivalry between neighbors, please don't ban me. :P)

Not too surprised at the results, to be honest.

[Mormolyce]

They are also largely ethnically homogeneous

They are not.

Australia's population is 30% immigrants, and if you include children of immigrants it's more like half the population.

You're just spreading racist rhetoric again.

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Tbh, I actually do hope you get raped by a muslim gang. Then you'll know that this has literally nothing to do with racism. Tell that to the countless girls who are afraid to pass a group of Arab men, that they're racist and they are making this up. ''Just go on, you'll be safe.''

Yeah no, it kind of does.

[satimy]

They are not.

Australia's population is 30% immigrants, and if you include children of immigrants it's more like half the population.

You're just spreading racist rhetoric again.

Source your ass, look at the census.

[Player Twelve]

Source your ass, look at the census.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...ant_population

2015. 27.7% foreign-born population in Australia.