The Washington Post: Why democrats harrassing/raping women should be tolerated

[Manabomb]

The hypocrisy of liberalism.

Gonna go with conservatives started it by being holier than thou with Bill Clinton.

They lost their ability to be hypocritical when Jeff Sessions leads the calls for impeachment for Clinton, but is very much okay with Trump and Moore. Republicans are scumbags that only choose their allies for their benefit and are hypocritical about their friendship choices. Even people like Cruz and McCain flip flop their entire political careers in the senate just to look like they are doing something.

Also, Fucking Bill O'reily. Just gonna stop conservatives right there.

[Deleted]

More like the perspective of the loony left.

Seeing that in perspective to the Roy Moore arguments, that must amount to figuratively Lovecraft levels of insanity.

[gilfanon]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.800f58f97061

It's already trending and becomes a narrative among MSM:

I'm so fucking bored of US conservatives deciding to become feminists when it suits them (while defunding women's healthcare programs), and then shouting "hypocrite" at liberals. Weinstein and Spacey and their ilk are being excommunicated from liberal circles and public life, while fire and brimstone conservatives are voting for predators and pedophiles as their President and Senator. Conservatives have precisely zero credibility on this issue, they're prepared to set aside religion, morality and common decency in the quest for power over other human being's bodies and lives. Come back and talk to me when Trump has denounced Moore, or when the GOP have impeached President Pussy-Grabber.

[Independent voter]

I’m a feminist. I study rape culture. And I don’t want Al Franken to resign.

Is the actual title of the "opinion piece" in the Washington Post. The Washington Post didn't come up with the opinion piece they just printed it.

There was this college girl who was raped and after looking at the system she decided that the police needed training so that they were more "sensitive" towards rape victims. Her rapist was finally convicted and sent to prison after like 7 years.

Al Franken took the girl's suggestions and wrote a law that would've made police officers get the special rape victim training. The law is currently working its way through the Senate.

Anyway she was on the radio and she said that she called Al Frankin's office and told them his name should be taken off the bill. She was kind of conflicted about it but removing Frankin was the best decision she thought.

So there is a lot of controversy out in the left wing feminist community.

[Flarelaine]

Looks at title of thread : "The Washington Post: Why democrats harrassing/raping women should be tolerated"
Looks at title of article : "I’m a feminist. I study rape culture. And I don’t want Al Franken to resign."
Reads article.
Shakes head and walks away while wondering why people, in this case a mmo-c poster (Vilendor), have to be so disingenuous when they want to discuss something.

Opened thread. Saw avatar. No surprise thereafter.

[LMuhlen]

This is just like that thread about allowing rich people to hunt endangered species so that their money can help protect the reserves... It's not ideal, but it's the best option available, apparently...

[Flarelaine]

Well, the OP is being disingenuous as shit, no doubt about that. Of course, looking at the country of origin, you can already tell the real meaning behind it all. Eastern Europeans sure do seem to love and try and stir up shit, making up scandals where none actually exist.

Can we please stay away from generalisations? Don't paint me with the same broad brush because I happen to hail from the same place. Sure, I can see where you come from, with his antics or Cybran's. But we are not a hivemind. Well, #notallofus, anyhow.

[zenkai]

The thing is... the left generally doesn't tolerate that activity. .

I wouldn't say that just because when they apologize, the lefties tend to say "oh he's sorry I forgive him".

[Deleted]

So.... exactly what the OP says?

I'm sorry what exactly am I missing here. It just seems like everyone is trying to make what the article is saying sound better than address what it actually says.

I think I got caught up in the notion that it somehow was supposed to be seen as an endorsement, and not a speculative argument, which is where I personally drew the line on approaching it.

[Najnaj]

The title of the post is an outright lie.

[Machismo]

Can we please stay away from generalisations? Don't paint me with the same broad brush because I happen to hail from the same place. Sure, I can see where you come from, with his antics or Cybran's. But we are not a hivemind. Well, #notallofus, anyhow.

I didn't say you were, but it does highlight a reason for his decision to post such BS thread.

