The Washington Post: Why democrats harrassing/raping women should be tolerated

[zenkai]

I'm not changing the subject at all, I'm pointing out the clear double standard you seem to want to implement. You want to single out Hollywood, yet Trump, a man you shitposted and deflected for on many, many occasions is someone you support. You want to bash something in Hollywood that Trump is fucking famous for...

So, how is Trump and his supporters any different than Hollywood?

You shouldn't use the term double standard since it's obvious have no clue what you are talking about. Learn the difference between evidence and when someone admits their guilt, you can't compare the 2.

[Super Kami Dende]

"It's not a partisan issue... but look how bad the left is."

That was you.

I think anyone who supports party over principles is a disgusting person.

I think you seem to be the one making it far more of a Partisan issue. Because what I said was just plainly facts.

Right Sexual predators = Assholes.
Left Sexual Predators = Assholes that pretend to be on their victims Side.

Both assholes. At least when I see a Right-Wing predator I can basically think to myself "yeah that makes sense"

[Venant]

This thread is an example of how quickly the left flips its supposed 'values' in favor of whataboutism; and the people doing this have the same mindset as those, who if given absolute power like in the leftist regimes of the 20th century, would perpetually believe they were only one more mass execution away from attaining their utopian socialist paradise.

[Machismo]

You shouldn't use the term double standard since it's obvious have no clue what you are talking about. Learn the difference between evidence and when someone admits their guilt, you can't compare the 2.

We have Trump on audio and video. he also apologized...

Yet, his supporters have stood behind him through it all.

Those very same poeple (you) are now condemning liberals for doing the same... that's the double standard.

[Draco-Onis]

You shouldn't use the term double standard since it's obvious have no clue what you are talking about. Learn the difference between evidence and when someone admits their guilt, you can't compare the 2.

So as long as they don't apologize and admit guilt they are always innocent?

[Machismo]

I think you seem to be the one making it far more of a Partisan issue. Because what I said was just plainly facts.

Right Sexual predators = Assholes.
Left Sexual Predators = Assholes that pretend to be on their victims Side.

Both assholes. At least when I see a Right-Wing predator I can basically think to myself "yeah that makes sense"

I guess then you could say

Right=sexual predators who want to take away their freedoms.
Left=Sexual predators who pretend to be on their side.

Both sides are assholes when they overlook shitty behavior. I'm sure glad I didn't support a candidate like that for President.

[Daelak]

I think you seem to be the one making it far more of a Partisan issue. Because what I said was just plainly facts.

Right Sexual predators = Assholes.
Left Sexual Predators = Assholes that pretend to be on their victims Side.

Both assholes. At least when I see a Right-Wing predator I can basically think to myself "yeah that makes sense"

How are sexual predators pretending to be on the victim's side? The only side they are on, is the one to ensure that no one will believe them, due to their public persona, or using their power to silence them. You have already checked off the first box when it comes to believing the man in question, it's only a matter of time for you to appeal to their status as a reason why they wouldn't sexually assault someone.

[Machismo]

This thread is an example of how quickly the left flips its supposed 'values' in favor of whataboutism; and the people doing this have the same mindset as those, who if given absolute power like in the leftist regimes of the 20th century, would perpetually believe they were only one more mass execution away from attaining their utopian socialist paradise.

How are the left and the right any different? The right literally voted the same type of person into office as President.

[-Nurot]

Some have admitted guilt convicting themselves.

So when Trump reached a settlement with one of his victims, he essentially convicted himself then as well? If we're going to not count settlements, then apologies shouldn't count either. They could just be apologizing in hopes that it will go away quicker.

I don't believe that but the argument could be made. I personally think Trump is just as fucking guilty as the rest, but for some reason his supporters don't think the same rules apply.

[zenkai]

We have Trump on audio and video. he also apologized...

Yet, his supporters have stood behind him through it all.

Those very same poeple (you) are now condemning liberals for doing the same... that's the double standard.

And who did he grab by the pussy that sued him?

[zenkai]

So as long as they don't apologize and admit guilt they are always innocent?

As long as they don't have evidence against them or admit their own guilt, they are innocent in the eyes of the law.


I am going to tell everyone you sexual harassed me, so are you guilty of sexual harassment? Or are you innocent?

[Machismo]

And who did he grab by the pussy that sued him?