[Flarelaine]

I wouldn't say that just because when they apologize, the lefties tend to say "oh he's sorry I forgive him".

I would love comparing that to GOP reactions to Moore's apology, but I can't find the latter.

[Kokolums]

This type of accusation was first made decades with Marion Barry. Barry was mayor of DC and got arrested and went to prison for cocaine. When he got out, the democrats voted him back in as mayor. The charge then was that his politics was important and crimes he committed were not. Bill Clinton committing perjury but getting to keep his job as president happened a few years after Barry.

Events like these lead cynical republicans to assume the democrats getting caught up in sex scandals from Weinstein to Franken will get a slap on the wrist but eventually be allowed to return to their jobs, while republicans caught in sex scandals will not.

I'm not sure how much damage can be done that hasn't been done though. Effectively 0% of republicans trust the press or the system these days. Can't go lower than 0.

[sarahtasher]

It's not complicated folks : Breitbart and co. snapped their fingers and gave the order to believe that anyone accusing Moore was a mix of liar/communist/feminist. Therefore, all the studs lambasting the press here are 100% sure Moore is innocent or that Moore, as a gun loving Republican who licks Trump, can be rewarded with the permission to put his penis where he wants .

If a Youtuber that a MAGAboy likes says something is true, a press conference hosted by Jesus himself telling ''this is fracking a lie'' would be mocked as ''as fake news KEK''

[Flarelaine]

I didn't say you were, but it does highlight a reason for his decision to post such BS thread.

And that gives me a reason to voice my opinion that the title is at least bad clickbait but more likely a fracking lie.

[dd614]

Tell me again these democrats aren't communists in disguise? "Our evil is for the common good" is some bolshevik people's revolution-level craziness.

[gilfanon]

So.... exactly what the OP says?

I'm sorry what exactly am I missing here. It just seems like everyone is trying to make what the article is saying sound better than address what it actually says.

Ok, I'll bite since you (I assume genuinely) don't seem to be getting the mismatch between the article and the OP's post.

OP's Post title: The Washington Post: Why democrats harrassing/raping women should be tolerated

Actual quotes from the Post article:
1) here’s what I would like to see him do. First, cooperate fully with an ethics investigation, as promised. Second, declare as soon as possible that he will not run again in 2020, so other Democratic candidates for that seat have plenty of time to prepare their campaigns. Third, go on a listening tour to learn what the women of Minnesota — Native American women, Somali women, Hmong women, Karen women, disabled women, queer women, working-class women — most want him to fight for in his remaining time, and go to the mat for their needs. Accept that some women will not want to talk to him at all, or will only want to yell at him for being a pig. Go anyway.
2) There are, of course, limits to this formula. If a Democratic official is credibly accused of a violent assault, or if their alleged abuses relate to or involve their work in politics, we should demand their resignation and encourage a full investigation.

So essentially, the Post article suggests that, in the interests of not allowing a Republican to take over from him in an act that would ultimately damage progressive women far more, Franken should be allowed to continue in his seat, provided he demonstrates his willingness to act as an advocate for women's issues, and as long as he listens, takes the censure he deserves, and steps aside to allow a Democrat challenger in 2020. Also, if he's found to have committed actual violent assault, it's game over full stop.

How is that exactly the same thing as the OP's suggestion that the WAPO suggesting Democrat rapists should be tolerated?

[urasim]

I’m a feminist. I study rape culture. And I don’t want Al Franken to resign.

Is the actual title of the "opinion piece" in the Washington Post. The Washington Post didn't come up with the opinion piece they just printed it.

Is it your opinion that businesses have no control or responsibility on what happens under their banners?

[Aggrophobic]

Tell me again these democrats aren't communists in disguise? "Our evil is for the common good" is some bolshevik people's revolution-level craziness.

That does not even make sense.

[sarahtasher]

Tell me again these democrats aren't communists in disguise? "Our evil is for the common good" is some bolshevik people's revolution-level craziness.

Not unlike squeaking to vote for Moore because he is going to cut taxes or to show those liburals how TOUGH you are.