There have been multiple accusations by many women. He's also on audio admitting to barging into dressing rooms of pageant contestants in order to sneak a peek. One of his accusers was 15 at the time. Do you want the list of his accusers?

Thanks for proving my point for me.

[melodramocracy]

I don't think it stops at hollywood. Anywhere there is a power dynamic that has favored men (everywhere) there will be unreported sexual crimes.

It doesn't stop at Hollywood. Right now, the media frenzy on the subject is an exercise in schadenfreude, and little else, because who doesn't like seeing famous people taken down a notch? The reactions range from "good, he was a scumbag anyhow" to "Jeez, who could have seen *that* coming?" Either way, society views the fallout as quite entertaining.

The problem is this: If you truly want to change social behavior, making examples of noted individuals doesn't really cut it. Over the past decades, drunk driving rates were not lowered by watching stars get in trouble for it, they were lowered by common folk getting busted for it continually. And you can be sure that everyone currently cheering what's going on now will change their tune very quickly when they, or someone they know, gets fired from a job based on nothing other than a claim of improper behavior 10+ years ago.

Let's see how consistent folks are in their viewpoints then. In the meantime, I'm working on "Hands Up, Don't Accuse" t-shirts. They're going to sell like hotcakes.

[Machismo]

As long as they don't have evidence against them or admit their own guilt, they are innocent in the eyes of the law.


I am going to tell everyone you sexual harassed me, so are you guilty of sexual harassment? Or are you innocent?

Then you must think O.J. didn't kill two people.

[zenkai]

So when Trump reached a settlement with one of his victims, he essentially convicted himself then as well? If we're going to not count settlements, then apologies shouldn't count either. They could just be apologizing in hopes that it will go away quicker.

I don't believe that but the argument could be made. i personally think Trump is just as fucking guilty as the rest, but for some reason his supporters don't think the same rules apply.

If he settled a sexual harassment suit, then yes he is probably guilty of it, just not in the eyes of the law.

[Draco-Onis]

As long as they don't have evidence against them or admit their own guilt, they are innocent in the eyes of the law.


I am going to tell everyone you sexual harassed me, so are you guilty of sexual harassment? Or are you innocent?

These are not being judged in a court of law all we have is the word of the people involved, in the case of Trump and Roy Moore they have done a pretty shitty job at defending themselves. You don't have to admit guilt outright when you can't give an unequivocal denial without badly faltering.

[zenkai]

Then you must think O.J. didn't kill two people.

OJ is innocent in the eyes of the law, but we actually have physical evidence of him doing it, including DNA. Is there DNA evidence in these other cases?

[Machismo]

If he settled a sexual harassment suit, then yes he is probably guilty of it, just not in the eyes of the law.

Once again, this is not a courtroom.

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OJ is innocent in the eyes of the law, but we actually have physical evidence of him doing it, including DNA. Is there DNA evidence in these other cases?

Do you think O.J. killed two people?

We have audio and video evidence of Trump saying he did those things...

[zenkai]

These are not being judged in a court of law all we have is the word of the people involved, in the case of Trump and Roy Moore they have done a pretty shitty job at defending themselves. You don't have to admit guilt outright when you can't give an unequivocal denial without badly faltering.

How do you defend yourself of something that happened 40 years ago? Hell I can't even recall everyone I dated in the last 20 years.

[Daelak]

It doesn't stop at Hollywood. Right now, the media frenzy on the subject is an exercise in schadenfreude, and little else, because who doesn't like seeing famous people taken down a notch? The reactions range from "good, he was a scumbag anyhow" to "Jeez, who could have seen *that* coming?" Either way, society views the fallout as quite entertaining.

The problem is this: If you truly want to change social behavior, making examples of noted individuals doesn't really cut it. Over the past decades, drunk driving rates were not lowered by watching stars get in trouble for it, they were lowered by common folk getting busted for it continually. And you can be sure that everyone currently cheering what's going on now will change their tune very quickly when they, or someone they know, gets fired from a job based on nothing other than a claim of improper behavior 10+ years ago.

Let's see how consistent folks are in their viewpoints then. In the meantime, I'm working on "Hands Up, Don't Accuse" t-shirts. They're going to sell like hotcakes.

Lol great post. Those shirts would pair nicely with the MAGA hats.